10 minute mark.
Paul starts to address the "gang list." They were assessed. He mentions how Juggalos were taken off the list after 2011. HE IS CORRECT!!! Paul is also correct that the original lawsuit was to demand information asking why they were assessed in the first place. Well, it's all there in the 2011 report, Paul. 4 states had classified Juggalos as a gang and many Juggalos clicked up with other gangs to do gang shit. California, Utah, Pennsylvania and Arizona. That's why the FBI had to take a look at Juggalos. Because of what other states had done and had told the FBI about the problems they were having.

11:45.
Jamie says they had their own opinion on how the scenario should be addressed. Theirs was to say get legal services for these people that had this stigma. Like maybe not getting in the army or losing their kids in custody cases.

12:15.
Paul says when they looked deeper, they lost their kids because of something else. Not because of musical taste. Jamie says there was always a backstory that was being overlooked.

12:45.
Jamie says the police all across the nation do assessments. He talks about hypothetical "hatchet riders" and "milenko crew" cliques that do exist. He admits this. But the police only talk to each other and that's the extent of it. Not every Juggalo is thought of as a potential gang member.

23:45
They get into talking about Eminem knowing them and being a fan of House of Krazees. And how Eminem told them he was about to sign with Dre. They claim that instead of Eminem having to pay to get on in shows, they just let him on when HOK did shows. Could be true. If they helped him, that makes them nice guys about the whole thing, I'd say. Eminem goes to the rap olympics and has someone tell Paul basically, I told you so. I'm signing with Dre.

24:50.
Paul says he was telling Eminem about the ICP beef, "Look we don't have shit to do with this." They asked ICP to not be involved apparently. "That was a fucked up situation."

25:30
Interviewer restates, "You guys stayed out of it at the end of the day." I hear a "Yep" and I don't know if it's from Jamie or Paul. But Jamie apparently left out how HE offered his services to Slim Anus and Nothing but a Bitch Thang. However it is true that PAUL HIMSELF did NOT participate in any of the diss tracks ICP made to Eminem. Paul then says "we were the ones who ended up getting a hold of Proof and them, trying to squash this crazy dumb shit. So Proof was with it. Everybody met up at a bowling alley and squashed it. Just like that." Hmmm. Does anyone remember these videos like this that are allegedly Esham Smith's words from years ago detailing his past disappointments with J and Psychopathic Records?  Esham claims HE helped squash the beef between ICP and Eminem.

26:50
Paul still talking about how he was amazed back then that Dre scooped up Eminem.

28:20
They mention Kid Rock and how he used to rap and how many rappers would put flyers on cars back in the day.

CPN's take on the interview.  Start at 41 minutes 44 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIulwW52AUc#t=41m44s

CPN is upset about.

1. Jamie Madrox not mentioning his role in Eminem diss tracks.

2. Twiztid apparently getting the whole gang list/march thing wrong. Sorry, but Chuck Reeves and Twiztid were right about the march and the so called list, and what it really meant. JAMIE DIDN'T DENY that certain Juggalo street crews existed and did gang shit that made cops take a second look at them. All he demands is personal responsibility. If a bunch of Juggalos do gang shit they ruin it for the rest. I made this point again and again. There is a footnote in the 2011 NGIC list that clearly states NOT EVERY JUGGALO IS A SUSPECTED GANG MEMBER. If police forces IGNORE THAT, then that is NOT THE FAULT of the FBI.

3. Even though Twiztid mentioned their 2012 falling out with ICP over the gang list, CPN is upset they neglected to mention that siding with Young Wicked is what made ICP shun them for good.

4. CPN also claims that in a Gathering Seminar in 2012 or 2013, Violent J even back then was talking about suing the FBI. CPN mentions this fact to show that J did care and wanted to do something to stop it RIGHT AWAY. CPN would say of Violent J that it's untrue that Violent J would wait years to do it because he just wanted publicity all of a sudden and didn't really give a fuck about Juggalos.

1. All people who know Twiztid are aware of that.

But I'm sure the radio DJ and other listeners who are unfamiliar with the history don't know that Jamie involved himself in it. By not mentioning it, one could argue that Jamie is attempting to let people get the impression that he was never involved. He seems to be not deliberately not clarifying. Is he afraid of his own past? One may call that lying by omission.

He's still not setting the record straight. He is still leaving out details. It could be argued Jamie is trying to wash his hands of his part in the old Eminem diss tracks. At which point we would have to wonder why he would want to do something like that. It's over. The beef was squashed. ICP makes no secret of their beef. Why does Jamie have to omit his role? What is he afraid or ashamed of? Why can't he own up to it?

CPN also said there was an interview Paul did in the mirror mirror era where he was asked about a rumour about him beating Eminem in a freestyle, and a fight breaking out with Paul almost getting tossed offstage. He dispels the rumour and says he barely knew Eminem, if at all, back in those days. Contrast that with how he now talks about how close he and Eminem were back then.

I would like to see this original interview CPN is talking about.