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So if Juggalos will never forgive or support Twiztid again...
January 29, 2018
10:13 pm
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vinyllover said

The final nail in the coffin for a lot of Juggalos was the shitty attitude and hate that was spewed by Madrox that was recorded at a meet and greet because of how inaccurate the criticisms were

They said there is no “gang list.” I agree for reasons already stated going back to page one; especially this post  

No, you’ve totally missed the point of what I was talking about. It wasn’t just about him saying there was no gang list. He said a lot of other inaccurate and surprisingly stupid things about Thy Unveiling, Slow Your Roll and ICP being hypocritical for signing Boondox and you might not understand why that isn’t cool, but Juggalos who know their history do.

It exposed Madrox as a petty hater with an ungrateful attitude which was really surprising seeing as how he was only vocal about the subject in the past by yelling at people for even suggesting that there was beef between Twiztid and ICP. So it looks like he was lying about that as well for whatever reason.

It’s disappointing as a long time fan of ICP and Twiztid.

January 29, 2018
11:08 pm
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Saying the Carnival was God on Shangri-La was stupid. I was a little let down when I first heard it. It didn’t make sense to me because it was actually the Joker Cards, rather different spirits of the DARK Carnival judging the souls of mankind and deciding who gets to paradise or who suffers. When did the Dark Carnival become just the Carnival?

As for the Supavillans song, I really doubt Jamie never heard that song. All those guys participated on the fucking album. You’re telling me you go in, do your bit, leave and don’t check the entire cd out and listen to it when it comes out? I thought that was a bit silly. Sure enough, Esham confirmed Jamie and Paul knew about that song.

As for the Boondox thing, ICP did not throw a down home southern cowboy dummy into the crowd to tear up. It represented southern rednecks and their racism. Boondox is not that. Difference.

January 29, 2018
11:59 pm
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The Duke is strung out on opioids.

Only the most desperate,fringe underground rappers are rolling with him now.

I mean, Joe can barely put together a coherent sentence these days with that opioid mouth…..

 

☕ 

January 30, 2018
1:33 am
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vinyllover said
Saying the Carnival was God on Shangri-La was stupid. I was a little let down when I first heard it. It didn’t make sense to me because it was actually the Joker Cards, rather different spirits of the DARK Carnival judging the souls of mankind and deciding who gets to paradise or who suffers. When did the Dark Carnival become just the Carnival?

As for the Supavillans song, I really doubt Jamie never heard that song. All those guys participated on the fucking album. You’re telling me you go in, do your bit, leave and don’t check the entire cd out and listen to it when it comes out? I thought that was a bit silly. Sure enough, Esham confirmed Jamie and Paul knew about that song.
As for the Boondox thing, ICP did not throw a down home southern cowboy dummy into the crowd to tear up. It represented southern rednecks and their racism. Boondox is not that. Difference.  

There are many hints and clues about God being the real power behind Joker’s Cards, reverse messages in some tracks and things written it the booklets. I was still surprised when I first heard it when I was 21 and it’s made more and more sense to me the older I’ve become. I think it’s a great message and far from stupid but each to their own, makes a lot of sense if you like Twiztid and Horrorcore artists over ICP…

ICP use the wicked shit in the Joker’s Cards as an example of evil things to avoid in your life not to glorify doing nasty shit to people as if that’s cool. For the record, Juggalos who like ICP over Twiztid but still like both of them are my kind of ninjas.

The situation with Boondox is also a case where ICP already had the gimmick for themselves as a new group called The Bloody Brothers, then decided to give the gimmick to Turncoat Dirty when they signed him. So Madrox’s opinion that it is hypocritical of them because of ICP’s outspoken stance on racists from the South is stupid because they came up with the gimmick for themselves and it’s a gimmick about a supernatural scarecrow not a racist bigot from the South.

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January 30, 2018
5:28 am
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I could have seen Twiztid carrying the Psycopathic torch so much further than the current roster would for either group. They seemed cool AF in the movies, collabs, and as openers. I honestly just havent given them enough of a chance to be their own men. 

Yeah bitches, im that short gentleman mentioned in that youtube video.

And the very nice, level headed guy from that other youtube video.

January 30, 2018
6:52 am
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Drunkalo said
I could have seen Twiztid carrying the Psycopathic torch so much further than the current roster would for either group. They seemed cool AF in the movies, collabs, and as openers. I honestly just havent given them enough of a chance to be their own men.   

Honestly, I figured that was the plan for YW. Twiztid were basically the same age as ICP and typically the “torch” gets passed to someone younger. That being said, Twiztid saw the writing on the wall. They were never getting that torch.

January 31, 2018
6:40 pm
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If my friend told me he was spending most of his time chilling with a posse of insane clowns for over 20 years and that he was on strung out on opiates, I’m pretty sure my first word wouldn’t be “OPIATES!?!!!!?” 

February 1, 2018
1:46 am
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Chuck Reeves on the Rose Glen podcast mentions the march just after 31 minutes hit. Time stamp provided. Just hit play.

Watch the whole thing to see how before 31 minutes, Twiztid got fucked over regarding Dark Lotus rights and percentages of profit.

February 1, 2018
9:04 am
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Vinyl, here’s my question for you:

 

Why do you think the ACLU agreed to help with the case?

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February 1, 2018
6:11 pm
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Because their lawyers were just as fucking stupid as Joseph Bruce and all those other co plaintiff Juggalos. Go through the paperwork. Read what the judges said. Listen to the court audio.

