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February 17, 2013
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iLLtheClown said:

murder out of revenge is a cowards way.

but, revenge is one of the classic, universal motives for murder!  all those revenge killings over the ages, they couldnt all have been cowards… 

nah, id be quicker to call someone a coward if i saw them cowering.  active measures require fortitude.  most of the time. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

February 17, 2013
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Why does Hamlet (Shakespeare character) hesitate? He knows that if he kills his uncle his pride will not be the same and he will always feel like a coward. All revenge killings end in cowardice.

February 17, 2013
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okay, but are you in the 'hamlet is crazy' camp, or the 'hamlet is a manipulative prick' camp? 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

February 17, 2013
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Neither i'm in the Hamlet let his anger get the better of him camp.

February 17, 2013
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iLLtheClown said:

Neither i'm in the Hamlet let his anger get the better of him camp.

 

well, at least you can decide.  every time i read/watch that shit, i change my opinion. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

February 17, 2013
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Revenge killing is way too vague, you need to be more specific. Is it cowardly to do it? It really depends. If somebody killed people close to me and got away with it then of course I'd try to hunt him down and kill him. I mean, death is not the worst thing that can happen to somebody. I think some of the small things people do revenge killings on are cowardly, sometimes they are just anger getting the best of them. Anger getting the best of you isn't cowardly, it's just being weak. Sometimes life calls for it, sometimes people just need to control themselves. I don't know, this whole thing just seems kind of contradicting coming from somebody who claimed that I am too cowardly to actually kill somebody.

 

The police are here to help govern us. Government is a necessary evil. (Thomas Paine said that). I just think that people need to do a better job on monitoring who it is that we let govern us. I mean, cops are are citizens, majority of society is full of crooked ass, back stabbing pricks, so of course your local police station is going to be the same. The only difference is that the police have more power to do crooked ass, back stabbing prick stuff and get away with it.

February 18, 2013
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Revenge is an act of anger. 

You will not be punished for your anger, but you will be punished by your anger.

Killing somebody for killing somebody is an act of vengence. You chose to take the path that person took. Sometimes the best course of action is to let karma, the universe or whatever it maybe to deal with that person. The first act of murder is a show of cowardice vengence is the path led by anger. Cowardice is the final act of being like the first person.

February 18, 2013
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To add me calling you a coward was a way at getting you pissed.

February 18, 2013
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Depends on the situation…You have children iLL? If somebody brought harm to my daughter I would fucking rip them apart. Not out of fear and cowardice, but out of love and rage. To me a coward is somebody who doesn't stand up for their beliefs, acts in a reprehensible manner, or brings harm to those who are weaker than them. I guess you could call dorner a coward for killing innocent people. I won't argue with that. I think he should have killed those who had done him wrong, and nobody else. And if he is a coward then what are the police? They shot and injured two innocent people in the hunt for him. They burned the cabin down on purpose without due process because he knew things that could bring harm to them

February 18, 2013
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Honestly, if it wasn’t survival of the fittest for the last x-millennia, the human race would be complete shit. Within the last 50-75 years
we decided to pamper the weak. Honestly, we need to kill all the retards. Autism, be gone. Birth defects, be gone. Bye bye pampered
babies.

1:140 are retards? And we keep em?!?. Garbage. Legally 2 tards can get married and have kids, in all 50. But 2 homo’s can’t get married. Horse shit. Homo’s adopt non tards and raise em as their own. Good shit.

Tards drain our resources. Special small busses. Fuck u. Special chairs fuck you.

Police just need to stop murder. Parking tickets, suck my dick. Speeding tickets, lick my ass. Drive as fast as you can, survive how u can. U dont like people speeding around you. Go another way. No road. Walk. Fuck you.

From tadpoles to frogs to Jesus to legends.

February 18, 2013
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Honestly, if it wasn’t survival of the fittest for the last x-millennia, the human race would be complete shit. Within the last 50-75 years
we decided to pamper the weak. Honestly, we need to kill all the retards. Autism, be gone. Birth defects, be gone. Bye bye pampered
babies.

1:140 are retards? And we keep em?!?. Garbage. Legally 2 tards can get married and have kids, in all 50. But 2 homo’s can’t get married. Horse shit. Homo’s adopt non tards and raise em as their own. Good shit.

Tards drain our resources. Special small busses. Fuck u. Special chairs fuck you.

