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New Twiztid interview. Criticisms.
March 13, 2019
1:01 am
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King Lucem Ferre said

No, the problem is that people tend to hold them more accountable than they would hold people they actually know or even themselves. It happens to every celebrity.  

Some people might. But I’m just calling out bullshit and immaturity when I see it. Same thing I do with my friends. Same thing I want my friends to do with me; I try to do it with myself as well, but nobody is actually that good at calling themselves out. Either they don’t see the bullshit they do or they worry too much about everything they do, it’s damn near impossible to catch yourself all the times and only catch the shit worth catching, ya know?

March 13, 2019
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J is the Donald Trump of the juggalo scene. He is incredibly insecure despite his success and has a huge ego. That being said, J is to Psychopathic what Brian Wilson was to the Beach Boys. It’s obvious he writes the majority of ICP’s music, Shaggy’s verses included. He has creative control over practically everything on the label.

 

I think Psychopathic was at its strongest when someone who wasn’t super homies with the bands was running the show. Alex ran a great business. He was at least partially responsible for Psychopathic’s Golden Era. I think he was unafraid to tell J no. MEC as well. That is of course purely speculation on my part.

 

Getting caught in an echo chamber is almost always a bad thing.

March 13, 2019
1:18 am
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jiggles the clown said

Some people might. But I’m just calling out bullshit and immaturity when I see it. Same thing I do with my friends. Same thing I want my friends to do with me; I try to do it with myself as well, but nobody is actually that good at calling themselves out. Either they don’t see the bullshit they do or they worry too much about everything they do, it’s damn near impossible to catch yourself all the times and only catch the shit worth catching, ya know?  

Uhhh, yeah?

 

I know that J’s exaggerating the FBI assessment and exploiting the civil rights angle for publicity and I’ll call him out on it but that doesn’t make me want to boycott ICP or hate his guts. I honestly can’t stand ICP’s music nearly as much as I used to but I always listen regardless. Haven’t purged them (probably never will) from my library like I did with Hed PE, Hopsin, B.o.B, Zug Izland, Hollywood Undead and probably will do with Rabbit Junk.

I also know that Mono likes to run his mouth and pretend like he’s completely innocent or back peddle out of it but it doesn’t make me want to cancel Twiztid either.

 

IDK, music is life for me so I can’t imagine holding the character or personality of the artist above the music. I’ll cancel on artists I like by downloading their music rather than buying but they have to be really fucking scummy for me to do that. Like Burzum or anything that has to do with Varg, if I ever got into that band I’d never buy their music.

March 13, 2019
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CPN’s take.

 

 

Gotta say he makes a lot of good points. What Twiztid leaves out is their role in the Eminem diss songs. What CPN and others leave out is the part of the Rude Jude interview where Paul clearly says that Violent J gave him an ultimatum to do the diss or be kicked off the record company. However Paul and Jamie make it seem like they fought with J and they won out over Violent J and they stayed out of the beef. THAT much is NOT TRUE.

He says he is going to release a video on their comments about the march soon. Good. I can’t wait to bump up an old topic of mine about CPN being a moron about the gang list and tear his stupid shit apart ONCE AGAIN…

March 13, 2019
1:44 am
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I don’t care about CPN’s opinion. Why should anybody care about his take?

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March 13, 2019
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24:53 of the video in the 1st post of this topic.

Mono:
Dude (Violent J) takes him (Jamie Madrox), and flies him home, right? “Off the label or I need you on this.” You know what I mean. Came back heartbroken. And we just told him, “don’t involve us in any of it. You got your shit? Do your shit. Because when we had our shit, we had to handle our shit on our motherfucking own.” So that was a fucked up situation.

Jude:
That must have been tough.

Mono:
It was.

Jamie:
It was awkward position.

Mono:
We were making money with these dudes and they were our brothers. But we explained to them the best that we could and either they bought it or they didn’t. And they were like “fuck ya’ll this is how we feel. We respect it. It is what it is.”

So wait, Violent J respected Twiztid’s desire to stay out of Eminem diss tracks and let it drop and they just went about their business together for years on Psychopathic Records? Is that what Mono is trying to say? Is this more revisionist history?

Jude:
But you guys stayed out of it at the end of the day.

Jamie:
After that, yeah.

 

CPN has a conspiracy theory that Twiztid has said fuck Juggalos let’s go mainstream, let’s kiss Eminem’s ass on a radio station he owns. Let’s tell whatever lies we have to for this new audience we want to grab. So if that is true CPN, is Twiztid extra stupid in your mind because Eminem still hasn’t forgotten their participation? And therefore Twiztid didn’t think very far through their campaign to lie and deceive? Is that what you would argue CPN?

