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May 25, 2015
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I am putting this out in an attempt to help the 7.7 million Americans with PTSD, 2.4 million with schizophrenia, 6 million with panic disorders,  and over 40 million with mood disorders........ shit's free, I am trying to start a non profit organization so I can apply for grants to prove these cures that I have come across.......  I sent it in to Faygoluvers, waiting for the reply,(it's a holiday and shit) but still... it's free...  Featuring The Jokerr and Justinsayne N8v      (in a hidden song at the end of the 4th songNon-Profit-or-Bust-cover.pngImage Enlarger

)     If you like, or even understand, please share, this ain't about a music career.       http://www.mediafire.com/downl.....r+Bust.zip

May 25, 2015
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dling, will check it out in short order.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 25, 2015
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Good shit Scruffy. Thanks fam. let me know how it goes, its only 31 mins.

May 25, 2015
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downloading now.

will listen tonight.

Good luck homie, not enough people doing it for the right reason.

May 25, 2015
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I agree Novocaine, in the 60's they had the potential, but something happened. Not sure what... but with all the millions made, you'd think that shit would get solved already, between music and Movies and shit, instead of just sayin empty words in award shows and shit.

May 25, 2015
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listenin to the pitch now.  

dont exactly have organized thoughts right now, but im certainly not against you at all.  

 

im decidedly undecided about the methods you are espousing, not so sure that they would be effective across a wide spectrum.  

what info that is out there is divided at best, as well as largely apocryphal [including the so-called scientific research, which, from what ive read is not especially scientific; too agenda-driven, for starters.  not that being agenda-driven is an automatic disqualifier, far from it].  

 

having said all that, anything that helps an individual to hack it, is clearly good for that individual, and im not prone to tellin people that what works for them doesnt really work.  

personally, i feel that there is a drug out there for nearly everyone.  and further, that those drugs are not universal.  

'drug', by the way, in this context, is not necessarily limited to pharmacology.  

 

if nothin else, your makin points.  fair points, whether i ultimately agree with them or not.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 25, 2015
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in the 1920's the Chinese Meridian system was proven by injecting isotopes into acupuncture points. This information has gone unknown all this time, literally, we have been lied to about our own biology.  Ibogaine, a derivative of Iboga, has been recently used in drug addiction treatment in the more "exclusive'' treatment facilities, but the original purpose/function is to delve deep within the subconscious to address the causes of any problem, there is a post Iboga explanation by Joe Rogen, but he did not do it for it's intended purpose.... which is to solve subconscious issues. He more or less, tripped, because he came with no intention, and the process was not documented. Life between life regression has had no real scientific study, hence the desire to do so, which like Cannibus oil curing cancer, tumors, and seizures, is a fairly simple process.  The effects of Tai Chi and Chi Gong are well documented, from curing lethargy,  to depression, and many physical ailments, but still not covered by health insurance. All of these things are easily documented, to see what the truth is, unlike, once again, The ALS challenge that has raised over 86 million dollars.... I could all of this for much much less, and could actually include the fam in the process..... Money is being wasted/embezzled on all types of non profit research, with these, there is a hypothesis, there is adequate previous research, it just hasn't been executed for the sake of mental illness. (life between life regression has been studied in the thousands by it's pioneer Micheal Newton, and hundreds of therapists that he has personally trained, 1 of which, is willing to let me document the process.)

May 25, 2015
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did you like any of the songs? like did it keep your attention the whole way through? I dont claim to be the shit or nothing, just trying to see who else has been searching for cures and shit, like I have been.. and people dont seem to like straightforward messages like that.

May 25, 2015
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not gonna front to you, you got an uphill climb, like a mufucka.  

 

the big challenge is ibogaine.  bein illegal here, that means a fuckload of lobbyin and other tedious bullshit to get it over.  and thats only after a few dozen highly reputable scientificos willingly stake their careers on researching it in the first place.  and then, the research has gotta be glowingly positive, which definitely aint been the case yet.  

then you can really start raising awareness.  in the meantime, very few people [particularly juggalos] are in a position to provide practical assistance to the cause.  

 

like i said, i feel theres a certain, specific drug for [almost] everyone.  and i feel, just as strongly, that there is no drug that is for everyone, meaning, that everyone should use it.  not even in a therapeutic, regimented way.  

a small percentage of hopheads really should be hopheads, because they are better people that way.  same with baseheads, methheads, and on and on.  in those cases, they are very small percentages indeed [under 5%, for damn sure], but those are extreme examples.  not the least reason bein, they imply chronic usage, which has just about gotta be contraindicated, with ibogaine.  

 

in my mind, there is no question that x number of people will benefit from ibogaine therapy.  at the same time, there is very little question that for y number of people, it would be disastrous.  

no way of knowing what x and y equal, though, not while its schedule i.  

