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Psyral Infection said
Cheshyr said
... I've learned long ago that in most cases, there's no talking to a republican about issues that may involve them making one dollar less if it meant feeding the homeless or righting racial wrongs. That is not their concern. Their concern is money and making sure they don't have to give anything away to anybody. All this despite their own was made on the backs of those that sacrificed everything so that the children of their bosses/mastas could enjoy the smugness given them by all the money and soul searching their grandpas didn't have to. This country was built by slaves, ya know? Think of the SAVINGS!...
This is not all Republicans. Some Republicans are not Republican because of money. It is a political system and not an economic system. While politics do play into economics in our current environment, the true Republican ideal has nothing to do with economics but rather citizen sovereignty.
In line with what some have already stated, left leaning media likes to present Republicans as money hungry while right leaning media shows them as proponents for individual freedoms. These are not the only things the two sides show, just one of the many. And the same holds true for the portrayal of Democrats by both sides of the media. In actuality, You will be hard pressed to find any articles from a particular side of the media that shows anything positive about the other side.
I am not rich at all. In fact I work all year just to have enough money to make it to the next Gathering. When I leave the Gathering, I am flat broke, every time, and ready to start work again just to make it to the next Gathering. There are a lot of poor Republicans who care less about money but you won't see that portrayed in any news articles or shows because it is just not what viewers want to see.
Cheshyr said
... Which makes your obvious intelligence seem to go to waste when it comes to dealing with EVERYTHING ELSE about Donald Trump. What *I am reading is that it really doesn't matter to you that the opponent is Hillary beyond the fact that she is a democrat and you are republican. You weren't gonna vote for anything else anyway so what difference does Clinton's supposed "corruption" make when in the grand scheme of things you weren't gonna vote that way anyway?You say you don't vote... and that's... your right. But if you vote for the "republican" in THIS race, YOU ARE VOTING FOR A RACIST. There are no if ands or buts about it and any attempt to try to boil THAT down into something else is whitewashing and just... willful ignorance. Republicans have been known to be the party for racists for MANY a year but they usually keep it locked away and cloaked in the words of "soft racism".... calling you a nigger to your face without actually using those exact words... but Donald. He may not use direct racial epithets but he sure as hell can figure out how to call minorities and the poor (ie anyone that can't afford to live in a Manhattan high rise) worthless pieces of shit while pretending to hold the elevator door. ...
The corruption accusations where an ad hominem attack. Just showing what media outlets show (At least the right wing one I use) And again, the same ad hominem attacks occur from the other side.
It is not about voting for a racist. Any racist policies he may try to enact will be shot down by our country's checks and balances. This is about voting for a political ideology. I live in a very Republican state and in an area that is considered the most culturally diverse area in Texas where the most recent census showed only 11.1% white. These non-white Republicans are not voting for his racist outlooks, most of them are voting, as I would, to do anything possible from having a Democrat as president for another 4 years. And these are not rich people either. Alief (the city I live in) is known as "an impoverished, multicultural enclave." Again, it is about the true ideological differences in the various parties, not about the static and noise that we see everyday from the news. The ideological differences are not about race, money, helping the poor or oppressed, immigration, abortion rights, or the countless other issues that people ascribe to the parties. The differences have to do with how the government should be run at it's core. I will always vote for the ideology of what strengthen the foundation of the Constitutional Republic. Democratism is an ideology of federalistic expansion which is an idea very opposed to Republicanism. This is about core government paradigms (defined as how something should work; an ideal instance)
Cheshyr said
...But if you say you don't usually vote, I would encourage you to NOT vote again in this one either. Because while I can may be able to let your republicanism slide (haha), after this election, I'm gonna have a real crisis of conscious dealing with the knowledge of someone having willingly cast their vote for a reputed racist, misogynist, tax cheating, war dodging bigot....If it looks like Clinton may have a chance in Texas, I will definitely vote for Trump to prevent any more spread of Democratism. I cannot stress how fundamental an idea it is for me that the concept of the Republic is preserved. A vote for a Democrat or even not voting against a Democrat that may win any political seat or electoral points is something I can never do. I don't think anything will ever change this in me.
Let me try to put this into an "All Things Being Equal" framing...
Let's just concede each other's points regarding anything to do with the "eligibility" of who we have to vote for, anything to do with party affiliations or historical context (both future and past tense)... "With all things being equal..." ....
