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April 30, 2019
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American culture is many things, much of it a complete clusterfuck due to a government that values corporate profits over literally everything else. The people who run this country DO NOT GIVE A SINGLE FUCK about the well being of the average american. All they want is for you to give them a cut of the money you've earned so they can buy more military shit that we don't need.  Fuck fixing roads and bridges, fuck education, fuck healthcare, PAY YOUR TAXES OR GO TO PRISON!
Ya know, unless you're the head of a corporation, then you don't have to pay a single dime in taxes because you're special. 
Wooo Merica! 
As for the elderly here, Yeah, I'm kind of amazed how many elderly people work at grocery stores. It's sad but I get it because it's either work to death or just die. For most there is no in between.   

THIS.

The thing that gets me is that it's so blatant and people still refuse to see the writing on the wall.

They will rebuttal with, 'But these corporations are creating Jooooobs, so they should have certain exemptions, Just look at the unemployment rate.'

BUT

Most of the jobs created are meaningless sub poverty wage jobs, so it's a quantity over quality game here.

Most of the unemployment statistics come from people using unemployment benefits, I.E. layoffs. So if you were fired or let go, you do not qualify for that benefit and are really not showing up in that statistic in the first place. It's all a numbers game that can be manipulated.

All these right to work states, like mine, have a much higher number of unemployed people than what's reported.

Keep seeing the bullshit for what it is and calling it out David.

Salute big homie.

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Also, this is a completely different topic, but I don't believe in free will.  

My man!

I mean, it's impossible to prove whether or not free will exists since we can't measure it.

It's also possible that free will can be limited.

I can also argue that free will is the fact that we our conscious of what we do OR free will is the fact that we don't just react to the past but we react in contemplation of the future.

Either why, neuroscience is on your side.

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I know people always think it's a pessimistic view, or that it's just cold nihilism, but honestly I think understanding the lack of 'free will' is important in psychology and it only makes me realize how much my actions matter when they can have such a huge impact. Whether or not I had a choice to do what I am going to do or if it's destiny.

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Karacalla said

THIS.

The thing that gets me is that it's so blatant and people still refuse to see the writing on the wall.

They will rebuttal with, 'But these corporations are creating Jooooobs, so they should have certain exemptions, Just look at the unemployment rate.'

BUT

Most of the jobs created are meaningless sub poverty wage jobs, so it's a quantity over quality game here.

Most of the unemployment statistics come from people using unemployment benefits, I.E. layoffs. So if you were fired or let go, you do not qualify for that benefit and are really not showing up in that statistic in the first place. It's all a numbers game that can be manipulated.

All these right to work states, like mine, have a much higher number of unemployed people than what's reported.

Keep seeing the bullshit for what it is and calling it out David.

Salute big homie.  

That's good to know.

My rebuttal to these corporations giving us jobs is that the jobs they are giving aren't paying us enough to live. That's why my generation is filled with adults that work full time labor jobs yet still live with their parents or room mates. They lied about trickle down economics, they lied about job security, they lied when they said we'd be working 20 hour work weeks for the same pay when automation was introduced. We need to quit kissing the asses of the people that screw us over time and time again. Whether it's socialism or finding new industries or forcing these greedy corporate giants to treat us like human beings, we need a change and I just don't particularly have the answers for it.

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Sounds like a bunch of Bernie Sanders supporters in this thread.

 

And don't be silly, Lucem. We have a back-up plan. Our back-up plan is Double down and blame the loss of jobs on the other side of the government and immigrants instead of actually telling people the uncomfortable truths that they don't want to hear.

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Pigg said
...Double down and blame the loss of jobs on the other side of the government and immigrants instead of actually telling people the uncomfortable truths that they don't want to hear.  

Truths like "socialism always ends in starvation & genocide" and "life is a job"? Or how about some ageless wisdom for the Bernie Bros still chasing around that crazy old union shill in his 

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I'm 29 and don't have a problem making it ...works there if u wanna work. And I hang/finish drywall, all piece rate. Get paid for wat u do ....so it's up to u. 

And just cause it bothered me lol...calla, the drywall on ceilings isn't thinner it's thicker. Normally go 5/8 on ceilings and 1/2" on walls. Using half inch or anything thinner on ceilings causes sag over time unless everything's set on 12" center....And it rarely is

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Pigg said
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Also, this is a completely different topic, but I don't believe in free will.  

