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Steven Universe [SPOILERS]
August 10, 2016
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I'm saying Garnet is awkward and frequently unable to read social cues.

Also, you say that, but for all we know, Garnet could be like, "Yo bitch. Ya raped me, and now you're jealous of the fucking childrens, you hella unhealthy, I'm outtie."

August 10, 2016
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I got more faith in them than that. I expect a bit of reflection, acceptance, and reconciliation. Maybe we'll get closure, or maybe it will all be complete filler. We'll find out soon, though. 

Also, Sardonyx had one line in Back to the Moon. 

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Yelling "Steven!" barely counts as a line. Was that even her yelling? It honestly sounded like Deedee to me, or maybe Amethyst's VA?

 

 

What's today's episode? Bubbled? I doubt they'd have Steven floating in space with Eyeball et al. without some reason. Maybe he's gonna wind up asking her about Pink Diamond? I doubt we'll get anything super juicy, but we might get something.

August 10, 2016
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At least he got stuck with the smartest of the Rubies, even if that's not saying much. Maybe he'll even recruit Eyeball, and possibly the others, too. But yeah, I'd like to hear some back story from a homeworld perspective. 

 

Edit: I dunno, it looked like it was Sardonyx yelling after Steven. Might not have been her VA, though. 

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August 10, 2016
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I don't see Sardonyx' mouth moving; it's more like she's agape in horror. I think it was Amethyt yelling.

Also, I think it's Eyeball who drags Steven out into the vacuum of space.

ALSO ALSO, HIS SHIRT'S STILL RIPPED, LOOK AT THAT CONTINUITY.

Now I wanna go back to Crack the Whip and see if Sadie still has her scar.

August 10, 2016
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You know, Steven should have very limited oxygen in his bubble. I'm not even sure how he has oxygen in his bubble, if he formed it in the vacuum of space. Attribute that one to magic. 

I'll bet she still has her scar. I haven't seen her without it since she got it.

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August 10, 2016
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The degree to which this show maintains continuity almost infuriates me. Like, Jesus Crewniverse, stop being so good at life!

 

OH OH YOU KNOW WHAT I NOTICED A BIT AGO???

Peridot, in her bowtie, looks a bit like a certain someone...

 

August 10, 2016
11:38 am
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Yeah, she kind of does. She even attempts humor, frequently, but mostly fails. Peridot would probably really like Sardonyx. Maybe Sardonyx will have her on her show sometime. 

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August 10, 2016
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Maybe meeting Sardonyx would be the catalyst Peridot needs to finally attempt fusion herself. But with whom?

 

Now that we've seen Steven fuse with someone other than Connie, I suspect we'll see more of him and the other gems' fusions. I'd especially like to see Steven/Garnet and Steven/Pearl, because there's interesting parent-child dynamics there. Also, Pearl and Steven have fairly different personalities.

 

You know what I want? A "The Answer"-style flashback detailing Rose Quartz shattering a Diamond.

Also, I was thinking about that red-and- Green feral Quartz. Jasper also got all green and splotchy when she corrupted, so that Quartz might not have been red and green, but just red. Or... a close relative of red. Like pink.

That feral Quartz might have been a Rose Quartz.

August 10, 2016
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I want flashback episodes to tell me everything. I even like the mundane flashbacks that Greg tells. Mostly, though, I just want this Pink Diamond theory to be confirmed. I would be very surprised if this Rose bitch weren't actually the Diamond she supposedly shattered. 

Also, yeah, maybe. Too bad we couldn't see Steven become corrupted, then we'd probably have a better idea if he's actually a Quartz or not. Maybe we will see that, though, which would lead to the discovery of how to fix corruption. 

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What, you mean Steven gets corrupted, and everyone is like, "Oh shit, can't have a show without Steven, better figure out how to fix this,"?

 

I figure Jasper is gonna be the first one to be cured of the corruption; either her or Centipeedle. Since the corruption isn't a physical illness, but rather the physical manifestation of a psychological break, I would think that one would have to treat the source of the problem -- the despair, the hopelessness, the psychosis -- in order to treat the corruption.

