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So if Juggalos will never forgive or support Twiztid again...
February 1, 2018
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vinyllover said
I didn’t realize you spoke for all people on this board. lol

but before that, vinyllover said
Right on time, the blind followers of Joe Bruce, the 17%rs make themselves known.

uh huh.  and i didnt realize you speak for me.  

hey, know what?  you fuckin dont.  

try and remember.  

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February 1, 2018
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King Lucem Ferre said

Here’s my question for you:

Why do you put so much faith into the ACLU?  

If my choice is between them, CPN, Chuck Reeves, and Joe Bruce, I am going to put my faith in the ACLU every time. At least on a legal matter like this.

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February 1, 2018
11:13 pm
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Pigg said    
If my choice is between them, CPN, Chuck Reeves, and Joe Bruce, I am going to put my faith in the ACLU every time. At least on a legal matter like this.     

good point. 

although, if those were my choices, id represent myself, fo sho.  

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February 1, 2018
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If the ACLU offered to represent you for free, you’d rather represent yourself?

February 2, 2018
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Scruffy’s attempt to paint me as a hypocrite with a short memory fails because these are his words on page one.

even if this was a legit inquiry, and i doubt

In other words, he spoke for himself. And everything I put together on page one is incorrect and he can prove why. But he just won’t do it. lol

That is why I call him a 17%r. I’m sure he likes to believe his disagreement with everything I said on page one could come not necessarily from Joe Bruce, but from anywhere like a few television segments or magazine articles. And where does all those other sources lead back to? Who do the articles always mention? Violent J. The man Joe Bruce himself who first made a stink to the media and the Juggalos and got them all whipped up. So even if Scruffy wanted to claim he reached his anti Twiztid views about the march and the gang list on his own, it would be disingenuous since Joe Bruce is the origin of this whole shit storm. The point is, him hating Twiztid for the march and the “gang list” makes him a 17%r. Well, that and the fact that he can’t or won’t take some time to read and do serious research. He has had five pages to expose any mistake I may have made. He has not. NOBODY HAS. Which brings me back to my original point:

I hate seeing this division in the juggalo world. I see it as unnecessary and resting on the false premises that Twiztid betrayed Juggalos not marching and that they are apparently denying some spooky bugaboo “gang list” to cover their ass. By correcting these false premises, by calling out ignorant youtubers like CPN for spreading misinformation, and by getting Juggalos to reassess their CPN/Joe Bruce influenced beliefs, perhaps some healing and reconciliation can begin. Not just between the divided fans, but perhaps Twiztid and ICP as well.

February 2, 2018
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vinyllover said

I hate seeing this division in the juggalo world.

Then shut up.  People like you are the reason that the division between fans is still going on.  Oh no, I didn’t prove you wrong.  It doesn’t matter if you’re right or wrong.  It matters that your mouth and fingers won’t stop moving regarding inane bullshit that most people are willing to let go.

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February 2, 2018
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said

vinyllover said
I hate seeing this division in the juggalo world.

Then shut up.  

There… it… is…

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February 2, 2018
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Carnivalkilla44 said

There… it… is…  

I HATE using that fuckin’ “Whoop/Like” button none of us wanted in the first place but was installed anyway but….

There it is.

Spoken and replied to. The beginning and end of all arguments around here.

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(I promise to slam my fingers in a door for using internet “slang” but)

“OMG”, those posts are the SHIT! Epic!

 

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February 2, 2018
11:14 am
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scruffy said    
uh huh.  and i didnt realize you speak for me.   
hey, know what?  you fuckin dont.   
try and remember.       

vinyllover, who completely failed to remember, then immediately said     
Scruffy’s attempt to paint me as a hypocrite with a short memory fails because these are his words on page one.     

even if this was a legit inquiry, and i doubt   

In other words, he spoke for himself. And everything I put together on page one is incorrect and he can prove why. But he just won’t do it.

That is why I call him a 17%r. I’m sure he likes to believe his disagreement with everything I said on page one could come not necessarily from Joe Bruce, but from anywhere like a few television segments or magazine articles. And where does all those other sources lead back to? Who do the articles always mention? Violent J. The man Joe Bruce himself who first made a stink to the media and the Juggalos and got them all whipped up. So even if Scruffy wanted to claim he reached his anti Twiztid views about the march and the gang list on his own, it would be disingenuous since Joe Bruce is the origin of this whole shit storm. The point is, him hating Twiztid for the march and the “gang list” makes him a 17%r. Well, that and the fact that he can’t or won’t take some time to read and do serious research. He has had five pages to expose any mistake I may have made. He has not. NOBODY HAS.   

