4:58 am
September 18, 2012
5:28 am
December 3, 2012
DrFreshness said
The whole thing is just a way of letting people make a statement about what side they're on- do you hate fags and weirdos and want to express your disapproval of them?
See, I told yall. I MUST hate fags and weirdos because I don't want men going to the bathroom with my young daughter. It might not be much of an issue now, but it will be. I don't care if they are really what they say they are or they are pretending for some pervert reasons, it isn't right. And I'm not saying the scenario would EVER play out.
edit: I aint just talking about my own daughter either. I wouldn't want that for anyones child, son or daughter, manwoman or womanman. The variables don't matter to me.
@DrFreshness I get what you are trying to say and I get that you aren't talkin' bout me. I am just saying there is a third side is all. It isn't all black and white, it rarely is. Not for me at least.
@krunkazphuk Yeah I know about the procedures. I am just curious from I guess from an overall perspective.
@scruffy It has to be a VERY small percentage. I can't argue against that. So let's just give em their own bathrooms and be done with it. Everyone wins.
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6:06 am
September 18, 2012
8:28 am
May 4, 2014
King Lucem Ferre said
I think we should treat the Hitler talk the same way we treat the sex talk. Many people attest to learning about Hitler and letting it sink in that he actually had millions of people killed being the point they lost the most of their innocence.
I went to Catholic grade school and was shown slides of aborted fetuses when I was 10 or 11 years old. Here's a big to that school from me.
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI, Nyro
8:35 am
March 10, 2016
krunkazphuk said
King Lucem Ferre said
I think we should treat the Hitler talk the same way we treat the sex talk. Many people attest to learning about Hitler and letting it sink in that he actually had millions of people killed being the point they lost the most of their innocence.I went to Catholic grade school and was shown slides of aborted fetuses when I was 10 or 11 years old. Here's a big to that school from me.
What a fantastic thing to show children. Sorry you had to endure that shit as a child.
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI8:44 am
June 13, 2013
King Lucem Ferre said
Nyro said
King Lucem Ferre said
Wait, are we still going to pretend that children are completely oblivious until they reach high school?I was talking about a 4 year old...big difference. Well I thought it was. I didn't know about sex even at 4 myself. Maybe I was sheltered?
No, at 4 she shouldn't be using the bathroom by herself in the first place, but you said it's something she shouldn't learn until highschool. I learned at 8 or 9 through other kids.
This ^^, the last thing Lucem said. THAT could fix almost everything. When it comes to using public restrooms, a parent should accompany their child. And by "accompany" I mean, standing outside the stall until they're done going. What sick predator is going to mess with your child if you're standing right there?
But the whole seperate restroom thing just for transgender people? It won't happen, or even probably shouldn't. Black people once had seperate restrooms from white people way back in history, and that was over once everyone saw how ridiculous it was. Where do you draw the line with transgender people? Even if they are given their own public restrooms, how long would it last until it is seen as intolerant and discriminating and everyone ends up using the same restrooms again anyways?
Parents need to be responsible and accompany their children in and out of the restroom until they're old enough to know better.
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8:56 am
March 10, 2016
86 said
King Lucem Ferre said
Nyro said
King Lucem Ferre said
Wait, are we still going to pretend that children are completely oblivious until they reach high school?I was talking about a 4 year old...big difference. Well I thought it was. I didn't know about sex even at 4 myself. Maybe I was sheltered?
No, at 4 she shouldn't be using the bathroom by herself in the first place, but you said it's something she shouldn't learn until highschool. I learned at 8 or 9 through other kids.
This ^^, the last thing Lucem said. THAT could fix almost everything. When it comes to using public restrooms, a parent should accompany their child. And by "accompany" I mean, standing outside the stall until they're done going. What sick predator is going to mess with your child if you're standing right there?
But the whole seperate restroom thing just for transgender people? It won't happen, or even probably shouldn't. Black people once had seperate restrooms from white people way back in history, and that was over once everyone saw how ridiculous it was. Where do you draw the line with transgender people? Even if they are given their own public restrooms, how long would it last until it is seen as intolerant and discriminating and everyone ends up using the same restrooms again anyways?
Parents need to be responsible and accompany their children in and out of the restroom until they're old enough to know better.
Hypothetically......my wife is with my daughter and she just got done using the restroom and is washing her hands like she should and as she is drying them..this walks in.
http://bilerico.lgbtqnation.co.....senger.jpg
How do you shelter/explain this to a 4 year old cause you know sure as shit she is gonna ask.
10:15 am
May 4, 2014
Nyro said
... How do you shelter/explain this to a 4 year old cause you know sure as shit she is gonna ask.
I have a daughter and for a 4-year-old I would calmly lead them out ASAP and tell her (with a smile) that some people think that every day is Halloween. Then I'd tell myself that people who bring their kids to
get what they pay for.
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Nyro
10:28 am
March 10, 2016
I like the idea but it wouldn't work my daughter is at the boys are boys and girls are girls stage. She would ask directly after such a response something like "why is he dressed like a girl though and isn't he too old to trick or treat?"
We don't have waffle houses sadly. Never been to one. I think the closest one is two hours away.
