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Another Juggalo still doesn't "get it" regarding Twiztid's masters
February 17, 2021
5:03 pm
vinyllover
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Twiztid “blackmailed” ICP for their masters. Nope. Not even close. ICP wasn’t putting Twiztid cds back into stock for new fans. Twiztid albums wouldn’t have made it onto cd and vinyl and cassette if it weren’t for MNE and Jamie and Paul doing what they did. Twiztid masters were nothing more than paperweights around the Psychopathic offices. Joe Bruce basically wanted to sit on the masters and let the physical cd’s die. Why? Because he’s a whiny cunt who was mad that Twiztid left. Remember, Twiztid started asking for their masters BEFORE the whole Young Wicked and Samantha Bruce thing. So THAT’S how we know that Violent J had no reason to let Twiztid albums die a physical death on his label when they could be given new life on another label. That’s why I think he was just being a whiny cunt about it all. Without Twiztid going that route, I would not have all that dope Twiztid on vinyl. I wouldn’t have WICKED, Green Book, and Abominationz in my collection. THANK YOU TWIZTID FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN!!!

HE WASN’T USING TWIZTID MASTERS TO MAKE NEW ALBUMS AND MAKE MONEY. THIS IS WHAT 17%ERS ALWAYS IGNORE. THAT’S WHY TWIZTID WAS JUSTIFIED IN DOING WHAT THEY DID TO GET THEIR MASTERS.

Would this Juggalo seriously expect me to believe that if ICP could have pulled a Twiztid move against Island records and gotten THEIR MASTERS BACK, that NOT A SINGLE JUGGALO WOULD CHEER ICP ON FOR DOING THAT? hahahahaha. Give me a break.

February 17, 2021
5:19 pm
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ICP is still bitter about masters? They need to get the fuck over it. I’m gonna have to agree with Chuck Reeves on that issue. ICP dropped the ball. Their failure to keep Twiztid albums repressed in physical form and available for download on the internet does not mean Twiztid should just sit back and take that shit. They had every fucking moral right to get as many of their masters as they could. Thanks to them, I was able to buy their shit on vinyl. Which is dope! I guarantee you Psychopathic would never have done that with Twiztid stuff. Not even if things were still cool. The proof? ICP is still taking a lot of time to put out THEIR shit on vinyl. Nevermind any other artist on Psychopathic Records, old or new!

Time stamp provided. Just hit play. jump to 1 hour and 48 minutes and watch until 1 hour 54 minutes.

  

February 17, 2021
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Some of yall one sider juggalos are unbearable 

 

Icp rules twiztid rules everybody rules

February 17, 2021
8:07 pm
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O’doyle rules!

Whoop whoop Split :

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February 17, 2021
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Vinyllover is completely correct.

February 17, 2021
9:42 pm
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I refuse to watch Chuck Reeves.

 

BUT, you’re correct. Asking for masters is an entirely reasonable request, especially if they’re owned by an incredibly petty label who will never under any circumstances repress your albums. Juggalos would LOVE IT if ICP was able to secure their masters from Jive/Island, so it’s a bit hypocritical to be against Twiztid wanting to secure their masters from ICP.

 

I just wish we could get the Island version of Mostastesless on streaming and/or Vinyl.

Whoop whoop Pigg :

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February 18, 2021
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Pigg said
I just wish we could get the Island version of Mostastesless on streaming and/or Vinyl.  

That part ^

February 18, 2021
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So does Twiztid have their masters for every PSY album yet (Island Mostasteless not included)? Would we know? We’ve seen a lot of vinyl except I for think Mirror Mirror, Mans Myth and Independents Day. They re-vamped Mutant so I assume they have that orignal master? Abominationz?

February 19, 2021
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Carnivalkilla44 said
So does Twiztid have their masters for every PSY album yet (Island Mostasteless not included)? Would we know? We’ve seen a lot of vinyl except I for think Mirror Mirror, Mans Myth and Independents Day. They re-vamped Mutant so I assume they have that orignal master? Abominationz?  

Twiztid pressed the original Mostasteless on vinyl. They had it printed in Europe by using the CD as a master, and then they gave it away for free in mystery boxes which arguably, has more expensive contents inside than the price of the box paid for by the customer. Therefore, no profit means no civil charges laid against them by Joe Bruce and his lawyer.

Good point about Mutant. I think they did grab the master for that. They must have if they can charge money for it.

Abominationz exists on vinyl picture disc and MNE cd format. They also got Freek Show, Green Book and W.I.C.K.E.D.

They do NOT have Mirror Mirror, Mans Myth and Independents Day. They also don’t have Phatso, Phatso II, or Chainsmoker. And they likely never will get those masters since ICP wants NOTHING to do with Twiztid anymore. The only way those others could get on vinyl is if Twiztid does to them exactly what they did to Mostasteless to get around any American legal consequences.

To ICP’s credit though, even though they put the breaks on the MNE picture disc of Blaze’s first EP because MNE didn’t properly obtain the master ( or as shown here they were going to and probably even did, but Joe Bruce canceled the deal after Twiztid backed out of the Juggalo march ), they still either gave the Gang Rags master to Blaze permanently at a cost, or they simply rented out the master for a fee to Blaze and MNE; much the same way Island rented out the Milenko and Jeckel Brothers masters to ICP for a free.

February 19, 2021
8:12 am
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They repressed Mostasteless on CD as well as cassette. The CD came with VIP for the tour, so that’s probably how they got around that. I’m pretty sure the cassettes were sold, though.

February 19, 2021
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Given ICP’s own opinions on artistic ownership in the 90s/early-aughts, it is very funny/jarring to see ICP fans defending them on this in 2021.

Kill Your Boss

February 19, 2021
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It certainly is a new time. The Juggalo Divide. Luckily, I see alot of juggalos ready to move on from the beef. Alot of juggalos just want to enjoy the music both sides bring. While I enjoy some artists on MNE, I admit I haven’t bought a Twiztid album since evilution of life’s ?’s. The beginning of the album still kind of irks me a bit. All that talk about the gang list and all that. Twiztid has certainly had their moments of hypocrisy. But VJ’s pettiness and ego have been the stuff of legend for years. It was probably becoming unbearable for alot of the artists on psychopathic. 

But I really don’t care about all of that anymore. If 4 grown men are having problems, let them sort it out.

"I Just Wanna Hide Inside My Own Private Hell"- Boondox

February 20, 2021
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I would’ve just told it how it is, Twiztid wanted an exuberant amount of money to play the Gathering and kept the masters 

February 26, 2021
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One sided Juggalos like you never get it on either side. Fact is Mono and J are both bitter and Twiztid and ICP never liked each other in the end. That’s how I see it, it was years of inner hate between the two trying to keep it together so Juggalos still think the family is as tight as ever. Twiztid fans are blind to the fuckery they have done to ICP over the years and Vise Versa your side isn’t better and y’all are just as bitter as they are. People say J never shuts up about it but neither does Paul why can Paul freely bitch but when J does it’s a sin? they all have stuff they need to vent about… Mono’s are just most likely lies. I don’t believe a thing that comes out of that dudes mouth anymore.

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