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Australia fires made worse because of environmentalist nutjobs!
January 8, 2020
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January 8, 2020
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Somebody played my mixtape in Australia, SMH.

January 8, 2020
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Refusing to let loggers clear deadfall in the Minnesota boundary waters, due to “environmental” reasons, fueled a massive forest fire here many years ago. The forests of the boundry waters took over a decade to recover. Guess what, loggers clear dead fall from the boundary waters every year now.
 
I lost 76 acres to these fires. Defended the farmhouse. Cold oceans have had a massive impact on rainfall this year. None! There are high fuel loads in the forests because the Greenies have stopped us doing preventative burns.
 
Its arson many people who are environmentalist have been arrested setting fires
 
 
Is class action lawsuit an option in the land down under?
 
@tamenga88 That’s a really good idea. Everyone harmed by these fires should file a class action suit against the government for preventing them from preventing this.
 
@ArcherWarhound Only way to stop these green activists since there never seems to be negative consequences for their fuckups. If you make activism an investment with negative returns they will go away.
 
They did the same thing in California and the environmental wackos set the forest on fire so they could blame it on the climate change hoax.
 
@David Nolen a few hundred people have been arrested for causing the wildfires already, roughly half of those arrested intentionally set the fires. Its not a large assumption to think some of them could be climate activists too.
 
 
I live in Oz and we have a national broadcaster called the ABC they are state funded. They told people last year to protest and boycott fuel reduction burning in winter as we normally do. They did this because they thought it was a risk and it would be bad for the environment. They removed the article when the fires started.. as Cunk would say ” OF COURCE!!!!”. The lack of fuel reduction burning and full time fire fighters in rural areas is the fix….
 
 
We learned how to prevent the worst impacts of wildfires long ago and like most things that the leftists touch we have regressed and are making things worse!
 
You know they have arrested 183 people because of these fires. Seems activists were starting fires.
 
It’s actually worse than that – lack of controlled burns and other ways of clearing dry bush not only make wildfires worse but can spark them from nothing
 
I’m an Aussie and agree with you Sean, but the minute I get on Twitter and speak about it, I’m labelled a bot, a criminal, a murderer, etc.
 
How stupid do you actually have to be to protest controlled burns?
 
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They said it was for the birds & to reduce carbon from burning…
 
Bring in laws to stop controlled burns then have a predictable massive fire so they then can bring in carbon taxes
 
 
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There’s a distracting debate happening in media about risk reduction burns. There’s solid data from our last royal commission into bushfires that says we’re not meeting our risk reduction burn targets by about 80%. The counter debate, which is legitimate, is that in a hot year, when it gets hot earlier, when there’s already a fuel build-up, then there’s less safe days to do reduction burns and less safe days to do reduction burns is caused by climate change. There’s solid climate predictions pointing to this. The counter-counter debate is that funding was still dropped for risk reduction burns and less were done (in part because people complained of the smoke) even when months were good. So there’s solid arguments both sides for risk reduction burns. Risk reduction burns is but one method to reduce risk, the main one is to create a physical firebreak by clearing land. The biggest complaint from country people I hear is that farmers aren’t allowed to clear crown land when it is next to their property and causing a fire danger, and secondly (the case you highlight), they’re not even allowed to clear trees in their own land. The reasons for this are as you state, carbon offsets and conservation based, but largely the latter. Environmentalists complain that rotten logs are home to animals, country people complain about rotten log homes to insects and animals that get burnt and die when the bushfires come through too intense for the animals to run from them. This is the main complaint from country people when they refer to environmentalist policy and it’s getting deliberately played out in the media as all about risk reduction burns. The third topic rarely mentioned is insane bushfire unaware town-planning and building permits from councils. Between our regular fire disasters every 10 years or so the councils magically totally forget bushfires are a thing. There’s lots of people in the know pointing to individual planning decisions and even whole housing estates where fire awareness was not considered and making houses and suburbs literal death traps. Most country people will speak of environmental types that built a house in the bush totally surrounded by gumtrees and say “well what did you expect” when it burns down. (A bushfire is almost certain to hit an area every 10-40 years depending on the area). Australia’s population is rising rapidly and new housing estates are being built on the edges of cities and towns where there’s lots of bush. You get more price for gumtree enshrouded aesthetic suburbs than those with sensible fire breaks. So when fires are mentioned in terms of lives lost or properties lost this is where people question rising figures and whether sensible government decisions were made.
 