Very little on the show seems to happen without reason. Even the filler often turns out to be less-than-filler. Steven grew the Watermelon Stevens so that they could later help defeat Malachite. The Centipeedles were in EPISODE 1, for fuck's sake. Then Steven befriends one. Then she becomes part of a "show, don't tell" mechanic to explain what the corruption really is. I strongly suspect we'll see her and her friends again.

The way they're doing all of this, fast-and-hard, it smacks to me that they're setting something up.

Bam! We find out Rose Quartz was ideologically opposed to shatterinf gems.

Bam! We find out Jasper (and Rose!) were Pink Diamond's gems.

Bam! We find out Rose supposedly shattered Pink Diamond, an act she is supposedly opposed to.

They're building up to something. Either we're going to find out that Rose wasn't quite as good of people as we thought, or we'll find out that Rose was actually Pink Diamond. I'd be okay with it, either way.

Now, because I sit firmly in the "Rose is Pink Diamond" court, what I personally think might happen is that it's going to come to the point where Steven finds out he's a Diamond, and he's going to have to deal with that. Part of dealing with that is going to be making amends to the people hurt by the Diamond Authority -- People like Jasper.

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, Steven finding out he's a Diamond might be the first step in finding out how to cure the corruption. It was strongly implied by both Centipeedle and Jasper (and even Pearl) that the Diamonds purge out undesirables, and that this purge can result in the corruption. If the Diamonds can cause corruption, they can surely fix it.

 

I do want to play devil's advocate and point out that Steven becoming corrupt probably wouldn't give us any reliable information. The Rose Quartz gem has been seen in two different fusions now, both of which resulted in Quartz varieties. Jasper has seen her and Steven fight; if either of them had used the skills or magic of a Diamond, I feel like she'd probably know. (Although, she was made on Earth, which suggests she might not have been created until after Pink Diamond's fall, and only knows what she was told about Pink Diamond.) There's also the issue of Garnet; while she didn't exist at the time of Pink Diamond, one of her constituents likely might have. Sapphire is described as a Homeworld Gem, so she likely was generated on Homeworld, in an era before the rebellion.

There's the possibility that Garnet is just keeping mum on the details out of respect for Rose, and some of Steven's powers seem too OP for a fucking Quartz (his dream powers, and the ability to take over bodies, for example) but if Rose really is a Diamond, then I think she's gone deep stealth. And you know, if anyone would have the skills to make themselves look like another gem -- right down to the gemstone -- I imagine it would be a Diamond.

I still think Rose is Pink Diamond, but it won't be as surprising to me if it turns out she isn't, after this week. I do expect we'll find out soonish, though; we're reaching a point where we could reasonably expect to start taking on Homeworld. I think the big reveal that Steven is a Diamond would come around the same time as when we actually start fighting the Diamonds.

I definitely think Jasper became corrupted for the same reason Centipeedle became Steven's friend, though: they're setting up for later plot.

 

August 10, 2016
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Nearly nothing happens on that show that is inconsequential, or never relevant to a future episode. Even that stupid fucking baseball game kind of became important recently. I just hope it won't be a whole fucking season before we see Jasper again, like the last time. She was a pretty badass villain, while she lasted. 

I don't know what to make of the Bismuth episode right now. If she would poof and imprison one of her own, most loyal soldiers, and then lie about her fate over the morality of shattering gems, it makes me feel like she probably wouldn't have been so quick to shatter a bitch just 'cause she "owned" Earth. Plus, I mean, how is a Quatz going to shatter a Diamond?

I personally believe the Crystal Gems are pulling an Obi-Wan Kenobi on Steven, and Rose was like a reverse Darth Vader type situation. They're telling him his mom destroyed Pink Diamond, and maybe in a way she did. Like, she destroyed the idea of Pink Diamond by assuming a new identity, and then kept that secret safeguarded, and maybe they're waiting for the right time to tell Steven, whenever that will be. Or maybe I'm just reading way too far into this. It would just tie everything up very nicely if Steven was Pink Diamond. 