March 13, 2019
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King Lucem Ferre said
I don’t care about CPN’s opinion. Why should anybody care about his take?  

Good questions are good questions. No matter who asks them. True though he isn’t saying anything that hasn’t already been said by posters here, or in youtube comments I copied and pasted pages ago.

March 13, 2019
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Go to the video 8 minutes and 13 seconds. CPN mentions other places where Paul and Jamie have publicly dissed Eminem.

“This is not the only time that Monoxide and Madrox have dissed Eminem. Monoxide has dissed Eminem in old Psychopathic Interviews during the Mirror Mirror days. Monoxide has literally dissed Eminem before. Jamie Madrox in a Murder Dog article, talked shit about Eminem and said Eminem stole the song Murder Murder Murder from them. And that the next time they see him they gonna say “what’s up” about that. These motherfuckers were just as much like “Fuck Eminem” as ICP was. Suddenly, they stayed completely out of it. Oops. Those fucking interviews still exist. Oops. The internet exists and people can still find those interviews. Oops, Twiztid. Oops. Forgot all about of it, right?”

Also check out this old link I found.

Twiztid 08 Interview

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/psychopathic-music/twiztid-08-interview/page-5/#p19519

Mike C said
some of the shit made me laugh lol, like esham and vanilla ice lol

 

TWIZTID VS. EMINEM
Monoxide Child responds to Jamie Madrox’s statements in Murder Dog about Eminem:
“I met the motherfucker in a Kinko’s. He walked up on me and was like, “Ain’t you on the House of Krazees?” and I was wit’Brian and Jamie and I was like, “……..nah.” like who the fuck are you? And he was like, “Nah man, it’s cool man. My name is Marshall.” And I was like, “I don’t know you.” You know, blazay, whatever. But he ended up kickin’ it wit me and it became cool, know what I’m sayin’? And I was like, “Aight I know who you are” and I heard that he said he had a single out by the name of “Sole Intent” and I just happened to pick it up. I went in one of the record stores and someone was like, “Listen to this shit.” And it was dope. It was like “Whoa! That’s you?” So we kicked it and whatever and it turns out he lives like 5 minutes from where I was stayin’ at. I’d be goin’ over his house and whatever and I’d be hearin’ all that shit. I heard all that shit he’s puttin’ out [now] like a long time ago. As a matter of fact, if I ever seem him, I’ma be like, “You KNOW you stole “Murder, Murder, Murder” from us.” He knows it ‘cause he was like, “That’s the greatest shit I’ve ever heard from ya’ll.” And he TOOK that shit!” “But anyway, we ended up signin’ wit’ Def Jam…or actually…he was doin’ a concert in Las Vegas ‘cause Myzery went to Las Vegas to do like a Latino concert wit’ Big Pun, Fat Joe, and Psycho Realm; they were all on it and the dude NayNay from Myzery actually ended up comin’ by Text-Enhance” href=”http://sugabearchic.tripod.com/id44.html”>back to the tour tellin’ me he talked to Eminem and he was like, “Tell Paul I said What up?” Then he signed wit’ Death Row and Dr.Dre or whatever the shit they got goin’ on and we ended up signin’ wit Def Jam. So I was like, “Call ‘em up, let’s see if he wants to go on a tour.” And the word got back to us that he was like, “Well, FUCK Twiztid! They roll wit’ ICP. I can’t even fuck wit’ them” and I was like, “WHAT?!”, know what I’m sayin’? Like, “Bitch, I’ll fuck you up!” He knows. He knows me personally that I’m the type of motherfucker that if you say somethin’on your album about me, I’ma come to your house motherfucker ‘cause I know where you live. If I can get at you, believe me I’ma get at you. He knows that’ s how we roll. He don’t know ICP. He don’t know them muthafuckaz will beat the shit outta him. Swear to God dog. That’s why he’s talkin’ that shit. Believe me. It’s because he don’t know. But anway, we heard that and were like, “Well, fuck him!” Then he ended up dissin’ ICP and we go caught up into that shit. Then I ended up askin’ this dude, the guy that supposedly came to my ass to right to his face; I was like, “Keep it real man. As real as you’ve ever been wit’ me. Did that motherfucker say that?” and he was like, “He ain’t never said nuthin’ bout ya’ll” so it’s like what the fuck? I don’t give a fuck. If I see him on the street and he got somethin’ to say which I know he don’t, he won’t, then what? It’s like we’re just caught in that spot. He dissed ICP, well fuck you! You ain’t got no reason to diss them. They were doin’ this when you were just a nut stain in a underwear. Show the respect. Pay homage.” 
Monoxide comments on whether Eminem knew Madrox did the voice overs for “Slim Anus”:
“Nobody knows that and I’m glad ‘cause when he did it, I was like, “That was a mistake. You should’ve never did that.” And the day after he did it, he was like, “Mistake. Should’ve never did that.” That ain’t us! We don’t give a fuck about ANYBODY dog! If you ain’t a Juggalo, fuck you! We ain’t got time to waste on you. I ain’t gonna waste 20 seconds of the Juggalos’ time to spit somethin’ on MY album, on OUR album, about you. What the fuck? I don’t need you to diss me on your album so your fuckin’ mainstream little groupies can come and buy my shit to hear what I’ma say. Fuck you! Juggalos KNOW how it’s layin’! If you really got somethin’ to say, say that shit. Just like we’ll say it. I ain’t got any time to diss ANYBODY on a album. But if I see you, ya know what I’m sayin’?