 

on another note, good show, proppin the beatmakers.  so many out there refuse to do that, for whatever weak ass reason.  

 

far as the music itself, would need another listen to judge its character and quality.  

gots heart, ill state that now.  its decent.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 25, 2015
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I agree on all fronts, some people drown out deeper issues with chronic drug usage, and simply hide from the causes. ( child molestation, and murder being two obvious factors.) As for awareness, true, getting the awareness out there is a tough road, but with people Like Robin Williams committing suicide, and John Forbes Nash ( the Nobel Peace Prize winning schizophrenic that "A Beautiful Mind" is based off of) Just died Today/Yesterday depending on where you are from..... There is a void for representatives to step in..... But once Non Profit Status is achieved, there are many resources and avenues to pursue, even Native American Casinos (Sin Tax) with yearly donations to non profits that total in the millions from each individual county, and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, (that actually grants money for movies about causes) it may not be as hard as it seems (especially considering the fact that artists can be hired for verses, and cd's can be put out fairly easily, take my audacity using not mixed and mastered nonsense as an example.) If I had paid ABK the 5,000 he asked for for a verse, or the 800 Hoodoo asked for, do you think many Juggalos would be inclined to listen? Imagine if someone could afford to pay both Tech and Eminem for a song to put out on a non profit cd........ something specifically designed for that function, I think people would catch on if the research was done. I have not seen many use music to aid this world, even hurricane Katrina. If the science adds up, and the music is there to spread awareness, who could deny what we the people could potentially accomplish, beyond this concept, but into the very function of celebrity... that's my idea anyway.... provide the research, and expand awareness with music, and any other avenue possible ( I probably wont be doing much in the music department,) but imagine if Nelly's "Air Force Ones" song actually went to giving people shoes who needed them...... what would the world be like? And I really appreciate you takin the time man... to listen and respond.... I am deeply grateful man.  

May 25, 2015
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issues n such notwithstanding...  

 

five grand for a abk verse is an extreme ripoff.  i cannot oversell that enough.  

you probably could get tech and eminem on a song together for that much, if they liked you enough.  

 

five boxes of ziti...  hes basicly tellin you to fuck off and die, at that price.  good god.  that is an outrageous ask, for him.  

i wouldnt pay him two bills.  i mean, im a cheapskate n all, but still...  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 25, 2015
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lmao.... I thought the same, but there is a huge issue with natives being taken into foster care, and overdrugged, for so called mental illnesses...... I would Love to see ABK, Redcloud, and Justinsayne N8v on a track together. And If given grant money to put together a masterpiece........  I'd do whatever it took to bring that topic to light.

May 25, 2015
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And I talked to their manager, Hoodoo and ABK have the same manager, George sumthin....

May 25, 2015
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trust me, if he gave half a fuck, a four-figure quote would never have even been a consideration.  five gs is just asinine.  

massive rip, no matter how you slice it.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 25, 2015
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Uphill climb. Not saying don't do it but prepare for a battle that may take up most of your life and it may result in nothing changing at all. Pharmaceutical companies make multi billions in "maintenance" medication, no university or agency that gets kickbacks from them is going to help with anything that may be a "cure". You are going to be fighting with spare change against multi-billions. Expect everything negative that can be brought up to discredit your claim being brought to the forefront. This will include your personal life and anything else they can attack your creditability with. You aren't the first to come up with these ideas. Previous attempts ended when they ran up against the wall of Big Pharmaceutical.

Just trying to let you know what you are in for if you go down that road. You are starting a battle from scratch against an enemy that has had decades placing political, legal, and social minefields down every possible road you can think of.

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True Psyral, which begs the question..... what about when the worlds like fuck us, kill us, what will you be? I was told before, that if I really know the cure to mental illness, then I'd be a billionaire. Some people just don't see it for what it is. But who could deny the irony of a group of fans who listen to the INSANE Clown Posse curing mental illness? I know it's dumb to assume that Juggalos would actually help in any way..... like sharing the research, or buying a cd, or a tshirt, shit or even reviewing a 4 song cd..... let alone donating, but I guarantee they would want to be a part of the documentaries necessary to prove said research........   I do get the feeling that the fam would rather stand behind the wicked shit, then actually do anything to solve the problems that made them Juggalos in the first place. I think it takes a special kind of abuse to like this kind of music, and that same abuse is what causes many mental illnesses. As for personal attacks, Yeah, the results would have to be filmed, before and after, and then shared, just in case........ For those who have eyes, let them see. For those who have ears let them hear.

