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February 13, 2019
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1. Socialism and capitalism aren’t exclusive of one another. They can coexist. There’s plenty of thriving countries that implement it and get conveniently ignored for countries that tried socialism with out the resources to do so.

 

2. The problem is that you look at capitalist economies and how well countries thrive, but you don’t see how much of the people in the country benefit off of it. Marx’s critique of capitalism is that the middle class will always horde the wealth while the lower class gets left with very little creating class warfare. He never anticipated something like America, where the middle class continues to shrink and the upper class hordes the money. America is the living example of what he’s predicted but 10X worse.

 

3. China is Marxist. They plan on returning to communism. They believe it failed because they skipped capitalism while Marx said that you need capitalism to begat communism.

 

4. I personally don’t think a country can thrive with out capitalism in a world that’s capitalist.

 

 

Saying that love or a sense of belonging isn’t a need is just stupid. Infants literally die with out it. Fucking ‘Mensa’.

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King Lucem Ferre said
…Saying that love or a sense of belonging isn’t a need is just stupid. Infants literally die with out it. Fucking ‘Mensa’.  

I still stand by my statement. 

I think infants need nurturing due to not being physically able to survive unassisted but I do not believe love is necessary. Many infants are born into this world who are not loved and do survive. 

I am also not too sure what sense of belonging an infant has. 

Can someone “literally” die? I guess they can with modern dictionaries defining the word “literally” to also mean actually, figuratively, or in effect.  Defined as “actually” AND “figuratively”? Why have we allowed this to happen? Whatever happened to the the original definition which is “of, relating to, or expressed in or with letters”. The word, broken down, means exactly that. Why have we stopped teaching etymology? 

But this is not the only word that we have allowed to be redefined as something that has contradictory definitions. Just one of the many.

February 15, 2019
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Psyral Infection said


. Why have we stopped teaching etymology? 

But this is not the only word that we have allowed to be redefined as something that has contradictory definitions. Just one of the many.  

Cuz words are swords, sun.

In order to make a word,  it has to be spelled. 

In order to make a sword,  it has to be casts.

Creating words is casting spells,  ya dig?

The American/English language is an experimental language created to control and manipulate thoughts and keep people in a state of hypnosis. 

Magnets, how do they work?   Magick

February 15, 2019
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Who the fuck argues that love isn’t necessary? Love and sense of belonging is a huge cornerstone to any mentally healthy person. I guess you could split hairs on the definition of love…

Take it from someone whose father died before I was born, it fucking matters.

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Slumerican502 said
Who the fuck argues that love isn’t necessary? Love and sense of belonging is a huge cornerstone to any mentally healthy person. I guess you could split hairs on the definition of love…

Take it from someone whose father died before I was born, it fucking matters.  

Well … obviously me. I agree with you about love and sense of belonging being a cornerstone to mental health but I do not see it as definitively necessary from a survivalist standpoint. 

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Magnets, how do they work?   Magick  

I’ve never been too concerned with “how” they work. I am more into the question of “why” they work. Why did the universe form in a way where magnetism is a property? Since the property does seem to exist from our observation of the phenomenon, the “how” has been defined. Yes, our observation is limited by physical constraints in which we have explored the effect, but our definitions have, so far, been able to repeatedly and accurately describe all the “how”s. Maybe it is “Magick”. I won’t discount any possibility. I do lean away from such ideas as being an explanation, though.

February 15, 2019
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Sigh.

 

My mom was given up by her parents, whom were migrant workers but that’s all that she was told by those in charge. There is some law or statute that people in this country born before a certain year did not have to be legally supplied with all of their birth parent’s info. So to this day, her birth parents are a mystery. 

So my mother was put into a large room with a slew of other babies that were given up for adoption for one reason or another. I believe that my mother was put there because she eventually discovered that hers were just unfit parents…  either too destitute or perhaps addicts. It doesnt matter. All of these newborns were in these fucking rooms from the start. Waiting for an adoption that sometimes never came. 

This part of the story is where my mother explained the phrase “failure to thrive”. Here is what the internet says:

“Non-organic failure to thrive or psychosocial failure to thrive refers to failure to thrive in a child who is younger than 5 years age and has no known medical condition that causes poor growth. It is caused by emotional deprivation, child abuse. neglect or due to accident”

My mother later learned that DOZENS of her unloved baby peers would just physically GIVE UP. They would die. They would die. They would die. They would die. 

My mother began the stages of failure to thrive. She then was adopted by a wealthy family in upstate NY. They were far from perfect: the mother was emotionally abusive as well, but still loving enough to keep my mother alive. Her brother was also abusive. He just died three weeks ago, which is pretty great. 

