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3:33 am
March 31, 2012
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Something always happens. The person who never had anything happen dies being ate up inside from the regret of their action. Never manages to have a child or wife. The raping wasn't the better plan. What the child does afterwards could lead to a better plan or they could dwell on the detractor.
3:45 am
September 18, 2012
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iLLtheClown said:
Something always happens. The person who never had anything happen dies being ate up inside from the regret of their action. Never manages to have a child or wife. The raping wasn't the better plan. What the child does afterwards could lead to a better plan or they could dwell on the detractor.
That's just too fairytale for me to believe. I wish it were true, but I just can't believe that it is true.
3:56 am
March 31, 2012
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It's true you just can't see it yet. Everything happens whether you know about it or not. That's the way of the universe. We are in control yet we aren't.
4:02 am
September 18, 2012
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Perhaps. Life goes on, I might see evidence of this.
4:10 am
March 31, 2012
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“Men of the world who value the Way all turn to books. But books are nothing more than words. Words have value; what is of value in words is meaning. Meaning has something it is pursuing, but the thing that it is pursuing cannot be put into words and handed down. The world values words and hands down books but, though the world values them, I do not think them worth valuing. What the world takes to be values is not real value.” ― Zhuangzi
4:21 am
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May 22, 2012
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1: that 'whatever doesnt kill you…' mindset is total bullshit.
if god really does read your resume before letting you into heaven, then, maybe. but i dont buy it.
2: frogs position is, without qualification, some dumb fuckin bullshit.
euthanize the mentally deficient? how, with zyklon d? gonna measure peoples craniums to decide if they live or die? sounds familiar.
fuck off with that.
two of my closest homies have a son with downs syndrome. if anybody, anywhere, dared to state that he should be killed before he reproduces, id fuckin mutilate them.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
4:51 am
March 31, 2012
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“1: that 'whatever doesnt kill you…' mindset is total bullshit.” Can't agree with you on that. Not talking about god as it seems but more so how predestined we are if chose to follow the correct path to greatness.
“2: frogs position is, without qualification, some dumb fuckin bullshit.” Will agree with you on that.
5:05 am
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May 22, 2012
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id say that 'predestined' and 'choice' dont belong together.
its not that youre wrong, ill, its more that i am, for lack of a better term, a badguy. whatever path im following, goodness and light dont really enter into it, one way or the other. if your path to greatness means turning the other cheek and all that jazz, more power to you.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
8:44 am
September 17, 2012
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Turning the other cheek at the same time can allow that person to harm others in the future.
ILL, do you own any guns? If you do, let's say you're in your house in a bedroom where one is, while putting small children to bed (yours or not). You hear someone kick in your door and look out the window to see even more people rushing in your place, armed. What are you going to do?
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10:47 am
March 31, 2012
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We are in control yet we aren't. I can't control what somebody else does but if it's to bring harm to me & mine I will defend me & mine. In a hypothetical as you stated cabal I can't assure what I would do as that time hasn't occured yet for me. What would you do if your wife & daughter died in a car crash caused by a drunk driver?
10:59 am
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May 22, 2012
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What would you do if your wife & daughter died in a car crash caused by a drunk driver?
if i had the means, id probably fuck up the drunk driver. badly.
cabals hypothetical falls more into the range of self defense, than it does revenge killing. more acceptable, morally speaking.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
11:06 am
September 17, 2012
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iLLtheClown said:
We are in control yet we aren't. I can't control what somebody else does but if it's to bring harm to me & mine I will defend me & mine. In a hypothetical as you stated cabal I can't assure what I would do as that time hasn't occured yet for me. What would you do if your wife & daughter died in a car crash caused by a drunk driver?
Kill him.
Hypothetical, but I feel one should be prepared for such an occasion. Physically and mentally.
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11:13 am
March 31, 2012
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You can never prepare for something you've never dealt with before. If you kill him you are no better than him.