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listen, it aint quite tilting at windmills... but its pretty close.  the dragons [in this case], are invisible, protected by law, financed by capital that is beyond measure, exceedingly skilled at getting their way, entrenched in establishment, and about the size of sports arenas.  

you need to do research yourself.  a lot.  and i dont mean askin a pill roller or a clinic manager about their opinions; you know their opinions already.  consult with an actual legit lobbyist [a merc who does this kinda thing for a living, and gives a shit about the issues themselves], if you can find one that will take the time.  thats the kind of help you need, every juggalo in the world couldnt put this issue on the map.  

look into what it really takes to get sumn like this up and runnin.  you are several orders of magnitude short of that.  recommend you start with the scientific method.  read a few books about just that, youll see how your approach needs much reevaluation.  

 

enthusiasm may get you in the game, but its worthy exactly zero points.  

 

try to take all this in stride.  i aint tryin to bring you down, but realism trumps idealism.  every.  single.  time.  

 

for the record, it does not take abuse to enjoy this kind of music.  such personalities are, without qualification, in the minority.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 25, 2015
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I agree on all fronts, some people drown out deeper issues with chronic drug usage, and simply hide from the causes. ( child molestation, and murder being two obvious factors.) As for awareness, true, getting the awareness out there is a tough road, but with people Like Robin Williams committing suicide, and John Forbes Nash ( the Nobel Peace Prize winning schizophrenic that "A Beautiful Mind" is based off of) Just died Today/Yesterday depending on where you are from..... There is a void for representatives to step in..... But once Non Profit Status is achieved, there are many resources and avenues to pursue, even Native American Casinos (Sin Tax) with yearly donations to non profits that total in the millions from each individual county, and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, (that actually grants money for movies about causes) it may not be as hard as it seems (especially considering the fact that artists can be hired for verses, and cd's can be put out fairly easily, take my audacity using not mixed and mastered nonsense as an example.) If I had paid ABK the 5,000 he asked for for a verse, or the 800 Hoodoo asked for, do you think many Juggalos would be inclined to listen? Imagine if someone could afford to pay both Tech and Eminem for a song to put out on a non profit cd........ something specifically designed for that function, I think people would catch on if the research was done. I have not seen many use music to aid this world, even hurricane Katrina. If the science adds up, and the music is there to spread awareness, who could deny what we the people could potentially accomplish, beyond this concept, but into the very function of celebrity... that's my idea anyway.... provide the research, and expand awareness with music, and any other avenue possible ( I probably wont be doing much in the music department,) but imagine if Nelly's "Air Force Ones" song actually went to giving people shoes who needed them...... what would the world be like? And I really appreciate you takin the time man... to listen and respond.... I am deeply grateful man.  

Usually for non-profit CDs, people give their music for free. Like the album to help the people in Japan after the tsunami.

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To Scruffy: The very nature of living in an oppressive country and being affected by " invisible, protected by law, financed by capital that is beyond measure, exceedingly skilled at getting their way, entrenched in establishment, and about the size of sports arenas. " IS technically abuse. And as for the research you are talking about, I have, which is why I am trying to get non profit status to prove-spread awareness of this research. A person can read, or inquire and find themselves with information that clashes even with itself, depending on the source, which is why first hand, filmed, documented evidence is the only way to bypass years of sitting in limbo.  True, enthusiasm MAY get you nowhere, unless you are convincing enough in your pitch. Again, the ALS challenge had no research behind it, they asked for donations to fund the research itself..... what occurred on facebook those months ago, and even STILL posted on faygoluvers under the Juggalo Ice bucket challenge, is proof enough of what enthusiasm, and a little support can accomplish. That entire process was peer to peer sharing. And again, 86 million dollars, and still no results. So the concept of Juggalos not being able to put the issue on the map, is to deny the very foundation of simple communication. Literally put, if Cannibus oil cures tumors, cancer, and seizures, then a movie documenting it, cannot quantify doubt, if done in a large enough group of patients.....(depending on your view, bypassing, or following the scientific method)  Also, Iboga being illegal, is like saying that weed is illegal in America.... not everywhere. Iboga is legal in Canada, and a few other countries. (and yes, they treat drug addiction with Ibogaine, but have loooong waiting lists) That would be like saying you couldnt go to Amsterdam to film the effects of cannibus oil on cancer and tumors, instead of just heading to Colorado. Problem being, it doesn't work when smoked, it must be ingested.   I think the bottom line that you are trying to convey is that people dont give a shit.  And for that, I have no rebuttal. So while all these other drug addicted, crazy, literal Juggalo gangs out there make it bad for anyone with a hatchet tat, or a sticker in their car window, ( I just read that 17 states now have classified Juggalos as a hate group) There is nothing that can be done to protect ourselves from each other. Other than fixing the image...... but that would take giving a shit.... and we would be back to square one.

 

To Pig: Non Profits giving out music for free, is exactly what I did, (minus the non profit status) https://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/.....      and if it was given out for free, then how was any money raised for Japan?

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The artist gave their music to the people making the cd, and the proceeds from selling said cd went to Japan. I'm talking about the people that are trying to charge you 5gs for a verse. Mad child will do a verse for $250 (or so I've heard)

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