10:56 am
May 4, 2014
Nyro said
I like the idea but it wouldn't work my daughter is at the boys are boys and girls are girls stage. She would ask directly after such a response something like "why is he dressed like a girl though and isn't he too old to trick or treat?"We don't have waffle houses sadly. Never been to one. I think the closest one is two hours away.
Maybe it's time she learned that adults celebrate Halloween too, so this guy
doesn't scar her for life.
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Nyro
11:12 am
May 4, 2014
11:47 am
December 3, 2012
I think the lesson I learned here is never take children to a public bathroom period unless its one of those with one toilet where the door locks XD.
As far as accompanying( i butchered that like four times before i spelled it right) children in, what do you do when theres no woman around and your little girl has gotta go? Do you still walk in there? When I had to do that for my daughter I always waited outside the door. So maybe now that all this is goin on it will be ok for a straight man to walk into the womens bathroom with their child? Idk just asking questions. The more I think about this shit the murkier it gets. holy fuck nuggets.
86 is right though (cept for the black part, two totally different things and situations) they likely will not get their own bathrooms in most places. Maybe if a time came when a higher percentage of the population identify as such, then it will probably be revisited. Like Lucem said, they should probably just suck it up( how insensitive of me) and use the right bathroom. Orrrr maybe we just let the shit slide so we don't hurt anyones feelings. Fuck dude Idk.
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
Sturgill Simpson- Turtles All The Way Down
11:54 am
September 18, 2012
It's more awkward for you to be in the girl's room than her in the men's room with you, I think. Either way, what piece of shit is going to make a big fuss no matter what choice you make?
Also, you'd think there would be bigger issues in a transgender's life than not being able to piss in the bathroom they want. I just hope that historically we don't sound like bigoted assholes, because we're not trying to be.
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Nyro12:02 pm
May 4, 2014
King Lucem Ferre said
It's more awkward for you to be in the girl's room than her in the men's room with you, I think. Either way, what piece of shit is going to make a big fuss no matter what choice you make?..
There are Family Restrooms
in Houston, so if there are any in your area it might be a good option.
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Nyro
12:05 pm
December 3, 2012
Right! I aint trying to sound like a dickhead here. And yes we have much more pressing issues going on. Aint nobody on facebook talking about the Panama Papers but they wanna argue back and forth about this knowing damn well aint nobody gonna change their minds. I only brought it up in the first place cause it was kinda on topic.
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
Sturgill Simpson- Turtles All The Way Down
1:05 pm
May 28, 2013
Slumerican502 said
Right! I aint trying to sound like a dickhead here. And yes we have much more pressing issues going on. Aint nobody on facebook talking about the Panama Papers but they wanna argue back and forth about this knowing damn well aint nobody gonna change their minds. I only brought it up in the first place cause it was kinda on topic.
This! I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist but anytime something like this comes up in conversation, be it in the media, Facebook, etc etc, I can't help but think what just happened that we shouldn't know about.
Also as one of the L's in the LGBT acronym, I can tell you transgender arguments and disagreement has been going on for a long time amongst that specific group of folks , and not in a positive light, way before the whole Bruce/Caitlyn announcement happened (which oddly happened around the same time the Dept of Homeland Security almost shut down). Its goes beyond religious beliefs and even I have a hard time coming up with a simple answer/solution.
So I'll just throw this into the mix: I look like a chick but I also like to fuck chicks. Where should I pee?
Depending on the argument I find myself in, answers vary. I feel comfortable using the Women's room as I am a woman. I've had a handful of folks say I should be using the Men's room because I'm not attracted to men. Which I'm sure would go over so well as I stand at the mirror, fixing my eyeliner, announcing that I have no desire to suck a dick to remind those why I'm in said bathroom.
To me it seems that its a matter of what the person looks like. I have plenty of friends who fall into the more butchier category and have had odd looks thrown in their direction walking in and out of the Women's room.
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May 22, 2012
Slumerican502 said
scruffy It has to be a VERY small percentage. I can't argue against that. So let's just give em their own bathrooms and be done with it. Everyone wins.
everyone, except whoever is payin for it.
which would probably be, all of us.
krunk reminds me that there are already three bathrooms per, in many spots. the 'none of the above' door would be the fourth, in those cases.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
3:01 pm
June 13, 2013
Slumerican502 said
86 is right though (cept for the black part, two totally different things and situations)
Different in a sense, yes. But also similar. Back in those days whites didn't want to share bathrooms with blacks for whatever reason, but whatever the reason was, it has proven to be a crock. You see these days, OUR time e're living in right now, we don't think twice about white and black folks using the same toilet. But back THEN, it was a huge social conflict. Everybody thought blacks carried more germs or whatever than whites, and it was proven to be bullshit.
And now, back in our time, we face this issue with transgenders and if they should have their own seperate bathrooms. For fear of what? Not whether or not they carry more dieseases than the rest of the population, but whether they may or may not harm our children in the rest area. (A little off topic here, but isn't it a tad funny/odd how history shows a history of humans taking up issue with who gets to shit where?! Just...weird)
We have faced social conflicts like this before. It's a little different in it's own way, but ultimately has the same setting.
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