And its funny that the 1 guy that did control burns on his property was fined a ton of money because control burns are illegal, but his house was the only one not burned down in his surrounding area
 
Real environmentalists are those on the right who do not believe in climate change and understand how carbon actually helps all plants grow and that there are actually some chemicals that should be restricted (by being an informed consumer not by making regulations.) There are also some real environmentalists who understand that using controlled fires regularly helps stop wild fires from happening as well and throwing more money at it does not help the park service do that necessarily. If you look into the fires that started in the 1900-1910s you can see that this was a hot debate back then too and those who thought that no controlled fires should be used were obviously wrong. (Lots of wild fires started soon after those anti-environment polices were introduced.)
 
Climate change and global warming tend to be measured based on the temperature of the oceans. If the temperature of the oceans warms up, the world therefore must also be warming up. If the oceans are warming up, which they are, then that means that the probability of a water evaporating from the ocean increases. This leads to more clouds, which could potentially mean more rainfall in certain areas, as we can see from the past sixty years in Australia. This increase in rainfall has both positives and negatives. The positives being that areas that need water more, like deserts, will get more water throughout a year. This also means that areas that already experience daily rain will begin to experience even more rain. The negatives being that the severity of typhoons and hurricanes will increase, but the severity of droughts will decrease at the same time, and seeing as how many people on the planet suffer from not getting enough clean water sources, the increase in rainfall can only help to ease their suffering. So it would appear that we are getting to a point in global warming that we might see a large boom in plant and animal life in drier areas. Too bad people with political agendas don’t care enough about science and facts, and some basic logical reasoning, to see that they are potentially causing more harm than good.
 
This will get downvoted for sure, but you’ve missed the mark on this topic at least in relation to the Australian bushfires. I’m from Australia and yes it’s been a very popular right-wing meme circulated on facebook that the Austalian Greens Party (ie the environmentalists) were to blame. This is complete misinformation as their literal policy on the issue stats that ‘The Australian Greens support hazard reduction burns and backburing to reduce the impact of wildfire when guided by the best scientific, ecological and emergency service expertise’. The real reason not as much backburning is done is due to government funding cuts. But that’s an inconvient topic for the current government so it’s easier to blame the environmentalists. Please don’t buy into the misinformation which deflects criticism from the government – you know – the actual people with the power to control the amount of backburning……..
January 8, 2020
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@King Lucem Ferre

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Yeah bitches, im that short gentleman mentioned in that youtube video.

And the very nice, level headed guy from that other youtube video.

January 8, 2020
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This Aussie YouTuber rules.

“…Possessions are nothing. It’s the people that count, ay…”

YouTube Video Australia burns – feminists most affected!

Whoop whoop krunk :

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January 8, 2020
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I ain’t got 9 minutes, gime me a meme to laugh at…

Yeah bitches, im that short gentleman mentioned in that youtube video.

And the very nice, level headed guy from that other youtube video.

January 8, 2020
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January 8, 2020
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krunkazphuk said
Sure. Ur dick. cool  

That was short.

January 8, 2020
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That’s what she… wait.

If I had a dollar for everytime… dammit. 

Your mom didnt comp… shit.

My first girlfriend said ouch once when I accidentally tried putting it in her butt. That counts right?

Screw you guys, I’m not gonna play with you for like an hour and 45 minutes.

Yeah bitches, im that short gentleman mentioned in that youtube video.

And the very nice, level headed guy from that other youtube video.

January 8, 2020
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https://www.youtube.com/&v=t8XmlMpJSJ8

 

For those interested: The fires are indeed deliberate and I don’t claim these fires are deliberate without any evidence. Here’s just three reasons that lend credence to the idea: “Coincidentally” the fires are in a very large area required for this high speed rail plan. http://clara.com.au/the-clara-plan.html
 
United Nation website with the Agenda 2030 document
 
United Nations website with the Agenda 21 document
 
 
 
 
Every Politician in Australia has to be arrested and charged with Treason and theft of public assets … the corporate global companies who have leased and/or bought stolen assets be arrested for profiteering from proceeds of crime. Stop this Geo Engineering now stop the bullshit with this climate change or global warming whatever terminology these idiots are using today. Piss off the Greeny arseholes and release all the water. To all our fellow Australians open your bloody eyes and see the truth and act now or kiss this country goodbye all your kids and grandkids will suffer the worse ………..
 