Page one. Post #2.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/foru…..n/#p204196

Page one. Post #3.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/foru…..n/#p204197

February 1, 2018
8:01 pm
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okay, so, everybody but you has to explain themselves ad absurdum…  

but you just say, ‘cuz theyre dumb!’, and that extra-soft explanation is sposed to fly?  

  

youre game sucks, chuck.  find one that means shit.  

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February 1, 2018
8:28 pm
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vinyllover said
Because their lawyers were just as fucking stupid as Joseph Bruce and all those other co plaintiff Juggalos. Go through the paperwork. Read what the judges said. Listen to the court audio.
Page one. Post #2.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/foru…..n/#p204196

Page one. Post #3.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/foru…..204197  

Nobody is going to click on those links 

And u aint got no bitches bruh

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February 1, 2018
9:08 pm
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Right on time, the blind followers of Joe Bruce, the 17%rs make themselves known.

but you just say, ‘cuz theyre dumb!’, and that extra-soft explanation is sposed to fly?

I didn’t JUST say ‘cuz there dumb!’ and leave it at that. I said they were fucking stupid and then I proceeded to remind people of all the facts and evidence that show WHY. I don’t expect people to just believe ME. I expect people to read the documents and listen to the audio I have and form an opinion instead of sucking Joe Bruce’s dick and CPN’s dick.

It has been five pages now and nobody has been able to refute the evidence I have gathered on page one. So can we all stop hating Twiztid for the march and the fucking fake gang list? Because it’s based on a bunch of misinformation! Hating for the wrong reasons is tearing the Juggalo world apart. I don’t like seeing it.

February 1, 2018
9:15 pm
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vinyllover said
Right on time, the blind followers of Joe Bruce, the 17%rs make themselves known.

but you just say, ‘cuz theyre dumb!’, and that extra-soft explanation is sposed to fly?

I didn’t JUST say ‘cuz there dumb!’ I said they’re dumb. Then I gave to links to basically say “here’s why.”
It has been five pages now and nobody has been able to refute the evidence I have gathered on page one. So can we all stop hating Twiztid for the march and the fucking fake gang list? Because it’s based on a bunch of misinformation! Hating for the wrong reasons is tearing the Juggalo world apart. I don’t like seeing it.  

How u talkin shit when u ain’t got no bitches bruh

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February 1, 2018
9:23 pm
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How u talkin shit when u ain’t got no bitches bruh

lol

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February 1, 2018
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vinyllover said    
Right on time, the blind followers of Joe Bruce, the 17%rs make themselves known.      

what did i say that has fuckall to do with joe bruce or some fuckin internet yacker?  

… I expect people to read the documents and listen to the audio I have and form an opinion instead of sucking Joe Bruce’s dick and CPN’s dick.    

you can expect whatever you want, dont mean youre gonna get it.  none of us works for you.  

and seriously, you really think we are ignorant enough to believe that those are the only two options?  wake up.  

… It has been five pages now and nobody has been able to refute the evidence I have gathered on page one. So can we all stop hating Twiztid for the march and the fucking fake gang list? …

who exactly is it that is hating twiztid for the march?  point them out.  

cuz i think the real problem is that you cant have the argument you wanna have.  well, get over it.  dont start inventing stories about me.  

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February 1, 2018
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Lol no i got mines boooy

And yet u still aint got no bitches bruuuh 😂😂

Ill click on ur link if it has ur bitch on it.

U know all in the name of discussion of course.

This is a forum

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February 1, 2018
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Pigg said
Vinyl, here’s my question for you:

 

Why do you think the ACLU agreed to help with the case?  

Here’s my question for you:

Why do you put so much faith into the ACLU?

February 1, 2018
10:34 pm
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vinyllover said
BLAH BLAH BLAH juggalos BLAH BLAH BLAH 17% BLAHZAY BLAH…. instead of sucking Joe Bruce’s dick and CPN’s dick.

Its soooo fuckin funny that this retard, eh hem, soulless autistic child believes that the people of the forum actually watch CPNhammer

February 1, 2018
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I didn’t realize you spoke for all people on this board. lol Well I have watched his videos, but only to critique them when necessary.

If people here are really going to deny they get their ideas to hate Twiztid for the march and the gang list from CPN, then where the hell do they get it from? Somewhere else? Joe Bruce? The television? A couple of newspaper or internet articles? Where indeed? And why is it apparently better sourced than what I have on page one? Why can’t we all just be honest and serious instead of overly comedic when talking about Twiztid and allegedly good reasons to hate them? Because the march and the “gang list” isn’t one as far as I can tell – and nobody has been able to contradict me or prove me wrong yet. DCFaygoGuy’s video for reasons to hate Twiztid was a joke. Hating the Majik Ninja reissues of old Psychopathic albums because they don’t have a hatchet man on them? HAHAHAHAHA!

 
I hate seeing this division in the juggalo world. I see it as unnecessary and resting on the false premises that Twiztid betrayed Juggalos not marching and that they are apparently denying some spooky bugaboo “gang list” to cover their ass. By correcting these false premises, by calling out ignorant youtubers like CPN for spreading misinformation, and by getting Juggalos to reassess their CPN/Joe Bruce influenced beliefs, perhaps some healing and reconciliation can begin. Not just between the divided fans, but perhaps Twiztid and ICP as well.
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