Anyways, yeah. My mom is one of the lucky ones. She to this day has innumerable mental and physical health issues, much arguably caused by life start rougher than most of us could imagine. But the rich lady that adopted her did love her. She pulled my mom from the flames at the last second, so to speak. 

The homies Slum and Lucem and I dont really see eye to eye anymore on a lot of subjects. But the reason I respect them is because of shit like this. Common fucking sense and empathy. These guys and myself are still fucking human beings behind our faults. You two, Psyral and Krunk, are self-admitted “emotionless” and all that garbage you say about not feeling feelings. So you literally do not qualify as human beings to me. Not even worth an organ harvest. Who the fuck wants your tainted, hollow organs? May as well get a heart transplant from the BTK killer than y’all.

Fucking morons. 

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February 15, 2019
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Old Mr Dangerous said

I am fully aware of the many studies that show survival increases when a child is presented with love. I do completely agree with these studies but there is a difference between what is a necessity and what is beneficial. Many children who lived in loveless homes survive and some actually thrive. While that type of situation decreases their chances of survival it does not doom a child to death. 

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… So you literally do not qualify as human beings to me. …

There’s that word “literally” again. 

I’m not a grammar nazi, I prefer the term “alt-write”. lol

February 15, 2019
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We’re all jaded and emotionless for a while, Then we experience the horror show that is life and grow the fuck up. Well, Some of us. 

And while yes, Love might not be absolutely necessary to live there is much to be said about it’s ability to heal and make a person stronger. Finding someone to connect with, someone worth caring about and protecting, in turn makes you start giving a shit about yourself. It’s like a self preservation switch gets turned on in your brain. If for some reason it doesn’t, it’s a good sign that you may have brain damage. 

Like when people at a trump rally clap, cheer and go “Woo! That makes sense!” That’s a clear sign of brain damage because, no the fuck it didn’t. I don’t think he’s formed a coherent sentence in his life. 

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February 15, 2019
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David_Black said
We’re all jaded and emotionless for a while, Then we experience the horror show that is life and grow the fuck up. Well, Some of us. 
And while yes, Love might not be absolutely necessary to live there is much to be said about it’s ability to heal and make a person stronger. Finding someone to connect with, someone worth caring about and protecting, in turn makes you start giving a shit about yourself. It’s like a self preservation switch gets turned on in your brain. If for some reason it doesn’t, it’s a good sign that you may have brain damage. 
Like when people at a trump rally clap, cheer and go “Woo! That makes sense!” That’s a clear sign of brain damage because, no the fuck it didn’t. I don’t think he’s formed a coherent sentence in his life.   

Agree, it is beneficial to have love and belonging. 

About the trump thing. I see the same thing at anti-trump rallies too. I think it is an aspect of personal bias. I, being a trump supporter, like him and I see his opponents as not making any sense to me. People against trump see the opposite. An interesting thing to explore is the concept of r/k gene theory. It could explain the difference between liberals and conservatives on a genetic level. 

February 15, 2019
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Psyral Infection said

Agree, it is beneficial to have love and belonging. 

About the trump thing. I see the same thing at anti-trump rallies too. I think it is an aspect of personal bias. I, being a trump supporter, like him and I see his opponents as not making any sense to me. People against trump see the opposite. An interesting thing to explore is the concept of r/k gene theory. It could explain the difference between liberals and conservatives on a genetic level.   

There is no THEM vs US. You only see Dem and Republican. Lots of us are neither

 I lean on liberal for most issues because I care about other people besides myself and my own close ones, despite actually being disappointed by most everyone I’ve met. 

If you could step back and see the insanity of what Dobald Trump is, you would freak out and then run back to your own “safe space” with your buddies. Because I understand that. It’s more comfortable there. You have formed a place that you can feel secure and correct in your world view. I get that. It is cowardly, but not so simple to just leap out from. I get that. 

Sp go ahead and feel how you do. Just dont negate the importance of love, whether it is figurative or concrete in reality. It is important. And this is coming from a very sadistic, hateful man.

February 15, 2019
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I see it in dogs too. Ive seen a dog literally(lol Psyral) stop eating because it’s lifelong partner and buddy died.

Sometimes you’ll see an article about how when one old person dies often times the partner will die shortly after.

As far as survival, you need 4 things.

Food, Water, Oxygen, Sleep.

Nobody on this earth just wants to survive though. So companions really do matter unless you are a nihilist. Why else does everyone keep coming back to this board even when its not fun anymore and hasnt been in a minute? You gotta take conversations where you can get em.

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February 15, 2019
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Psyral Infection said

Agree, it is beneficial to have love and belonging. 