11:17 am
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May 22, 2012
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speaking for myself, i wasnt put here to be better than anybody. sometimes i think my true purpose in life is to be a negative example.
but then i look at the real negative examples, and i want no part of that shit.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
11:18 am
September 17, 2012
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iLLtheClown said:
You can never prepare for something you've never dealt with before. If you kill him you are no better than him.
I don't understand the first part.
That's between me and him and whoever/whatever we meet in the afterlife. You are no better than an evil person if you sit back and do nothing. Some might say you are even worse.
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12:41 pm
iLLtheClown said:
I have a goddaughter who I love like a daughter. If somebody brought harm to her I would shatter a couple of their limbs. But that isn't the right way to go.
If you can be that noble than I guess you are a better person than me. Right or wrong there would be no other option….What if justice wasn't served? What if your child's murderer got off? You still let god deal with it? I just can't say i'd let it go with a straight face
Instead of using Hamlet as an example maybe I should've gone with Batman… Why doesn't Batman kill people? He would be taking the same path as the person who killed his parents. If Batman killed Joker he would be the very thing the Joker is no more no less.
Dorner took a cowards way for something that was childish. Dorner kicked another officer because that cop kicked an arrested man. Dorner being kicked out of the lapd was his own doing. His proceeding actions was that of every other killer out there.
How is what Batman does any better? He doesn't kill people so he can trick himself into thinking that he does the job out of the good of his heart and for justice. When in reality batman is just his vendetta. He feels responsible for his parents death, and beating the fuck out of people is a way of getting vengeance on a man that he will never see. He does the right things for the wrong reasons. It's a very fine line between wrong and right.
Oh and dorner didn't kick any officers man. he witnessed it, filed a report, then got fired for filing a false report.
1:27 pm
March 31, 2012
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Batman is written as choosing not to kill because if he did he would be no better than his rouges. If you kill somebody out of vengeance you are no better than that person. I'm not talking about god. The people who think I am are overthinking.
You cannot justify murder through vengeance. What Dorner did was through an act of cowardice. If you try and justify revenge killing than you have failed.
3:08 pm
September 17, 2012
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You're basing this off a made up story?
I had no idea…thought we were talking about real life here.
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7:45 pm
January 6, 2013
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I didnt mean we should go out and kill every retard right now, but if it was the norm to off em at birth, i feel it would be better for our species as a whole.
U dont keep bad fruit just cause u took the time to grow it, right? At least i dont.
More than likely my kids will be retarded, cause i deserve that burden.
I also feel like religion has held us back tremendously, theres like 7 or 8 billion people. 90% have a faith or religion. Lets say half of them go to worship for an hour a week. Thats like 3.6 billion hours a week. Subtract the disabled, sick, and children. To cut that number down to an estimated 2 billion.
2 billion man/woman hours a week. Wasted. We could be so much more advanced than we are.
But, i think religion is important to control the masses. People need guidance.
From tadpoles to frogs to Jesus to legends.
8:29 pm
December 3, 2012
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iLLtheClown said:
Batman is written as choosing not to kill because if he did he would be no better than his rouges. If you kill somebody out of vengeance you are no better than that person. I'm not talking about god. The people who think I am are overthinking.
You cannot justify murder through vengeance. What Dorner did was through an act of cowardice. If you try and justify revenge killing than you have failed.
Yeah actually you can…Well maybe not you but I can.
I was in no way saying what Dorner did was right…All I was saying is I can empathize to why he did it. All I am saying is not all revenge is cowardice to me. They only person I have to justify anything for is myself. Also I was trying to say that you have never been backed into a corner like that, and cowardice or not, you don't know how you would react in any given situation until it happens. If someone raped your girlfriend or wife, then I wouldn't blame you for killing them. Is that right? Probably not to you, but I don't want to leave it up to law enforcement to carry out justice for me….Neither do I want to leave that up to karma or god, however you wanna put it, it comes to one in the same. Would a revenge killing make you feel any better? Nope….That isn't the point though. An eye for an eye. You fuck me over or hurt me, then I am gonna hurt you. Maybe that's an outdated way of thinking, but to let people walk all over you, THAT is being a coward. If that makes you feel like you have a moral high ground over me than that is fine with me.
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
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