 
Australian Constitution Section 100: Nor abridge right to use water The Commonwealth shall not, by any law or regulation of trade or commerce, abridge the right of a State or of the residents therein to the reasonable use of the waters of rivers for conservation or irrigation. Translation: The government wont by any Trade or Commerce Law shorten/reduce/deprive the State’s & Residents right to “Reasonable use of water of rivers for conservation or irrigation”
 
 
I’d say flood plain harvesting violates this, wouldn’t you agree?
 
 
 
why do you think they take the guns first
 
 
izabeladab
Water restrictions for you, an endless supply for them: How a foreign corporate giant is snapping up 89 BILLION litres of Australia’s H20 as the country suffers its worst drought ever Singaporean company is selling Australian water for $490m to Canadian fund It comes as the tightest ever water restrictions are imposed on worried citizens Olam is selling 89,085 megalitres of its permanent water rights in Australia By ALISHA ROUSE FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 10:31 EST, 11 December 2019 | UPDATED: 23:53 EST, 11 December 2019 A multi-billion dollar Singaporean food company is selling 89,000 megalitres of Australian water to a Canadian pension fund.  The mega sale of Australian permanent water rights comes as the country is crippled by one of the worst droughts in its history.  On Tuesday, NSW brought in a complete ban on hoses as part of the toughest water restrictions implemented for more than a decade. But no such problem existed for food and agriculture giant Olam International, which sold the 89billion litres of permanent water rights for an astonishing $490 million. The company sold it to an entity associated with the Public Sector Pension Investment Board, one of Canada’s largest pension investment managers, according to Straits Times. It will use the water to irrigate almond trees, in a business venture likely to draw criticism over foreign ownership of farms and water.  The water rights are in the lower Murray-Darling Basin.  The chairman of the Victorian Farmers Federation’s water council, Richard Anderson, told the Sydney Morning Herald: ‘Really, all you’ve got is a change of ownership, it (the water) has gone from a Singapore-owned company to a Canadian pension fund. ‘It’s a big bulk of water but it’s still being used in agriculture. ‘It’s not as if they’ve just come in as a speculator and said ”we’ll go and buy a big patch of water and we’ll trade it every year”.’ In a separate deal, the same Canadian pension fund has bought 12,000 hectares of almond orchards in Victoria, in a move likely to draw criticism of foreign ownership of farms and water. Water restrictions in Sydney, the Blue Mountains and Illawarra were upgraded to level two as dam levels in the region sank to just 45 per cent capacity, the lowest levels since the Millennium Drought took hold in 2003. The crippling drought sees a complete ban on hoses, requiring residents to use a bucket and sponge to wash their cars or a watering can to tend to their gardens. The Bureau of Meteorology has predicted a hot-than-usual summer, with no forecast for significant rain. The sale is understood to be giving Olam a ‘one-time pre-tax capital gain of about $311 million’, the paper reported. The agreement is for 25 years, with the option to renew for another 25.  In March, the government released its foreign ownership of water entitlement register, showing that investors from China and the US had the largest stake in Australia’s foreign-owned water entitlements. It showed that one in 10 water entitlements is foreign owned.  A water entitlement is the right to an ongoing share of water, which can be sold by irrigators, companies or investors.  Acting as a property right, it gives access to an exclusive share of water from a water resource.  This is different to a water allocation, which is the right to access a volume of water for use or trade.  Under level two restrictions, gardens can only be watered before 10am or after 4pm with a watering can or bucket. Smart and drip irrigation systems can only be used for 15 minutes before 10am or after 4pm. Swimming pools and spas will only be allowed to be topped up for 15 minutes a day with a trigger nozzle. A permit will be required before filling a pool that holds more than 500 litres. Residents caught breaking the rules could face a $220 fine. Businesses who breach the restrictions would also face a $550 fine.
 
 
12:00 the Western Australian doppler radar picked up anomalies that appeared numerous times in 2015, they looked like a worm . There were circular anomalies over the South East of WA , off the coast of the North West of WA and the same anomalies were over the oceans of QLD and NSW … A few links below regarding such anomalies …
 
 
 
 
 
January 8, 2020
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Your words are useless at this point.