It could all be that we are watching a movie... well, more like experiencing a movie with each one of us sitting in the consciousness of one of the "characters" in this movie from life to death. We experience the "choices" we make thinking that we came to each choice through our own will but in actuality, we are just living through the movie playing out. The outcome is set and every decision already made. Even if you think you can try to change the predestined script, that thought was always going to be an element in the movie for you and occurring at the exact time that you think you thought it up yourself.

What is the purpose of this movie? Is it a lesson? Is it a prison? 

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I'm down as long as it's not another infomercial for indoor scripted "reality". (Talking to u, Kanye.)

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Psyral Infection said

Pigg said
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Also, this is a completely different topic, but I don't believe in free will.  

It could all be that we are watching a movie... well, more like experiencing a movie with each one of us sitting in the consciousness of one of the "characters" in this movie from life to death. We experience the "choices" we make thinking that we came to each choice through our own will but in actuality, we are just living through the movie playing out. The outcome is set and every decision already made. Even if you think you can try to change the predestined script, that thought was always going to be an element in the movie for you and occurring at the exact time that you think you thought it up yourself.

What is the purpose of this movie? Is it a lesson? Is it a prison?   

On some Vanilla Sky type shit, only every choice has been made for you.

Chuckieboy said
I'm 29 and don't have a problem making it ...works there if u wanna work. And I hang/finish drywall, all piece rate. Get paid for wat u do ....so it's up to u. 

And just cause it bothered me lol...calla, the drywall on ceilings isn't thinner it's thicker. Normally go 5/8 on ceilings and 1/2" on walls. Using half inch or anything thinner on ceilings causes sag over time unless everything's set on 12" center....And it rarely is  

Working for yourself is a great, you have no one controlling you and at the end of the day, for better or worse, you only have yourself to blame.

The real argument is for everyone else who works under a W2. The quality of work and inequality of pay versus the CEO's and stockholders profits.

How through inflation a gallon of milk has went up 4+ dollars since the late 80's, but the Minimum wage, which basically sets all pay scales, hasn't risen to reflect and counter that inflation.

So when these idiots say, 'Fast food worker's want fifteen dollars an hour, lol, get a real job..' they never stop to think, well, if those people are getting fucked in pay, How much should YOU

(with the 'real job')

actually be making, because once again, Minimum wage sets ALL payscales from the bottom up.

 Only now are we starting to see any kind of real changes. People shouldn't have to rally and riot to get these issues to the forefront of the media, So that tells me who is bought and paid for AND by who.

And dude if your ceilings are sagging it could be from many things such as the popcorn or texture weight or the 16 or 24 inch space differences in the joists/studs.

Most people use lighter sheetrock overhead to avoid the hassle of deadlifting that shit into place. I actually spray foamed my attic for insulation so a thermal barrier through sheetrock thickness, lol, never was an issue.

So for arguments sake, I'll agree to disagree.

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Karacalla said
How through inflation a gallon of milk has went up 4+ dollars since the late 80's, but the Minimum wage, which basically sets all pay scales, hasn't risen to reflect and counter that inflation.

You should start buying milk at wal-mart, it's $1.50 a gallon.

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well looks like Pigg and Bozo are the new mods

congrats to both of you

but the dickless Scott still has the s-words tongue up his ass and refuses to remove his name from that spot

it's ok what do you expect from a guy that has Will Sigler on speed dial 

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Fix the money, not the wages.

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The Federal Reserve killed our money when they moved us from Commodity-Backed currency to Fiat-Backed currency.

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The Federal Reserve ... The name for the system that is not part of federal government and has no reserves. They don't need reserves. They print money that is then "loaned" to the banks with immediate interest on said amount which can only be paid with the money from that same system that is printed with its inherited debt.

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minimum wage increases by 50 cents tomorrow in Quebec

so minimum wage will be $12.50 an hour starting tomorrow and I know that Canadian Money is not worth as much American money but I am still pretty sure minimum wage here is more than America even with the difference

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To this day im still disappointed the large amount of people on this forum who werent more pissed off about the sigler shit.

I tried to joke about it at first but the more I thought about it the more it pissed me off. It was definitely the proverbial straw for me as far as this movement goes.

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and nobody noticed the the URL of the website that exposed Sigler was juggalomarch.com the same URL that Psychopathic used to promote the march in Washington a few months later.