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August 10, 2016
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I personally believe the Crystal Gems are pulling an Obi-Wan Kenobi on Steven, and Rose was like a reverse Darth Vader type situation. They're telling him his mom destroyed Pink Diamond, and maybe in a way she did. Like, she destroyed the idea of Pink Diamond by assuming a new identity, and then kept that secret safeguarded, and maybe they're waiting for the right time to tell Steven, whenever that will be. 

This is basically my theory, although I also think it's possible the Crystal Gems themselves don't know. Garnet very well could have been recruited after the fact, Amethyst definitely wasn't even around yet, and Bismuth could have been told whatever Rose wanted her to think. Even Pearl might not know, if it turns out she isn't Pink Diamond's Pearl.

 

But basically I figure Pink Diamond faked her own death, took the form of one of Quartz soldiers (the "everyman"), and she and her Pearl went and led the rebellion.

 

It's even possible that Rose isn't the original Rose. Like, some Rose Quartz really did start the rebellion and tried to shatter a bitch, and Pink Diamond took the bitch out but was then like, yo. You're right. This tyranny is whack. And then she assumed the form of her would-be assassin.

 

Also, I want to point out that Ruby's dagger is actually chisel-shaped.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zVBo2_n830

 

It's meant to carve out/shatter gems.

 

BAM.

August 10, 2016
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Actually, I like the idea that her game demise wasn't premeditated and that she assumed another gem's identity. I really hope we get to see some more of this soon. I have too many questions. 

Also, yeah, I noticed her dagger looked like a chisel. Didn't even think about how that might be used on a gem though. Good eye. Pun intended. 

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We already saw tomorrow's episode, so I guess all that's left is Know Your Fusion. Hopefully it'll leak early too and I can finally breathe.

I wrote the fanfictions, ya'll.

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August 10, 2016
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Haha i came one here before i saw the tag. You guys are all over the place. 

Well i didnt know Steven fused with amethyst!

And holly shit Peridot on fucken up Jasper.

Im late to the party as you see.

But im like blown away at all the information. Like a spoiler orgasm. The show has gotten fucken deeep! 

See this is what kids should be watching.

They all are pretty fucken akward. Even Stevens dad.

WHO RAPED GARNET?????

Lapis is a babe.

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August 10, 2016
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I just found out i recorded all of summer of Steven

Day off mañana. 

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August 10, 2016
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bayAreaShaman said
Haha i came one here before i saw the tag. You guys are all over the place. 

Well i didnt know Steven fused with amethyst!

And holly shit Peridot on fucken up Jasper.

Im late to the party as you see.

But im like blown away at all the information. Like a spoiler orgasm. The show has gotten fucken deeep! 

See this is what kids should be watching.

They all are pretty fucken akward. Even Stevens dad.

WHO RAPED GARNET?????

Lapis is a babe.  

LAPIS IS BAE BOO. @Neverthrive hates her because she stole the ocean or some shit but he can suck a fat one.

Pearl raped Garnet, sort of. Fusion is described as the most intimate thing two gems can do, and in the episode Cry for Help Pearl tricks Garnet into fusing with her through lies and deceit.

They stop talking for a while and Ruby and Sapphire actually split up over it, because Sapphire wants to do the "right thing" and forgive Pearl and Ruby feels too used and betrayed to want to do so. She takes it very seriously, because of how significant fusion is to them. They end up fighting for a whole episode.

In the end, Garnet and Pearl find themselves in a life threatening situation and talk it out just enough to work together again, but I never really felt like it was fully addressed.

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August 10, 2016
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yellyellyellyellyellyellyell 

I'll be back in like 10 hours.

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August 12, 2016
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Know Your Fusion was... disappointing.

I mean, it was good, but it wasn't what I wanted, and therefor it was disappointing.

It was really nice to see Sardonyx again, and have her character better fleshed out, but I really wanted some introspection. Or a musical number. Something.

Instead we got her, accidentally stealing Smoky's thunder, and then feeling bad and nearly killing them all.

Which isn't bad TV, I guess, but it isn't the TV I wanted.

The meta jokes were funny, tho.

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