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April 2, 2015
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Patience young padawan, it is happening now but the shit takes time. We will make the blind see and the deaf hear. We will be able to 3D print organs and even houses. They(idk who they are) found a way to encode shakespears work in DNA. One day we may have a chip that gives us access to all the collective knowledge of humanity. We will be able to go into the brain and fix mental health issues. It goes on and on.

 

That is, if we dont destroy ourselves first in the process….

April 2, 2015
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@slumerican502 , A futurist and an optimist!

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April 2, 2015
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Slumerican502 said

 

That is, if we dont destroy ourselves first in the process….

This is why I practice shooting terminators at least weekly…they are far scarier then some bitch ass zombies….

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April 2, 2015
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Slumerican502 said
Patience young padawan, it is happening now but the shit takes time. We will make the blind see and the deaf hear. We will be able to 3D print organs and even houses. They(idk who they are) found a way to encode shakespears work in DNA. One day we may have a chip that gives us access to all the collective knowledge of humanity. We will be able to go into the brain and fix mental health issues. It goes on and on.

 

That is, if we dont destroy ourselves first in the process….

You do all realize that the computer age was ushered in when a time ship from the 29th century crashed off the east coast of California, after accidentally becoming caught in its own paradox involving a 24th century star ship it intended to destroy to stop the destruction of the future.  The reason we haven’t progressed further then we are now is our puny 20th century brains cant wrap our heads around tech that much more advanced then our own.

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April 2, 2015
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Now I know who to blame those USB camera dildos on. Yes, they exist, but I’d much rather have a flying car than a uterus selfie.

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April 2, 2015
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the future is not now, until we get flying cars.  period.  

or lightsabers.  

  

hoverboards, artificially intelligent personal assistant devices, or cities on the moon would be nice, but wont cut it.  not without flying cars.  

or lightsabers.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 3, 2015
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Psyral Infection said
Yeah, sorry about that. I’m a bit of an anti-apple person. Probably to the point of being irrational about it. It most likely biases my view on everything related to apple so that I only see the negative things and my mind automatically ignores the positive aspects, if there are any. It’s not a very evolved mindset, but oh well. I like my irrational hatred. It makes me feel all tingly inside.

I’m pretty anti-apple for a lot of the same reasons you stated, and being a Linux user contributes to it as well.

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April 3, 2015
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If Apple was just another company that made products, I wouldn’t mind them. I mean, I wouldn’t use their product because I don’t want a product that treats me like I might chew my hand off at any moment (No, no, why would such a simpleton need BIOS? Here, let us handle that for you) but I certainly wouldn’t have any qualms with the company on a whole, or at least, any more than I do with any other company. The problem is that they treat their products like more than what it is. You’re not buying a phone, you’re buying a way of life, you’re buying the future, you’re buying Apple. Some of the fault lies in the hands of their customers but that’s only because the company has pushed them to think that way. 

April 3, 2015
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Not a fan of iCult. Marge Simpson’s quote “We can’t afford to shop at any store that has a philosophy” makes sense to me.

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April 3, 2015
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i was an enormous apple booster in the 80s/90s.  

after i pod brought em back from the dead, though, there has been an obvious metamorphosis into…  pretty much whats being described.  

seriously, though, thats how the business world works.  apple is a huge company acting like a huge company, just like every other huge company.  

 

like no other electronics makers do any lifestyle marteking, or sumn.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 3, 2015
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Had an apple computer years ago and have used them for work, so by certain standards I’m an iConsumer. Any corporation cofounded by “The Wonderful Wizard of Woz” better have some magical suicide prevention nets outside of their sweatshops.

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April 3, 2015
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I dislike that Apples are proprietary. If I want to program for a Mac or an iPhone, I have to do it with an Apple computer. If I want to program for anything else (Linux, PC, Android, Windows Phone, Blackberry) I can do it on a PC. It’s all open. I am currently programming an app and with the same code, unmodified, I can compile it to every system except iPhone and Mac. And with the marketshare of iOS and MacOS below 20%, why would I want to program for it anymore. Like most programmers on the programming forums I visit, it’s just not worth it to dedicate time resources to program for apple any more when everything else is so simple. Code once for everything that is not apple and forget about the people still hanging on to the apple stuff. In many time allocation analysis plans, the 80/20 rule applies. Cater to everything in the eighty percentile bracket.