TWIZTID VS. VANILLA ICE
INTERVIEW WITH MONOXIDE ABOUT AN ENCOUNTER WITH VANILLA ICE:
“We saw muthafuckin’ Vanilla Ice when he was doin’ the JCW shit. You know what I said? “Your shit USED to be fresh.” You know what Esham told that motherfucker? “I used to bump your shit, but nah…”  Dog, it was sickening! He never saw that shit comin’. He probably thought we were gonna be like, “Oh, Vanilla! What’s up man?” Nah, we were like, “Fuck you! You ain’t a Juggalo. What the fuck are YOU doin’ here? Are you usin’ US as a publicity stunt?!” So they kept him his muthafuckin’ ass away from us ‘cause they thought we were gonna whip his ass. For real.

TWIZTID VS. HALFBREED (namely The R.O.C. aka Sol of Halfbreed)
Monoxide comments on the situation:
“I just sat up in the office and listened to Brian (Sol/R.O.C.) from Halfbreed tell Alex that they’re done! “I’m done! I’m sick of doin’ this shit. We can’t do it right. Do you wanna sign me? Do you wanna sign my band?” and Alex Abbiss was like, “Let me tell you somethin’ motherfucker. First off, your boy [Skrapz] opened his mouth and he dissed Twiztid and they wanna kill that motherfucker!” You know what his reply was? “That’s on him!”
“He’s a fuckin’ chump dog. He’ll sellout anybody and I’ll be damned if I have him sellout to Juggalos. I will not have them buy his shit if I have anythin’ to do wit’ it. For real, that kid’s a chump.”
“Usually when a motherfucker asks me about House of Krazees or Halfbreed, like Murder Dog and a few other magazines and I tell ‘em, “I ain’t tellin’ you nuthin’. I ain’t got nuthin’ to say ‘bout that shit.” ‘Cause I don’t want somebody to go out and buy that shit thinkin’ we got somethin’ to do wit’ that shit. That don’t even put money in Brian’s pocket even on the internet.”
“They’re done, know what I’m sayin’? That shit is through. He sold his boy out like it was his worst fuckin’ enemy dog. And the reason why we told him that was the reason why you’ll never be on this label so is that everytime he looks at that chump motherfucker, he thinks, “You cost me everything.” And that’s what it’s about dog. It’s fightful but it’s like, “I don’t got time to fuck wit’ you.” He ain’t even CLOSE to this. Not even close. This is all personal shit.”

   

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March 13, 2019
10:52 pm
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Look. Man. We get it. CPN is super butthurt about twiztid not attending the march and he’s super in love with violent J and everything twiztid does is bad and everything ICP does is amazing.

 

we fuckin’ get it.

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March 14, 2019
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KreyzMcKormik said

I’m down to talk about this shit. Hit me up on Facebook.  

I just saw your new podcast where you started mentioning me and this whole gang list at 32 minutes. You made some great points and I have a couple concessions to make to you. I promise the new PM is a short read.

March 14, 2019
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VANILLA ICE IS DOPE AS FUCK.

AND HAS HAD EVERY OPPURTUNITY TO SELL OUT JUGGALOS

AND HAS NOT!

TWIZTID CAME OUT LATER SAYING THAT “ICE WAS A COOL MUTHAFUCKER, AND THEY PLANNED TO TOUR TOGETHER”

ANYONE REMEMBER THAT INTERVIEW?