Police just need to stop murder. Parking tickets, suck my dick. Speeding tickets, lick my ass. Drive as fast as you can, survive how u can. U dont like people speeding around you. Go another way. No road. Walk. Fuck you.

From tadpoles to frogs to Jesus to legends.

February 18, 2013
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I have a goddaughter who I love like a daughter. If somebody brought harm to her I would shatter a couple of their limbs. But that isn't the right way to go.

 

Instead of using Hamlet as an example maybe I should've gone with Batman… Why doesn't Batman kill people? He would be taking the same path as the person who killed his parents. If Batman killed Joker he would be the very thing the Joker is no more no less.

 

Dorner took a cowards way for something that was childish. Dorner kicked another officer because that cop kicked an arrested man. Dorner being kicked out of the lapd was his own doing. His proceeding actions was that of every other killer out there.

February 18, 2013
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And Frog's kind think Population Control is a way to go. The population of the world is already near it's point. It is slowing down. Once it comes to a stop people will start dying off and that number will go down just as it came up.

February 18, 2013
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iLLtheClown said:

To add me calling you a coward was a way at getting you pissed.

I knew it!!!!!!!

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February 18, 2013
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If somebody were to purposely kill or extremely hurt somebody close to me, I will kill them. Karma? I honestly can't believe in karma. Bad things happen to too many good people for no reason for me to believe in karma. At the same time, I don't see any reason in playing this 1 up game that some people do with revenge over stupid petty things.

 

Frog's little idea on how society should be ran is a joke, there are autistic people out there with pretty brilliant minds. My sister has a friend who has an  autistic child that can play any melody he hears on the piano just by ear. Bring up some actual statistics that prove retards drain our resources. We spend so much money in this country towards a failed education system when we probably could be spending less money on a working education system. We waste tons of our resources on tons of stupid shit that out weigh the resources that we “waste” on the retarded. I mean, with that little remark on speeding tickets (considering the fact that perhaps cars being able to stop fast enough before they hit a pedestrian trying to cross the street is a good thing) you'd probably be killed in the retard massacres if we were to take your advice.

February 18, 2013
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For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. You killed out of revenge because your anger controlled you. Now you are doing time in jail because well you killed somebody. I give a homeless person some food or some money I don't get robbed upon leaving the club. I punch somebody in the face I get arrested, jumped or murdered. Maybe should get out of your shell and study some eastern philosophy. Go with taoism & buddhism. You might start understanding the world in better way. 

 

Bad things happen to good people for numerous reason. An innocent person catches one to the head it was their time to go. An innocent person gets robbed maybe there's a greater plan for them and they need some inspiration.

February 18, 2013
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So if I kill somebody then they died for a reason. Perhaps it was their time to go. If a somebody rapes a child, is that karma or is that just part of the universe's divine plan?

 

I honestly believe a lot of that karma stuff is complete bullshit, but I will possibly look into Taoism and Buddhism because people keep claiming that I'd like some of the things they teach. I remember stating to somebody that if everybody would just do positive things and help each other out more often then we would have a much better place to live, and they said that that is one of the ideas taught in either Buddhism or Taoism.

 

You do know that if you accept that as a fact then you can't really believe that we have free will. If there is a “greater plan” for people out there than we don't really have free will. Even though I believe that we create our own plans in life, I can say that I have had dreams that have portrayed the future before. I'm not one to make shit up and even believe in this type of bullshit, but I have had dreams that have actually happened in the future, though none of the events that I dreamed about were actually important to anything other than the fact that I dreamed about them. Me, I'm just going to do what I do, if your beliefs are right than I'm just going through with the greater plan that has been laid before me.

February 18, 2013
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I say “I mean” a lot.

February 18, 2013
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There's a greater plan for everyone but there are detractors. You have the chance to be great well known happy or you can ignore your chances to be better and follow what other people choose for you to do.

 

If you kill someone who's killed someone you were the end of that person. But you morally as a person are no better than them. If you don't do anything something else will happen to that person. If somebody rapes a child that child might be the greatest activist to ever be.

February 18, 2013
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If a raped child might become an activist then there might have been a better plan for the raping. Karma might happen. What if somebody does something completely foul and nothing happens to them? Do you really believe that can't happen? Things aren't that black and white either, it's not about what you do, it's about why you do it.

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