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January 8, 2020
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vinyllover said
https://www.youtube.com/&v=t8XmlMpJSJ8

 

Wolf H
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For those interested: The fires are indeed deliberate and I don’t claim these fires are deliberate without any evidence. Here’s just three reasons that lend credence to the idea: “Coincidentally” the fires are in a very large area required for this high speed rail plan. http://clara.com.au/the-clara-plan.html
 
United Nation website with the Agenda 2030 document
https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/21252030%20Agenda%20for%20Sustainable%20Development%20web.pdf
 
United Nations website with the Agenda 21 document
https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf
 
 
 
 
Colin 14 hours ago
Every Politician in Australia has to be arrested and charged with Treason and theft of public assets … the corporate global companies who have leased and/or bought stolen assets be arrested for profiteering from proceeds of crime. Stop this Geo Engineering now stop the bullshit with this climate change or global warming whatever terminology these idiots are using today. Piss off the Greeny arseholes and release all the water. To all our fellow Australians open your bloody eyes and see the truth and act now or kiss this country goodbye all your kids and grandkids will suffer the worse ………..
 
 
Daniel Feneck 22 hours ago (edited)
Australian Constitution Section 100: Nor abridge right to use water The Commonwealth shall not, by any law or regulation of trade or commerce, abridge the right of a State or of the residents therein to the reasonable use of the waters of rivers for conservation or irrigation. Translation: The government wont by any Trade or Commerce Law shorten/reduce/deprive the State’s & Residents right to “Reasonable use of water of rivers for conservation or irrigation”
 
 
I’d say flood plain harvesting violates this, wouldn’t you agree?
 
 
 
clinton justice 23 hours ago
why do you think they take the guns first
 
 
izabeladab
izabeladab 1 day ago
Water restrictions for you, an endless supply for them: How a foreign corporate giant is snapping up 89 BILLION litres of Australia’s H20 as the country suffers its worst drought ever Singaporean company is selling Australian water for $490m to Canadian fund It comes as the tightest ever water restrictions are imposed on worried citizens Olam is selling 89,085 megalitres of its permanent water rights in Australia By ALISHA ROUSE FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA PUBLISHED: 10:31 EST, 11 December 2019 | UPDATED: 23:53 EST, 11 December 2019 A multi-billion dollar Singaporean food company is selling 89,000 megalitres of Australian water to a Canadian pension fund.  The mega sale of Australian permanent water rights comes as the country is crippled by one of the worst droughts in its history.  On Tuesday, NSW brought in a complete ban on hoses as part of the toughest water restrictions implemented for more than a decade. But no such problem existed for food and agriculture giant Olam International, which sold the 89billion litres of permanent water rights for an astonishing $490 million. The company sold it to an entity associated with the Public Sector Pension Investment Board, one of Canada’s largest pension investment managers, according to Straits Times. It will use the water to irrigate almond trees, in a business venture likely to draw criticism over foreign ownership of farms and water.  The water rights are in the lower Murray-Darling Basin.  The chairman of the Victorian Farmers Federation’s water council, Richard Anderson, told the Sydney Morning Herald: ‘Really, all you’ve got is a change of ownership, it (the water) has gone from a Singapore-owned company to a Canadian pension fund. ‘It’s a big bulk of water but it’s still being used in agriculture. ‘It’s not as if they’ve just come in as a speculator and said ”we’ll go and buy a big patch of water and we’ll trade it every year”.’ In a separate deal, the same Canadian pension fund has bought 12,000 hectares of almond orchards in Victoria, in a move likely to draw criticism of foreign ownership of farms and water. Water restrictions in Sydney, the Blue Mountains and Illawarra were upgraded to level two as dam levels in the region sank to just 45 per cent capacity, the lowest levels since the Millennium Drought took hold in 2003. The crippling drought sees a complete ban on hoses, requiring residents to use a bucket and sponge to wash their cars or a watering can to tend to their gardens. The Bureau of Meteorology has predicted a hot-than-usual summer, with no forecast for significant rain. The sale is understood to be giving Olam a ‘one-time pre-tax capital gain of about $311 million’, the paper reported. The agreement is for 25 years, with the option to renew for another 25.  In March, the government released its foreign ownership of water entitlement register, showing that investors from China and the US had the largest stake in Australia’s foreign-owned water entitlements. It showed that one in 10 water entitlements is foreign owned.  A water entitlement is the right to an ongoing share of water, which can be sold by irrigators, companies or investors.  Acting as a property right, it gives access to an exclusive share of water from a water resource.  This is different to a water allocation, which is the right to access a volume of water for use or trade.  Under level two restrictions, gardens can only be watered before 10am or after 4pm with a watering can or bucket. Smart and drip irrigation systems can only be used for 15 minutes before 10am or after 4pm. Swimming pools and spas will only be allowed to be topped up for 15 minutes a day with a trigger nozzle. A permit will be required before filling a pool that holds more than 500 litres. Residents caught breaking the rules could face a $220 fine. Businesses who breach the restrictions would also face a $550 fine.
 