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April 3, 2015
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
 I think it’s pretty presumptuous of people that ARENT Apple consumers to say what Apple consumers do or do not believe.

That’s part of the problem though, I shouldn’t know the collective mentality of their customers (pertaining to Apple of course) and yet, I do. I can’t fault their customers wholly, because a lot of their marketing is based around that very stereotype minus the negative connotations but there isn’t a large Apple fan base nay-saying those stereotypes either. That’s not presumption, that’s just paying attention.

 And yes you can upgrade an Apple computer. 

Upgrading and having control over it are two different things. The idea that if I buy something, I won’t be able to access any part of it I want, is ridiculous. 

scruffy said

like no other electronics makers do any lifestyle marteking, or sumn.  

I would say the difference is that most companies put the marketing second to the product. With Apple is seems to be the other way around.

April 3, 2015
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what it is, is that apple is better at it.  thats why it sticks in your mind.  

  

this is all coke v pepsi, at best.  its not a sociological phenomenon, is what im sayin.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 3, 2015
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LuckyNumbrXIII said  
Either way, don’t assume you know the consumer by looking at the company’s marketing strategy.  That’s ludicrous.    

why, imagine if such a thing happened to we juggalos…  

   

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 3, 2015
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Oh come on, @luckynumbrxiii , let me have my irrational hate and live in my anti-apple fantasy. ;)

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April 3, 2015
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I don’t think all Apple customers are a cult or any other nonsense like that but I don’t think it’s as simple as coke vs pepsi either. Microsoft (I acknowledge others but you know…sake of argument and shit) vs Apple really does present two different products that represent two different mentalities.

Apple tends to shun the idea that you should look behind the curtain. You don’t need to know who Steve Jobs really was, you don’t need to alter your computer, you don’t need to make third party apps, etc. etc. Just let us take care of it all. Microsoft basically dumps it all on your lap and tells you to figure it out but as as a result, you get exactly want you want. Sure they’re both just selling you gadgets and technological debris but it’s two different takes on what that means or should mean in the future. No matter how hard Coke/Pepsi try to present themselves as being different, they’re both just soda companies that want to sell you soda any way that they can. 

April 3, 2015
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CellE2057 said
Apple tends to shun the idea that you should look behind the curtain. You don’t need to know who Steve Jobs really was, 
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this shows me that its just your personal thing.  

how many products do you refuse to purchase until youre satisfied with the understanding you have of the company founder as a person?  

  

coke v pepsi.  at best.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

April 3, 2015
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I’m the type that needs to be able to alter my computer down to the OS. I need complete access to everything and yes, sometimes I fuck shit up but a simple reformat and reinstall can fix almost anything I may break. The only exception may be overclocking the processor through some bios tweaking and burning out a processor core. But even that is a simple replace. Trial by fire. The fastest way to learn computers.

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April 3, 2015
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LuckyNumbrXIII said

I love the feeling that no matter what I do to my computer, if I’m about to fuck something up, a warning pops up and says, “This is gonna fuck your shit up bad.  Type your password to proceed.”

Which is absolutely fine. My point is that I disagree with that policy, and as a result don’t buy Apple products. Admittedly, I elaborated a whole fucking lot on that point lol, but that was and is my point.

scruffy said

how many products do you refuse to purchase until youre satisfied with the understanding you have of the company founder as a person?  

coke v pepsi.  at best.  

You’re taking a small example and turning it into my whole point, man. I don’t care what the founder of a company does. If I did that I wouldn’t buy shit. The idea that they’re so lock and key on who that guy was, was used as an example of how Apple’s whole thing is that everything MUST stay nice and neat, often times to the point of lunacy. 

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