Unjust Love – A New Nightmare

Screaming Out – A New Nightmare

Sick Man – A New Nightmare

Breakdown – Get Twiztid

Boogieman – The Darkness

Down Here – The Darkness

On and On – The Darkness

No Breaks – The Darkness

Seance – The Darkness

A Place in the Woods – The Darkness

Barely Surviving – TCEOL?

Black Clouds – TCEOL?

Nothing to You – TCEOL?

1k Hells 2 Find My Heaven – TCEOL?

The above are probably the standout tracks for me from MNE. With the exception of “Seance” and “A Place in the Woods” none of these songs sound like anything from the PSY days so you’ll have to go in with an open mind (and ears).

Do you mean this part?

Tell me, who gives it how you want it when ya need it
When the rest of em retreated depleted and even turned their backs
On the people who really needed I’m just stating facts
You needa watch the shit you tatt on your back
And me and Jamie we ain’t a couple of hacks
Roaming the industry lookin’ for fat checks
We’re the dopest of what we be the wicked abstract
And we never going out like that

Two contributers to that website had this to say:

Twiztid will always be for the fam. They wouldn’t turn their backs on the Juggalos for any amount of money. Unlike so many other artists who sold out to the industry just so they can cash in on whatever trend is cool at the time. They’re gonna stay real to themselves until the day they die.

&

“Watch the shit you tat on your back” is also a sublimial diss toeards psychopathoc records. Mono has ssid before that the hatchetman is tatted on his back because they will always have his back. After leaving the label there was some bad blood. So hes basically saying watch out who you trust and not everybody you think will help you is going to

Old Mr Dangerous said

Down Here – ** – Mono can’t help but let his subliminals deter from enjoyment. I preferred when ABK and Violent J did a track of the same name.

“Her ugly-ass titties had a rat hangin and chewin off of each nipple”

TheFvckinKreeper said
Am I the only one who prefers New Nightmare over any of the LPs they’ve done since? 

Nope, I too much prefer New Nightmare. I think they somewhat got back to that “different” sound in a few songs off TCELO? which I dug.

If there’s one thing you can’t knock Twiztid for, is that they don’t switch up there style. Every album sounds different and you don’t get that a lot in this day and age of rap.

Old Mr Dangerous said
Perhaps Madrox should just do what he is feeling and make that pop-punk, screamo album he’s holding inside lol

I recall Madrox saying how big of an influence Linkin Park was to him, on a rap and singing level. Bet he was affected by Chester’s suicide quite a much.  

Didn’t know that, but for sure I believe it. I recall shortly before leaving Psy Mono saying they would love a collab with Five Finger Death Punch. 

…instead we got Twiztid and The Wickedness and Mono fucking up the classics with inappropriate and poorly executed gutteral vocals during live shows. Nobody from around my way gave The Wickedness any love. I guess they kept the drummer, Draxx0n Darklord or some shit. I’m not gonna be that jackass who says “huurr they rippin off Tech” but the fact remains, Tech did do both the vocals and live drummer first, and infinitely better. 

Innovating and playing with your sound is one thing, but that hard left into psuedo-mall metal was just a weird era and smelled like a post-Juggalo crisis of identity even then.

Word, I guess I’ve been l33t since a youngin. 

On the real I’ve always been a musical elitist, but I never made any bones about the reason why “your” music sucks is because it’s not “my” music, which is fresh. I was a big hater when Linkin Park was popping off, but I almost had to be. It was a very angsty time in radioland, with LP, Limp Bizkit and Puddle of Mudd dominating the teenage cultural landscape while I subsisted on a steady diet of metal and wicked shit. 

“Angry Whiny Whitekid Music”, I used to call it. This wasn’t about image though, this was about genuine distaste for that sound. My brother used to have Hybrid Theory on constant spin between Get Rich or Die Tryin’, The 8 Mile Soundtrack and, uh, Buttholes and Sausagelinks or whatever. Closest I came to that sound was Slipknot, and even with them I got real picky real fast. I used to have an arsenal of shade to throw at Linkin Park (but to be fair, I had plenty of exposure to them via forced promixity),

“Yell and headbang all you want. I can’t respect your band if you look like I can beat each of you up.”

“They should have named that album ‘I’m Twisted Up Over a Bitch’. And the follow up should been ‘I’m Still Twisted Up Over a Bitch but I’m Mad About Other Stuff Too ps Fuck You Mom I’m a Rap Rocker'”

‘Heavy’ and ‘Aggressive’ were words both MTV and the schoolyard rubes threw around a lot regarding those kind of bands, and it always rubbed me the wrong way. It was loud, sure, but it wasn’t heavy. Not to me. Heavy wasn’t sensitive. It didn’t give a fuck about your feelings. It wasn’t *about* your feelings. It gave you The Power if you want it, but be careful you don’t get kicked in the teeth.

Aggressive wasn’t your baggy pants and bad douchebag attitude. Aggressive to me was stalking you from blocks away with plenty of advance notice regarding your inevitable death. Aggressive was Diemuthafuckadie til you were so fucking dead we’re gonna bring your undead ass back around to kick it all over again. I used to wonder what Fred Durst was so mad at- he gave himself that fucking haircut. He only had himself to blame so leave that poor furniture alone. 

Eventually I started dating a metalhead chick, which is a culture unto itself of elitist circle jerking. I fit in disturbingly well, considering I was the guy with whom any discourse could be negated with “What the fuck do you know? You like ICP!” …I will boast of recieving the (absofuckinglutely meaningless) occasional distinction of being called cvlt as fvck tho.

That kind of snobby atmosphere cultivates (the delusion of) a critical ear. I’ve been called out more than once for my predilection for enjoying the most garbage, off-beat Horrorcore but turning into your self-righteous middle school music teacher for anything with more than three chords and a melody. The moral of the story is, you like what you like and there really is no accounting for taste.

Epilogue: Years down the road I saw the rapper dude from Linkin Park plugging his solo project on late night TV. It wasn’t my style, but I had to admit that the guy actually does have legit hiphop chops. He could spit. And I really, really didn’t want to. It was like finding out that the lil gay kid you used to tease in class is actually chill as fuck and you’re forced to recognize that you’re just an asshole.

Old Mr Dangerous said

So sailing back to the og subject at hand, did Twiztid balance the rap rock Well?

Sometimes. Often, even. I love some of those Mutant rock tracks. Some H&H songs were okay.    

I thought they balanced it well because they didn’t go full Limp Bizkit with the crossover or anything like that. At the heart of the tracks they stayed true to their hip hop routes.