You will forever have actually voted for a racist and/or his "mechanisms" for fostering such ideals.
THAT... is what your vote will mean to ME.
You don't gotta justify anything to ME. There's LAWS that say so. You can say yer gonna vote for whoever the fuck you want and not have to prove anything to anyone as to who you ACTUALLY voted for...
Now, I'm not gonna project out what deeper meaning *I may read into that or for anyone else in the country, but if asked and answered honestly, you will have to reply that, "I voted for Donald Trump". For whatever you may feel that that may mean to YOU, it will mean a great many MORE things to a LOT MORE people, win or lose. As I've said, I know you to be a level, informed individual as opposed to the caricature of what the average Trump supporter is and are quite involved in a culture that abhors such things AS racism and class discrimination, (which makes your potential decision all the more confusing); but to anyone else not as informed in your personals, you will have become part of the lump that helped give a "rise to power" of a host of people that did not deserve your support in the form of the (supposedly) most sacrosanct thing Americans have ever fought and died for: your vote.
What's more, is the fact that you have stated that you DON'T/haven't voted AT ALL in a while ... but THIS TIME... given all available options... you're gonna go out of your way (this time) and vote for a racist...?!?
It's the same reason why the GOP has decided to abandon their push for Trump and focus on the "other elections" because anyone currently in a seated position that put their support behind Donald is surely not going to be re-elected for the same reason as I'm saying you will have put your lot into: you voted for a racist. You gave your complicit approval of whatever it was he had to say despite your own person self-interests (ya know, what Republicans have conned people into doing for years?).
It's your soul, homie. You know best how to bruise it.
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@cheshyr , If racism is the main issue then I should also not vote for a racist like Hillary Clinton.
- In 1974, after Bill Clinton lost his bid for a Senate seat, Hillary lashed out at campaign manager Paul Fray calling him a "fucking Jew bastard!"
- While serving in the US Senate, Hillary disparaged a civil rights icon and demeaned all people from India. "I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station?"
- In 2005 Hillary said, "I am adamantly against illegal immigrants." She also, as a Senator, voted to construct a wall between the US and Mexico. Considering the main "proof" of Trump’s racism is that he opposes illegal immigration and wants to build a wall, isn’t it odd that Hillary gets off for having said the same thing?
- During the 2008 democratic primaries Hillary Clinton’s campaign started the "birther" rumors, questioning Obama’s US citizenship. They even circulated the now famous picture of Obama in full Muslim garb. Somehow Trump’s campaign to get Obama to release his birth certificate is racist, but Hillary’s role in starting the birther movement is not.
- In November of 2015, Hillary called people in this country illegally "illegal aliens." Trump is a racist when he says "illegal aliens," why isn’t Hillary?
- In April of this year, Hillary joined NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio on stage at a democratic fundraiser and joked about how lazy black people are. They made reference to "colored people’s time" which is a super-racist way of saying black people are chronically tardy and lethargic.
- Shortly after announcing her candidacy, Hillary said "all lives matter" in a black church. I don’t think this one is racist, but leftists, and black activists do. Plus as is the case with most of this stuff, if Trump had said it liberals would freak the hell out.
And some links for this for the above stuff:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jul/18/uselections2000.usa
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07.....w-bastard/
http://www.economist.com/node/6392
http://www.sonic.net/~aman/clintons.html
http://downtrend.com/71superb/.....r-activist
http://www.investors.com/polit.....gainst-it/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....inton.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2015/01/29/the-moment-obama-knew-he-would-beat-hillary-clinton-for-the-2008-nomination/?utm_term=.6aedb08ffe01
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mor.....-with-her/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/25/clinton-heckled-by-black-lives-matter-activist/
http://www.inquisitr.com/29956.....community/
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/m.....s-n1995826
http://www.ontheissues.org/201.....ration.htm
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05.....nts-audio/
http://downtrend.com/71superb/.....red-people
I got tired of googling for all the links so I stopped but there are many more.
6:42 pm
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Psyral Infection said
@cheshyr , If racism is the main issue then I should also not vote for a racist like Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton is horribly racist. I don't think the CP Time thing that someone else said is a good enough reason to not vote for her, but she called black people super predators while promoting the idea that black people are inherently more violent than white people.
"They are often the kinds of kids that are called 'super-predators,' " Clinton said in 1996, at the height of anxiety during her husband's administration about high rates of crime and violence. "No conscience, no empathy, we can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel."