@vinyllover 

you know damn well you made that shit up just to be an ass.  

want me to start tellin everybody what you think?  i cant, of course, but i can surely lie about it better than you.  they would be more likely to buy it, too.  

oh, and, if your gonna quote me, put up the whole quote.  dont leave off the part that mattered.  just so that the reader doesnt have to go back and check, i will assist:

what scruffy actually said was      
even if this was a legit inquiry, and i doubt, you aint got any particular right to an explanation.  
chuck.       

  

vinyllover then followed up with [yet again]  
Which brings me back to my original point:  
I hate seeing this division in the juggalo world.     

bull fuckin shit.  massive bullshit.  pure, unadulterated, lyin ass bullshit.  

not only was that not your original point, but division in the juggalo world is your whole goal here

i dont even need to ‘prove’ it, its fuckin obvious.  

  

in case you havent noticed, your dumbass crusade is becoming a problem.  

no one even wants to ‘prove’ shit to you.  they know its a waste of time, cuz you aint ever gonna listen either way. 

but if you start makin shit personal, you will eat the pill.  my advice, back off.  

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February 2, 2018
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And yet he still has not been able to dispute with any credible evidence, that he infact has no bitches bruh

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February 2, 2018
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Wow.

@vinyllover  maybe instead just try implying/straight up stating that someone’s a Nazi? Those non-personal, friendly posts never seem to be on the mods’ radar.

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February 2, 2018
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Yeah with krunk on ur side ur totally going to defeat us.

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February 2, 2018
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said to vinyl

Then shut up.  People like you are the reason that the division between fans is still going on.

Shut yer piehole.

Vinyl posts well thought out and researched posts. 

This thread is the only new one to take flight in the last week or so.

I’d much rather read his takes then check out the shitty music Warlock and Lucem constantly spam the forum with….

Scruffy said to vinyl

in case you havent noticed, your dumbass crusade is becoming a problem.  
but if you start makin shit personal, you will eat the pill.  my advice, back off.   

Shove that pill up your fuckin ass.

 

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February 2, 2018
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we know your stance miklo.  

‘oppose scruffy no matter what.’  

  

spose maybe i was a lil harsh.  sticks in my craw when people make up bullshit and try to attribute it to me.  

  

actually, now im fairly certain that vinyl namedropped me on purpose just to get some extra posts.  sure got your attention in a hurry.  

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February 2, 2018
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oh, and, if your gonna quote me, put up the whole quote.  dont leave off the part that mattered.  just so that the reader doesnt have to go back and check, i will assist:

what scruffy actually said was      
even if this was a legit inquiry, and i doubt, you aint got any particular right to an explanation.  
chuck.       

You still think I’m Chuck based on no evidence. That’s funny considering I sided with CPN’s stance on the Will Sigler issue. You say I don’t have a right to challenge people’s beliefs. Philosophically, yes I do, if they’re gonna proclaim them publicly and expect me to take them seriously while I disagree. You still said my inquiry was not legitimate. Which MEANS that you DISAGREE with everything I said on page one. THAT is why I call you a blind 17%r who thinks Twiztid is wrong but can’t or won’t prove it. Fine. Sit in the corner and sulk away with your hurt feelings. Doesn’t mean you’re correct about me being wrong on all those points on page one.

I hate seeing this division in the juggalo world.

bull fuckin shit.  massive bullshit.  pure, unadulterated, lyin ass bullshit.  

not only was that not your original point, but division in the juggalo world is your whole goal here

i dont even need to ‘prove’ it, its fuckin obvious.  

Yeah, sure it is. That’s why other Juggalos agree with me. That’s why at least one Juggalo named Lilej2 in the comments section on THIS PAGE said I needed to post my information far and wide. That’s why another named Robocop thanked me for taking the time to break it down and that I sounded like a lawyer. If you’re mad that others believe my arguments on page one, just get over it, stop taking it personally and show me where I’m wrong. If you can, I will change my mind. Hell, I changed my mind on the Sigler thing. So clearly I just want the best arguments and evidence available to me. If you have nothing to offer, then fine. But maybe you should not be the hypocrite here and you should stop cutting me off with short quote tags. Here is what I said after I said I hate seeing division in the Juggalo world…

I see it as unnecessary and resting on the false premises that Twiztid betrayed Juggalos not marching and that they are apparently denying some spooky bugaboo “gang list” to cover their ass. By correcting these false premises, by calling out ignorant youtubers like CPN for spreading misinformation, and by getting Juggalos to reassess their CPN/Joe Bruce influenced beliefs, perhaps some healing and reconciliation can begin. Not just between the divided fans, but perhaps Twiztid and ICP as well.

