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Monoxide speaks on Juggalos in facebook stream
February 11, 2018
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Brunch N Bake 02-07-2018

This is getting a lot of buzz. The relevant section is from 13:00 to 21:30. The bullet points are that he says "every" Juggalo turned their backs on Twiztid after they left Psychopathic, and that they had to start over from zero. He says this repeatedly and for 90% of the video, but eventually concedes that it wasn't "everyone," just the "majority". He says that Twiztid is held to a higher standard than everyone else.

I don't particularly buy into all this "start from zero" stuff when I personally saw thousands of Juggalos at concerts and the Gathering, and I damn sure know that those weren't all new fans. He--no surprise--takes NO kind of responsibility for the fallout, and really seems to see himself as a victim.

I personally kept up with Twiztid and MNE and bought their albums and went to their shows and shared their shit online and bought their merch and paid for VIPs and bought their new artists' albums for years, up until December 31, 2017, when they signed Young Wicked. It's my belief that the "majority" of Juggalos who have stopped supporting them did so because of their actions AFTER leaving Psychopathic, but he definitely thinks otherwise. Watch for yourself and judge.

February 11, 2018
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You mean December 31 2016/January 1 2017

February 11, 2018
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He claims we weren't asking "what happened" when they left. Not true the least bit. When Twiztid left we were asking for years "why did Twiztid leave Psychopathic? We never got full answers till ICP opened up about it. Plenty of Juggalos supported them when they left. It wasnt till time moved on some decided to drop support. 

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February 11, 2018
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said
You mean December 31 2016/January 1 2017  

Dude I fuckin tweeted the same typo and ended up deleting the tweet after I noticed it. Yes, 2016. Fml.

February 11, 2018
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thatjuggal91 said
He claims we weren't asking "what happened" when they left. Not true the least bit. When Twiztid left we were asking for years "why did Twiztid leave Psychopathic?

This. That annoyed the shit out of me. The way I remember it was that they had to tell people to STOP asking about it because that was all anyone wanted to talk about. Now he's saying that nobody ever asked? Yeah right.

February 11, 2018
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Think Georgie V. might be in they heads. Something don't seem right about the head majick ninjer there.

February 11, 2018
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This feels like a really bad business move on Monoxide's part. In my observation, Twiztid did not even come close to having to start "from zero". Sure, some Juggalos stopped fucking with them simply because they left Psychopathic, but not THAT many. If they continue to put out good shit (which Continuous Evilution was NOT) there will be no lack of Juggalo support. But then seeing Monoxide bitching about lack of Juggalo support or whatever, that's a really good way to be unappreciative of your fans and have some people stop supporting just because of that video. 

February 11, 2018
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Who gives a shit?? Either you like the music, the merch designs, the tours, the videos, from either MNE or psy or you do not like those things. Case closed move on get a life. It’s just regular people making music. Humans make mistakes, say things in the moment, get butt hurt, catch feelings etc. 

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February 11, 2018
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chops said
Who gives a shit?? Either you like the music, the merch designs, the tours, the videos, from either MNE or psy or you do not like those things. Case closed move on get a life. It’s just regular people making music. Humans make mistakes, say things in the moment, get butt hurt, catch feelings etc.   

Yeah well im human too watching other humans.

And even if i did like their media i wouldnt buy cuz they are acting like shitty humans duuuuuhh

And all that is a lie he says.

I personally on tbis forum pushed GMO before he started trying to act hella loud and stupid and try and do ahit like bang on jumpsteady (not gang bang. Punk em and stuff its how i say it, moving on)

Made tbreads gor the little guy.

As soon as they moved to they own lable this whole forum for the most part was like "fucl the beef!"

I got a new nightmare and the darkness.

I even pushed that fuckin vengeance album by young wicked!!!

Untill a day or two later shit came to the surface.

ITS ALL SAVED ON THE FORUMS PUTO! U FCKED UP AY!!!!

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February 11, 2018
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MitchellKing said
I personally kept up with Twiztid and MNE and bought their albums and went to their shows and shared their shit online and bought their merch and paid for VIPs and bought their new artists' albums for years, up until December 31, 2016, when they signed Young Wicked.

Why that day in particular?  Nobody knew any details about Young Wicked's departure or MNE signing at the point.

February 11, 2018
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chops said
Who gives a shit?? Either you like the music, the merch designs, the tours, the videos, from either MNE or psy or you do not like those things. Case closed move on get a life. It’s just regular people making music. Humans make mistakes, say things in the moment, get butt hurt, catch feelings etc.   

