There should only be three moderators - PunkRockJuggalo, Psyral, and Ganja.

The other two moderators have lost almost all credibility in many forum member's eyes...

LuckyNumbrXIII said
I was thinking on this myself.  How about having the forums:

Psy

MNE

Strange

et al.

 

With moderation.  

 

And on the top of the forums, there's a zero censorship board.  You can post anything.  For example, in the regular forums, you can have "The official Young Wicked - Slaughter thread."  Then if someone wants they can make a post in the zero censorship board... "The official uncensored Young Wicked - Slaughter thread" and you can go in there and talk about how violent J rapes everyone on Psychopathic Records and all that shit.  

 

But in the regular forums, you just discuss.  If you don't contribute, you are fair game for getting moderated, or simply moved to an uncensored thread counterpart.  

 

It's win-win.  You got uncensored discussion.  And then for people that don't feel like getting into a heated personal back and forth on the subject of Violent J losing weight... they can stick to the regular forums.  

 

Nobody is protected in the uncensored board.

 

Nobody can bitch that someone is picking on them in the uncensored board.

 

And nobody can shit post in an album/serious discussion thread.

 

I dunno, I hope I explained myself well. Because I think this would work.

Excellent compromise. Some Juggalos burn down their tents at the Gathering, take illegal drugs, and on and on. A Juggalo forum doesn't exclude their reality in the name of wearing PC goggles. Free speech, motherfucker; check Lucky's solution out.

sketchez said
  people are gonna post where they wanna post ..people will constantly be removed  for opinions they can't hold back which will mess it all up.

agreed. If scruffy hates it so much here he should just bounce. He has started this kind of thread before and it hasn't worked out for him, don't know why he is going on another crusade....

krunkazphuk said

I'm gonna check myself and suggest other members and moderators do the same. Trying to put Juggalos on a leash seems like a pissing contest on an electric fence.

Amen, Krunk.

Preach!

I would consider calling Smack a worthless poster as shit talk....

Check ya self Slum.

I been thinking on this. 

I think the best solution is to have a moderators forum where when a moderator sees a post that is out of line, it can be sent for moderation where all the mods can weigh in on whether it violates the general rules. 

I think basic rules like no personal attacks, racism, etc are delete worthy and repeat offenders are banned is the least we should have. The difference is what is straight up shit talking and what is just ribbing or disagreeing. 

If you look at mine and scruffy's discussion the other day we both probably sounded more on edge than we were. We're juggalos. We cuss. We call people stupid ass or tell them they're ridiculous or whatever. But that is wholesale different from the constant harassing that smack was doing. He was deliberately trying to fuck with the functioning of the community. He was being disruptive. He may have had a point initially but it's lost when all you do is try and cause disruption. And his comments weren't "you're stupid, fucker" they were "you're a fucking paedophile loser nazi" and "this is worse than isis". That shit is uncalled for. 

When comments like those are found, the post should be moved with a link that says the post is being reviewed. A day later it either comes back with or without that comment and instead of a warning, the discussion of why it is in question is forwarded to the poster. 

It's a lot of work, but once the problematic posters are banned, it'll lighten up. And if a mod is accused of just deleting posts then there's a history and discussion so all mods can be informed.

And maybe expand the number of mods if there's even enough people here that everybody can agree is fair and level headed. 

But I dunno. I think if we can get a few people to stop with their vendetta bullshit then this community will run a lot smoother.

Lucem, this thread isn't about who you "highly respect" around here. OCJ barely even posts here anymore. Novo has been one of the biggest shit stirrers in the forum for a long while. Sean law fires insults at whoever he pleases. They all have engaged in what Scruffy is complaining about at the top of this thread, just as much as the next person.

Um, Randy Gall is gonna hafta post in the uncensored side. 

I liked Lucky's idea, I'd like it even better if it actually worked, which I'm sure people around here would have to TRY to make it work. It probably could if the mods just moved a post about "young wicked raping everyone at Psy" to the uncensored side. 

I think a good solution is probably just let shit smooth out. I haven't been on a LOT of the threads lately, but it seemed like when smack came back, a lot of this shit got even more heated. Now that he's gone, it seems to be a little smoother. Miklo seems to be cool, when he's not talking about scruffy's inner circle, and whatnot.

Pretty sure we had a beef thread before, but same with Tidwell, I think there was just jokes about "beef" on that, and the entire section just got taken down. 

But hey, I'm sure this site had its ups and downs, we're just coming back from a down, shit happens, it's cool. We're crawling back up, and start some threads of the year like, "what you thinking about", and "don't judge me" and "morbid" and all of those other ones that I can't think of right now. 

LuckyNumbrXIII said
I don't think you guys understand my idea.  I don't want there to be goodie two shoes forum and bizarro forum. 

 

Im saying like, you see the top of the forums where there's a board called "gathering of the juggalos"?  Have an uncensored forum in there. And keep the rest how they are, except with moderators actively making sure people aren't just ruining threads about actual topics. 

 

Like, slumerican says shit don't bother him, but a couple days ago he specifically said my posts were 2/3 of the reason he doesn't post anymore, or something like that. So clearly he does want moderation. Or he wants to leave?  I dunno ask him. 

I understood. I just don't think it will work the way you imagine it, from personal experience with a similar idea. 

Perhaps a simple fix would be to make a rule prohibiting excessive spamming of a negative thought. If a person has a redundant expression they must seek another means of recourse or be suspended. That way people can say what they like but are limited before it becomes blown out of proportion.