Hillary has been on the wrong side of social issues for her entire career.
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PsyralIf you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter
2:47 am
October 30, 2013
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NOW I think yer just trying to troll me republican style...
You can't POSSIBLY be serious with that list? Including YOU Noah (even though I know your valence for what you consider "offensive" is pretty wide).
That is the most touchy-est shit ever. I don't need to Google most of that because I've seen it already... IN CONTEXT. Some of that was was meant as jokes amongst "like company" that apparently didn't play too well (to those with hyper-reactive disorders).
This bullshit "super predators" comment was in reference to GANG MEMBERS. At no time did she implicitly call all black people super predators. Come off it with that shit...
Dude, yer making me think I gave you too much credit if after all your eloquent philosophizing that you REALLY think that using the phrase "illegal aliens" is ANYWHERE near the shit that comes out of Trump's mouth and what he HAS DONE his whole life. Fuck, *I say "illegal alien" too... maybe because that was what they were referred to until about 10years ago. Kinda like nowadays I'm HEAVY and not FAT anymore... you can change the word to make someone feel better but it doesn't mean they still can't fit in the chair. Shit, I'll even go farther and say I'm totally for more border security and I've SEEN how border jumpers think it's a big fuckin' game! None of that has anything to do with RACE (as if what country you were jumping a fence from had anything to do with RACE).
I don't think anyone actually gives a shit about Trump saying "illegal alien" (or at least I've never heard of anyone spending hours of time talking about it)... it's the whole rapist and drug dealer thing... Maybe? Or it's all the OTHER shit? Ya think? You know the list. That is REAL racism not this inferred over-hyped, faux pas, BULLSHIT being laid up on the Clinton's as if black people didn't help put Bill in office in the first place.
Gnaw, man. I'm tappin' out on this. If you really think that that list of bullshit is a valid and factual IN CONTEXT argument against the non-republican candidate you had no intention of voting for because of party lines.... I got nothing left but to ... smh ... If you really think that shit comes anywhere close to what Trump has both ACTUALLY DONE and what he has ACTUALLY SAID and MEANT and the kinds of "people" THOSE THINGS have suddenly motivated in this country... I got nothin'.
These weak ass, tit-fer-tat, straw man, "death of a thousand cuts" angles of debate and strategy makes me wish someone would finally say the same thing all our mothers have at one point no doubt said to all of us, "I'm not talking about the OTHER kids, I'm talking about YOU!"
Apparently, if "all things being even"... you HONESTLY think that Hillary's "racism" equates Trump's.... and I got nuthin' for that.
And for Noah to chime in, I got the two polarities workin'.
On one side, there's a person who thinks a mere inference is enough to turn a college campus into a bigoted rapefest.
And on the other, a person who doesn't think the phrase, "One Of The Good Ones" to be a Freudian indicator of anything noteworthy.
Vote how you want to for whatever reason you want to and don't feel like you gotta tell anyone anything about it... Voting for Trump doesn't make YOU a racist... it just means that you voted FOR one. I'm not saying that that's gonna make me regard you any LESS, but I'm also NOT saying I wouldn't hold it against you later in some unknowable context. That's where this election is at.
smh
"I'm tryin' to save you from yourself but you gotta stop lettin' your Momma dress you!" - Phreak (Hackers 1995)
ps the American History X clip was in reference to Cameron explaining how the internet has changed their plans and how the whole shaved head thing is no longer how they do things... now they wear suits.
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@cheshyr , that was just me doing exactly what @demonicswagger said was pointless for me to do. :P
To me, the Hillary thing isn't really about racial issues but with her history in business dealings and her control (or more accurately, her campaign's control) of the media.
News reporters getting fired for posting negative comments about her but the negative comments about Trump are allowed. Having certain newspapers append all articles about Trump with "Editor’s note: Donald Trump is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist, birther and bully who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S." while articles about her have no appending notes. Blocking Gary Byrne, a former Clinton secret service agent, from promoting his new book on any of the broadcast networks. Having Twitter and Facebook prevent negative hashtags and stories from trending (And this has been proven many times where an anti-Hillary tag starts trending and gets pretty high on the list then vanishes forever) while anti-Trump stories and hashtags are not censored. Censorship in any context, even if it is censoring negative speech is horrible.