ALSO. THE ‘HARD TO SWALLOW’ ALBUM FROM 99 IS KILLER. BEST RAP ROCK MIX UP EVER

TWIZTID NOW TRYING TO DO “MAGIK SPELLZ” 20 YEARS LATER AND CAN NOT EVEN COMPETE WITH

ICE’S “HARD TO SWALLOW ” ALBUM.

THEY SHOULD STUDY THAT RECORD BEFORE TRYING TO BE “METAL” ANYMORE

ALSO ICE HAD A DRUMMER, DJ, AND BAND WAY BEFORE TWIZZLER, WHO IS JUST NOW DABBLING IN THAT REALM.

APPRENTLY OLD SKOOL TWIZZLER WAS JUST AZ JEALOUZ AZ THE CURRENT TWIZZLER.

AND ESHAM IS DOPE AF, BUT I HIGHLY DOUBT HE WAS STILL TALKING SHIT TO ICE DURING HALLOWICKED

WHEN ICE SET DETROIT ON FIRE.

March 15, 2019
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Here’s MY “Interview Review”

 

At the top, I am conflating both Twiztid’s Rude Jude interview AND ScottieD/FLH’s interview of Blaze Ya Dead Homie. For the most part, I’m talking about the former not the latter.

If I were to be up front about it (for the non-readers), I have no idea what the “purpose” of this interview was for. Actually, I should say, I had no idea what the “purpose” of the interview was… until I read what “the internet” had to say about it. Having seen so… I think the interview did EXACTLY what it was meant to do… But I’ll get to that eventually.

 

So let’s start with the “event” itself.

Who the FUCK booked this?!

If I was them, I’d be chopping off heads as to why Twiztid was roped into this fuckin’ presentation!

Who was this supposed to serve?! Seemed to me like Rude Jude (ie “the white guy that likes to sound black” Jenny Jones used to drag out to talk mad shit about her guests up until she caused a couple murder/suicides) had no fuckin’ idea who Twiztid was! (I got old skool real life beef with Jenny Jones on the personal so… all a’ them can ftfo).

What was the promotion?! I don’t wanna get ahead of myself here but what did they spend more time talking about?

 

From there one might wanna point out that Rude Jude seemed to wanna drill down into his Wikipedia search about who he was talking to on HIS show dot dot dot…

…and when he did his due diligence as a SIRIUS podcaster asking the “unasked” questions… they were all about ICP and the separation.

With SO MANY ways to go… they glossed. Right the fuck over. Like it never happened. G.I.R. style.

Why does Dark Lotus and Psychopathic Rydas no longer exist?

Oh shure… it was The March… not the SHIT that came before it. But who are they to tell tales where they aren’t the hero at the end?

AMB = Dark Lotus + Psychopathic Rydas + Gathering of the Juggalos Mainstage…. (buy a new calculator, bitch)

 

See… here’s the thing… let’s not EVEN talk about YW…

Were it NOT for that scenario, were it NOT for ScottieD/Faygoluvers getting THAT interview with ICP… we DID NOT KNOW that Twiztid was ONLY playing The Gathering(s) based on their ability to collect their MASTERS… (on the one hand – that could be some sly business… on the other…)

VIOLENT J & SHAGGY told us that… NOT Paul & Jamie… and yet… juggalos/magik ninjas/a.x.e. – is “FAM”… pffft.

 

Let’s get back to the interview itself.

This interview is a small example of what MNE has going for them. Their foil.

How many ICP interviews have you seen where they are constantly being asked about Twiztid? How many interviews does Twiztid go on where the conversation is all about THAT? That is their world. Trying to get a paycheck on a dwindling timeline most of US would call “mid-life crisis”.

I’ll give credit to Jude, even though he clear could give a fuck, he WAS going in on trying to find out why they left PSY…

and the response he got back about… was the fuckin’ MARCH?!

That’s a lie. That’s TEN TIMES a lie!

 

But what does this have to do with ScottieD’s interview with Blaze…?

I encourage you to first watch/listen to Twiztid’s Rude Jude Interview… and then, watch FLH’s Blaze interview…

…That pitch in their voice when talking about “beef”… is “The Knowing”…

They know they fucked up.

Blaze knows he is a fuckin’ GAWD in the PSY world… but I guess he can hope for the best playing sidestage to a Drayven drum solo…

“Let’s all squash this juggalo beef”!!! and forget about the pregnant girl that made ALL this shit “real” for a lot of people!

… but no… let’s pretend like it was about some FBI shit…

 

I got more shit to say… but, like… it’s too early and my hangover is too fresh (as in enjoyable), so…

 

TBC

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What’s your beef with Jenny Jones? I’d love to hear that story!

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