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Psyral Infection said

Pigg said
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Also, this is a completely different topic, but I don't believe in free will.  

It could all be that we are watching a movie... well, more like experiencing a movie with each one of us sitting in the consciousness of one of the "characters" in this movie from life to death. We experience the "choices" we make thinking that we came to each choice through our own will but in actuality, we are just living through the movie playing out. The outcome is set and every decision already made. Even if you think you can try to change the predestined script, that thought was always going to be an element in the movie for you and occurring at the exact time that you think you thought it up yourself.

What is the purpose of this movie? Is it a lesson? Is it a prison?   

Eat a handfull of mushrooms, take a high dose of acid, eat some peyote, smoke some DMT, Then realize that this is life, it's real, it's complete shit and no one is doing anything about it.

Think about all the horrible shit that we as a society should genuinely feel full of sorrow about and change.....but we shrug it off because new day means new story which we somehow treat as if the injustice of the days before never happened. 

Mass shooting, Eh. 
Another unarmed black person murdered by a cop, Yawn. 
Shipping container owned by member of congress found stuffed with cocaine, Fake news. 
City's drinking water completely fucked and or flammable, What else is on? 
People legitimately think the earth is flat, eh they might be right. 
One fucking family turning a vast population of the country into helpless drug addicts, I think I want pizza tonight.  

What the fuck is wrong with us?!
Ooooh right, We've been mentally manipulated in every possible way since the day we were born by advertising companies that make men feel like shit if they don't have a completely unnatural body and a twelve inch dick that never stops. Meanwhile it makes women feel as if they NEED blond hair and D cups to matter as a person at all and even then, only as a trophy. Like holy fuck we have destroyed women and we wonder why feminists are always pissed off.
Then you look at the way companies interact with the government to work AGAINST the better interests of the population in order to make a profit......and all of this bullshit doesn't even scratch the surface of our problems or the cause and effect of living in a society raised on lies. What we were told life is supposed to be, Is not what life actually is. 

Now stop being stupid and accept that in spite of our minds being fucked with every day, This IS reality. 
You may not have the power to change the world, but you can still change your world.
Live your life for you, Not your country, Not your sports team, Not your church, Not your gender, Not your political views, YOU. 

I intend to die with a "Fuck it, I tried and I had fun, I win" mentality. 

Also sorry I've been so ranty lately. Life. 

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David_Black said

Eat a handfull of mushrooms, take a high dose of acid, eat some peyote, smoke some DMT, Then realize that this is life, it's real, it's complete shit and no one is doing anything about it. ...

I've done those things but my trips have always been positive, inspiring, and full of happiness. I've never understood how people have bad trips or even ones where they see anything in a negative light. Maybe it's just the way my brain works during those times.

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David_Black said
...You may not have the power to change the world, but you can still change your world...

Fuck yeah u can. After Hogrock's 2013 GOTJ Psyral, our daughter, & I lived in a tent for a few to recreate our lives away from an insane hoarder (insert relative here). Brutal is an understatement, but we're MUCH healthier now and have never looked back. Rooting for u, Mr. Black.

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David_Black said
Eat a handfull of mushrooms, take a high dose of acid, eat some peyote, smoke some DMT, Then realize that this is life, it's real, it's complete shit and no one is doing anything about it. ...

I've done those things but my trips have always been positive, inspiring, and full of happiness. I've never understood how people have bad trips or even ones where they see anything in a negative light. Maybe it's just the way my brain works during those times.  

Mr. Psyral, im shocked. I thought you were a rule follower guy to the 'T'. I should have known by the hair.

Does inflation normally occur before min wage increase? I kind of think everything just moves up gradually. Were still basically making the 40 cents an hour with milk costing a nickel of yesteryear?

Ive been reading about cutting coins for work. Not to make money but to deface it. I read about penny presses and the amount of actual valuable copper in them. Older coins had more copper and were softer, the recipe changed at some point. Not to mention, tell me it wouldnt be cool as hell to have a Milenko head on a quarter? Our currency is getting cheaper to make. We actually lose money on the penny. They may become obsolete as trump has said. How am i gonna get change back from $4.99 though?

Sorry folks adding to bits and pieces here.

If McDonald's employees suddenly started making $15 hourly then id expect my pay to jump drastically as well.

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Does feeling like you died and are trapped in an eternal time loop, never to break free, completely losing your mind count as a bad trip? If so, I can see how someone can have a bad trip.  

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