Her business dealings and how she has used them even as Secretary of State are one of the main reasons why her trustworthiness ratings continue to fall. Depending on what source you use, the percentage of people polled who do not trust her varies but most of them hover around 50%. I can't wait for the next several strategically scheduled WikiLeaks releases. They should continue to lower her ratings. Even though, without knowing what the documents are yet, her campaign is already saying that they will be altered documents meant specifically to discredit her with false information. I personally hope it ends her entire political and business career.
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Cheshyr said
...smh"I'm tryin' to save you from yourself but you gotta stop lettin' your Momma dress you!" - Phreak (Hackers 1995)
If you wanna play the racism game, here's footage of Hillary gushing about a former Klan leader and calling him her mentor. If you wanna play the humanism game, who would be better leaders for the country now? Progressive people who promote individual liberties, or regressive people who try to save you from yourself? Or none of the above? Fuck a nanny state (and nannies who warn you about other nannies dressing you.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4wo9nqWrwE
YouTube Video Hillary Clinton calls former KKK Leader her 'mentor and friend' (Robert Byrd)
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So you guys said all the bad things about Hillary and Trump, but what about the good things? Nobody ever has anything good to say about either. Think on that.
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4:36 pm
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@psyral-infectionNOW I think yer just trying to troll me republican style...
You can't POSSIBLY be serious with that list? Including YOU Noah (even though I know your valence for what you consider "offensive" is pretty wide).
That is the most touchy-est shit ever. I don't need to Google most of that because I've seen it already... IN CONTEXT. Some of that was was meant as jokes amongst "like company" that apparently didn't play too well (to those with hyper-reactive disorders).
This bullshit "super predators" comment was in reference to GANG MEMBERS. At no time did she implicitly call all black people super predators. Come off it with that shit...
Dude, yer making me think I gave you too much credit if after all your eloquent philosophizing that you REALLY think that using the phrase "illegal aliens" is ANYWHERE near the shit that comes out of Trump's mouth and what he HAS DONE his whole life. Fuck, *I say "illegal alien" too... maybe because that was what they were referred to until about 10years ago. Kinda like nowadays I'm HEAVY and not FAT anymore... you can change the word to make someone feel better but it doesn't mean they still can't fit in the chair. Shit, I'll even go farther and say I'm totally for more border security and I've SEEN how border jumpers think it's a big fuckin' game! None of that has anything to do with RACE (as if what country you were jumping a fence from had anything to do with RACE).
I don't think anyone actually gives a shit about Trump saying "illegal alien" (or at least I've never heard of anyone spending hours of time talking about it)... it's the whole rapist and drug dealer thing... Maybe? Or it's all the OTHER shit? Ya think? You know the list. That is REAL racism not this inferred over-hyped, faux pas, BULLSHIT being laid up on the Clinton's as if black people didn't help put Bill in office in the first place.
Gnaw, man. I'm tappin' out on this. If you really think that that list of bullshit is a valid and factual IN CONTEXT argument against the non-republican candidate you had no intention of voting for because of party lines.... I got nothing left but to ... smh ... If you really think that shit comes anywhere close to what Trump has both ACTUALLY DONE and what he has ACTUALLY SAID and MEANT and the kinds of "people" THOSE THINGS have suddenly motivated in this country... I got nothin'.
These weak ass, tit-fer-tat, straw man, "death of a thousand cuts" angles of debate and strategy makes me wish someone would finally say the same thing all our mothers have at one point no doubt said to all of us, "I'm not talking about the OTHER kids, I'm talking about YOU!"
Apparently, if "all things being even"... you HONESTLY think that Hillary's "racism" equates Trump's.... and I got nuthin' for that.
And for Noah to chime in, I got the two polarities workin'.
On one side, there's a person who thinks a mere inference is enough to turn a college campus into a bigoted rapefest.
And on the other, a person who doesn't think the phrase, "One Of The Good Ones" to be a Freudian indicator of anything noteworthy.
The super predators comment was about gang members but it relied on very old racist stereotypes and directly led to the passing of practices which resulted in the over policing of black communities and the disproportionate numbers of people of color in prison. Also, lets not pretend that the idea that Obama was a muslim immigrant didn't come up when he was losing in the primaries to Hillary Clinton. The racist position that Donald Trump promoted for years started, not when republicans were trying to beat him but when Hillary was. There is no evidence that it came from the Hillary Clinton campaign, but the timing is telling. Though it's not like Republicans didn't run with it at full speed.