About the trump thing. I see the same thing at anti-trump rallies too. I think it is an aspect of personal bias. I, being a trump supporter, like him and I see his opponents as not making any sense to me. People against trump see the opposite. An interesting thing to explore is the concept of r/k gene theory. It could explain the difference between liberals and conservatives on a genetic level.   

How can I put this, I’m not pro or anti trump, I’m pro America and he is fucking it up. Since day one it’s been one moronic cluster fuck after another, lying all the time about everything even when he doesn’t need to, speaking with the sentence structure of of a cracked out 2nd grader and being an overall embarrassment to the country. Like holy shit, in terms of historical significance he may be the worst thing to happen to America since our ancestors decided slavery was a good idea. 

As for your gene theory bullshit spat out in pathetic effort to not seem mentally insignificant,
There are decent people who want to connect with, understand and protect their fellow human beings.
Then there are buzz word spewing imbeciles who seem consumed only with greed and what they can get out of life, looking for easy answers instead of truth, never facing reality, much more content to live a blissful lie where everything is magic and bad things only happen to bad people la la la la la tune out anything else, and love using fear to justify the theft of liberty. 

Then we factor in being part of a society where life, death and even freedom have a fucking price tag and wonder why we’re all going insane. 

February 15, 2019
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We’re Libertarian. It’s a simple concept. Ur vessel, ur rules, and FTFOMF.

And didn’t u claim to be method acting on here, Old Mr

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We ain’t playing. I suspect Ma$low was.

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February 15, 2019
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P.S.

Dear Mr. Ma$low,

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February 15, 2019
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Gue

krunkazphuk said
We’re Libertarian. It’s a simple concept. Ur vessel, ur rules, and FTFOMF.

And didn’t u claim to be method acting on here, Old Mr

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We ain’t playing. I suspect Ma$low was.  

Guess what? The coital cephalgia went away. I’m busting nuts hard and gooey. Be prepared.

I only method act for certain people.

Libertarians with sense do not support Trump. Lol. That is an oxymoron.

And like Slum said, even my two Male sugar gliders… once the one died after 9 years, the other one passed in less than a month from heartbreak. They were named Big Stank and Lil’ Poot.

I’m at work so I’ll chat later, sexies. 

February 15, 2019
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There is research proving that infants will literally die if they are not held enough or they don’t feel loved or connected. It stunts the growth hormone, the immune system and the infant’s body will shut down. Just because Trump is your president and he tries to do this all the time doesn’t mean you get to dismiss facts and research to fit your preexisting views.

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I see what Psyral is saying. You can have all the love in the world but when it comes to actual survival…dropped in the middle of a jungle survival, you can shove that love up your ass.

After reading back through I think there are two different arguments going on or just a misunderstanding of meaning.

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When Keanu Reeves said “You need to be happy to live, I don’t” I liked him more. Love’s the cherry on top for me, earned, not expected. Otherwise it’s just stale government cheese.

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Slumerican502 said
I see what Psyral is saying. You can have all the love in the world but when it comes to actual survival…dropped in the middle of a jungle survival, you can shove that love up your ass.

After reading back through I think there are two different arguments going on or just a misunderstanding of meaning.  

In adults, no, but it drastically effects the immune system and lowers the chances of survival. Dropped in the middle of a jungle all you have are memories and if your memories are of being loved then yes, it will have an effect on your chances of survival.

In infants it is literally needed for survival.

krunkazphuk said
When Keanu Reeves said “You need to be happy to live, I don’t” I liked him more. Love’s the cherry on top for me, earned, not expected. Otherwise it’s just stale government cheese.  

Wow, so edgy, but ultimately some of the cringiest goth boi fake deep bullshit I’ve heard. Extreme depression and mental health have a drastic effect on the immune system and organ functions. So everybody needs at least a glimmer of happiness for survival and I’m fairly sure Keanu, despite his tragic history, has that. 

Sad fact is that love or appreciation isn’t always earned and often times comes for superficial reasons. Nobody looks for love at a burn ward. So sorry to knock you off of your arrogant pedestal but I assure you that a lot of the affection you’ve received comes more from luck or chance rather than effort. Just as your position in life has more to do with the fact that you’re lucky to be born in a first world nation. I’m not preaching against the taking control of your life either, just stating the fact that some people would fail if put in other circumstances where they expect others to succeed from. One of the most annoying things that comes from right wing ideals is the extreme Dunning-Kruger effect they seem to have.

February 15, 2019
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Chime in from the peanut gallery/i wanna join the adult table.

I totally agree about the baby thing. I believe ive read also something along the lines also of babies needing nurturing to survive. 

Simply asking…

Does one not have to love him/herself or another to accept ‘survival mode’?

Tom Hanks in cast away could have just said fuck it at any point in the movie. 

Its very easy to underestimate the guy on the other end of a keystroke.

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