 
King Kaos
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12:00 the Western Australian doppler radar picked up anomalies that appeared numerous times in 2015, they looked like a worm . There were circular anomalies over the South East of WA , off the coast of the North West of WA and the same anomalies were over the oceans of QLD and NSW … A few links below regarding such anomalies …

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January 8, 2020
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Is he… is he posting the YouTube comment section?

January 9, 2020
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Yeah I mean who wants to hear alternative points of view from the OP who foolishly thinks the environmentalists are SOLELY to blame? Who wants to hear more than one side of the argument? I guess I’m the only open minded one here? Who wants to talk about government corruption in OTHER realms and the real conspiracy to control the weather with things like chemtrails and HAARP to supplement the corruption on the ground? Who wants to talk about politicians selling off Australian water supplies and breaking the constitution? Who wants to talk about Communist China messing around in Australia’s back yard?

https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/01/has-australia-sold-its-water-rights-to-china.html

Who ACTUALLY wants to discuss politics on this board? What 17%er Juggalo actually has an attention span and likes to read? LOL.

January 9, 2020
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Most of us are busy with lives, and I personally enjoy getting better sources than the YouTube comment sections or dishonest propagandists like Breitbart.

 

Weird question, but where exactly should one draw the line between open mindedness and time wasting idiocy? If people were arguing over the existence of water, are you going to read every single alternative opinion on the existence of water? Are you willing to keep an open mind to the idea that water doesn’t actually exist and what we’ve been drinking is some kind of genetically engineered synthesis of water? Would you search across the web and bombard us with unsupported claims from unprofessionals with articles that are not peer reviewed of ‘proof’ that water doesn’t actually exist? Then are you going to arrogantly stroke your own ego in the face of people who refuse to waste time on it by claiming to be an open minded intellectual who’s trying to hear both sides of the argument? Then are people going to invoke Orwellian comparisons that they don’t understand by comparing us to the ‘Thought Police’ by not wanting to give any kind of time or attention to the idiotic dribble of the ‘water doesn’t exist’ conspiracy theory?

Can you imagine though? We start running out of natural resources for drinking water and there’s a whole movement of pseudoscience scam artists claiming that droughts are manufactured by the government that was synthesizing this liquid that never naturally existed in the first place and you’d be the first one to bombard us with 50 links all saying the same exact thing claiming that we’re full of shit for not wasting time on the other 47 links. Then we’re struggling to move our economy and society towards a solution to providing water for the people because we’re still, for some stupid reason, arguing over the existence of water.

January 9, 2020
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Get a decent source and format the content better and maybe I’ll read it.

When you read a book it’s generally separated into chapters and paragraphs. There are visual ways to distinguish them, this increases readability.

I literally revived a topic asking about what books people are reading.

Why don’t you contribute there? Show us what you’re into besides these conspiracy theories. 

 

You get fixated on these issues and then post walls and walls of text and get mad when people don’t read them. Then you insult us with an insult that isn’t even related to the discussion at hand.

 

Almost every post you’ve made in the last month has been inflammatory and abrasive in some way. It’s like you ONLY post to get into an argument. That’s not a healthy way to live, my guy.

January 9, 2020
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Pigg said
Almost every post you’ve made in the last month has been inflammatory and abrasive in some way. It’s like you ONLY post to get into an argument. That’s not a healthy way to live, my guy.  

Ooof, I relate a little too much with that. I try, though, I try.

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Pigg, don’t act like you’re open minded, and then admit to ignoring something because it’s a “conspiracy theory.” That’s a weak excuse to not read something.

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vinyllover said
…Who ACTUALLY wants to discuss politics on this board? What… Juggalo actually has an attention span and likes to read?LOL.  

I enjoy learning & reading in a solution-oriented way (& let’s not forget the hardcore funny. It makes the world go round, even if ur a flat-Earthtard.) Jordan Peterson lost me when he cucked on Kavanaugh, but I have “Cleaned My Room, Eh” and am checking myself daily to make the world a better place. I love Australia, & if their corrupt politicians are selling off their country like a Clintonian garage sale it’s up to them to put some heads on spikes. Get busy, mates.

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