I do have a problem with Donald Trump implying that immigrants from mexico bring more violent crime. It's not true and it's racist. But his history of housing practices are worse.
To be ultra clear though: I don't think we've ever had a president that didn't have some level of racism involved in their careers. Even Obama has promoted respectability politics and has attempted to appease white racist assholes by hedging (though, tbh he didn't have much choice).
I don't really know what you mean by the part I italicized.
As for Krunk's post: Robert Byrd was a young man who joined the KKK, then left after a few years. He then spent a career working against racial prejudice and had described his time with the KKK as unconscionable. He worked so hard to undo any damage his racism had caused that he scored great numbers from black activist groups who rated his political career / voting record. That he was once, a very long time ago (over 50 years ago), a member of the KKK is only demonstrative of how people can change over time.
If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter
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Here's an informative article about Byrd. I'm all for not defining someone by their past. Wonder if leftists would be as forgiving if Trump's mentor used to be an Exalted Cyclops of the Klan.
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King Lucem Ferre said
So you guys said all the bad things about Hillary and Trump, but what about the good things? Nobody ever has anything good to say about either. Think on that.
@lucem-ferre You are correct. It is easier to spit venom then it is to spit honey.
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krunkazphuk said
Here's an informative article about Byrd. I'm all for not defining someone by their past. Wonder if leftists would be as forgiving if Trump's mentor used to be an Exalted Cyclops of the Klan.
If he was currently getting a 100% from the NAACP, sure.
If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter
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Psyral Infection said
@lucem-ferre You are correct. It is easier to spit venom then it is to spit honey.
That has more to do with your votes going towards spite rather than anything productive.
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In a parallel universe, this is actually a documentary starring Donald Trump that airs every Christmas like Charles Dickens wrote it n'shit...
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This is a bit 
but here is a little something in a Jeff Foxworthy style:
If plastic water bottles are okay, but plastic bags are banned, — you might live in a nation (state) that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you have to get your parents' permission to go on a field trip or to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but not to vote for who runs the government — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If, in the nation's largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make you fat — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If an 80-year-old woman who is confined to a wheelchair or a three-year-old girl can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman in a burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his teacher is "cute" but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more government regulation and intrusion while not working is rewarded with Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free cell phones — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a wall-sized do-it-all plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
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And one more thing:
If you cross the border illegally in most countries, you are subject to legal action and deportation.
If you cross the U.S. border illegally you get ... A job, a drivers license, social security card, welfare, food stamps, credit cards, subsidized rent or a loan to buy a house, free education, free health care, a lobbyist in Washington, billions of dollars worth of public documents printed in your own language, the right to carry your country's flag while you protest that you don't get enough respect and, in many instances, you can vote.
The last post and this one I just copy-pasted from something I saw online that I thought may have interest or help spur a debate.
I am not claiming to believe these things, but then again, I am not claiming not to. Circumstances being as they are, I doubt either admission would be of any benefit.
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A lot of it is a bit over simplified and exaggerated.
I'd say that if you live in a nation where instead of voting for the candidate you want, you vote for a candidate you hate in spite of the other candidate you hate - you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but filled with idiots.
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King Lucem Ferre said
A lot of it is a bit over simplified and exaggerated.
I'd say that if you live in a nation where instead of voting for the candidate you want, you vote for a candidate you hate in spite of the other candidate you hate - you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but filled with idiots.
Yes, definitely over simplified and exaggerated. Most, if not all, of it is.
What do you do when you dislike all candidates? Not vote? Or vote for the one that you dislike the least? Or some other option?
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if you cant get behind anybody on the ballot [theres generally always more than two], just put it down as an abstention.
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For anyone who wants to "live free and escape the clutches of the" American idiots, or of the "state and central banks," this annual anarchist conference may be for you.
It's "4 days of presentations, debates and panels from the leading minds in liberty. Topics include Bitcoin, entrepreneurship, expatriation, self-discovery, persuasion strategies, economics, ethics, war, parenting, and alternatives to the state. Enjoy breathtaking views of Acapulco Bay from our rooftop conference room, and long nights of drinking and dining beachside while mingling with like-minded anarchocapitalists from all over the world."
Seems even anarchy is a commodity in a capitalist system. And beware the hot sauce, non-bottled water, and ice, as Mexico is known to challenge the intestinal fortitude of tourists (even of my mother-in-law who is of Mexican descent.)
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