If you don’t want to challenge my points on page one, then fine. But it’s clear I have rattled you since page one. So that tells me you DO believe that Twiztid is wrong about their stance and that therefore I am wrong on page one for backing it up. So instead of whining like a child, find some better arguments or evidence. If I’m wrong and you can prove why, it shouldn’t be too difficult now  should it?

no one even wants to ‘prove’ shit to you.  they know its a waste of time, cuz you aint ever gonna listen either way. 

I have been asking for six pages for evidence. Obviously I’m willing to listen. So you’re lie that I won’t listen to anything, is just another reason to excuse yourself from having to prove your case that I went wrong somewhere on page one. You won’t prove me wrong on page one, and nobody else will yet. I merely SUSPECT it is because they can’t. But six pages in, I’m still willing to give anybody a chance.

February 2, 2018
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vinyllover said
I have been asking for six pages for evidence. Obviously I’m willing to listen. So you’re lie that I won’t listen to anything, is just another reason to excuse yourself from having to prove your case that I went wrong somewhere on page one. You won’t prove me wrong on page one, and nobody else will yet. I merely SUSPECT it is because they can’t. But six pages in, I’m still willing to give anybody a chance.  

Obviously your NOT listening, you are just doing a lame job at trolling and these smart FLH ninjas can see thru your bullshit…i can tell you that some of us have disliked twizzler since before 2016, but since your argument revolves around the march, you just push our opinons to the side because you WANT to believe the march is what sparked the “bad press” towards twizzler.

I member a bunch of us didnt even go to twizzlers set at gotj 2016, and thats way before the young wiggler debacle that was shortly followed by the announcement of mne not attending the march…..sorry and shit

Its so funny that you are really trying your best to drag people into your division tactics, especially by assuming the active members here actually watch those drama mongering youtubers.

Life lesson for you: you can NOT change people, so stop your fake crusade of fake justice for a fake cause that only exists in your head…you cant see what your not looking for.

Claiming your open minded, constantly, doesnt mean its true, and is definitely not making anyone believe you more.

Now be a good leprechaun and go search for your pot of gold on facebook, chuck

February 2, 2018
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i can tell you that some of us have disliked twizzler since before 2016, but since your argument revolves around the march, you just push our opinons to the side because you WANT to believe the march is what sparked the “bad press” towards twizzler.

It’s almost like I knew this and therefore you are wrong in your assessment of me. At the bottom of my post at the bottom of page one.

I don’t support Twiztid because I don’t like the direction their music is going.

Fair enough.

See? I admit there are other reasons.

I member a bunch of us didnt even go to twizzlers set at gotj 2016, and thats way before the young wiggler debacle that was shortly followed by the announcement of mne not attending the march

And what were the reasons if not as some people say, the direction their music is going? I am curious.

February 2, 2018
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vinyllover said
If you’re mad that others believe my arguments on page one, just get over it, stop taking it personally and show me where I’m wrong. If you can, I will change my mind.

You claim you’re listening.  You’re not.  If you were listening, you would know that people don’t want to change your mind.  Your opinion is what it is.  You’ve stated it at least 314 times.  Why do you want people to change your opinion.

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Pigg said

If my choice is between them, CPN, Chuck Reeves, and Joe Bruce, I am going to put my faith in the ACLU every time. At least on a legal matter like this.  

It’s not about putting faith into anybody. You can look into it yourself. I don’t put faith in the ACLU just because they portray themselves as competent. If you’ve ever worked for several different companies, production, call centers, places like that, or even paid attention to our government and it’s history, you’d realize just how incompetent collectives can be. So don’t put blind faith into any of these people, just look into it yourself. I did, and I came to the same conclusion he did with out ever watching a lame ass Chuck Reeves video. Because who the fuck is Chuck Reeves and why should I care about his opinion?

February 3, 2018
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I feel like most of yall don’t listen to what Vinyl says, personally. My two cents. Some of yall have been shit talking him for no reason because he cares about stupid ass youtubers.

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