This.

February 11, 2018
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It's also funny how on previous brunch n bakes whenever somebody asked or complained about the beef, Mono laughed it off and said stuff like "it's not that serious, guys! you are making such a big deal out of this! it is not that serious." and now he's like "you guys think it's tough on you? you have no idea how hard it is for us!!" well.. which is it?

February 11, 2018
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Meh, Mono maybe could've phrased what he said a bit differently, but he's human and it came out the way it came out. I take it all with a grain of salt.

As far as the majority of juggalos turning their back on Twiztid, honestly, all they have to do is read 90% of the comments on every Twiztid article on the front page of this site and he'd be able to form that opinion. And that's just a small sample size. 

Whatever, they're doing their thing and excelling. Props to Twiztid.

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February 11, 2018
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Carnivalkilla44 said
Meh, Mono maybe could've phrased what he said a bit differently, but he's human and it came out the way it came out. I take it all with a grain of salt.

As far as the majority of juggalos turning their back on Twiztid, honestly, all they have to do is read 90% of the comments on every Twiztid article on the front page of this site and he'd be able to form that opinion. And that's just a small sample size. 

Whatever, they're doing their thing and excelling. Props to Twiztid.  

That doesnt really makes sense to me. U shouldn't get what u think is the  general consensus of how juggalos feel about u off just the Internet. Like if they dont know ppl go off the chain. If they did that, that means both PSY and MNE are winning and also dead or some nonsense.

Like i said ppl on here i know for sure would come out and just be like "naaaaw".

And like ppl cant pretened ppl like me aint out there.

I fucked with Twiztid and MNE until they started doing some hoe shit.

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February 11, 2018
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Carnivalkilla44 said      
... 90% of the comments on every Twiztid article on the front page of this site      
... And that's just a small sample size.       

very small.  way too small, when you consider that those comments are basicly dropped by the same eight or ten names.  

  

what mono oughtta be readin, is the forum.  where many a ninja have broken down how they feel, in detail, and have so done the whole time.  

then, maybe he wouldnt be so confused.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

February 11, 2018
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But also i dont want them to fail and i wish i could enjoy some music.

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February 11, 2018
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said 

Why that day in particular?  Nobody knew any details about Young Wicked's departure or MNE signing at the point.  

It struck me as fucked up as soon as I saw the news. Even without knowing the details, I could do the "something fucked up is going on here" math. Signing Boondox was already a red flag, so signing YW seemed really suspicious.

I did check out Continuous Evilution but I didn't buy a hard copy like I had all the previous Twiztid stuff. Not sure if I'll check out the next Twiztid album. Hasn't come up yet.

February 11, 2018
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bayAreaShaman said

That doesnt really makes sense to me. U shouldn't get what u think is the  general consensus of how juggalos feel about u off just the Internet. 

I actually think the internet is a great way to get a general consensus about how juggalos feel. I mean, the internet is a pretty huge platform.

MitchellKing said

Bonesaw Wizardstick said 

Why that day in particular?  Nobody knew any details about Young Wicked's departure or MNE signing at the point.  

It struck me as fucked up as soon as I saw the news. Even without knowing the details, I could do the "something fucked up is going on here" math. Signing Boondox was already a red flag, so signing YW seemed really suspicious.

To me it was more suspicious that two artists that were getting big pushes from the label they were previously on could not be on said label anymore.

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February 11, 2018
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bayAreaShaman said
That doesnt really makes sense to me. U shouldn't get what u think is the  general consensus of how juggalos feel about u off just the Internet. 

I actually think the internet is a great way to get a general consensus about how juggalos feel. I mean, the internet is a pretty huge platform.

  

Yeah i guess..like how do u say it..if going into like facebook and twitter to with predisposed notions and like wanying to find something u can find it, either way it gos. So I dont know if i explained that right. Also u can talk to juggalos. But like they are at ur show so i dunno.

But yeah like scruffy said they should go on the forum. U can see all of it. 

Im not gonna baby the man. 

I dunno they did it to themselves

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February 11, 2018
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Yep, Twiztid had to start from zero.

Except for the name recognition and image given to them by J.

Except for the masters J gave them.

Except for the capitol to sign multiple artists.

Except for all of the industry know-how they gained from years at Psychopathic.

Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. If they had to start from zero they would've had no Merch sales, no album sales, and no ticket sales after leaving. This sounds like Twiztid trying to further distance themselves from the Juggalo culture.

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