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Democrats/Liberals have become the party of intolerance and hate in America
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While not so much on here, I have found some on twitter (only a few - most just block me the instant they see I have an opposing viewpoint) that will have a discourse about differing political views. I have had some good conversations from some willing to "reach across the isle". Being right-wing myself and listening to the concerns of the left plus expressing my concerns to those, I can see that there are some, including myself, that fall victim to media propaganda. The media is partially to blame for this divisiveness. It's not hard for me to fall into it since I have blocked news outlets on my TV that aren't Fox and basically only watch Tucker Carson, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and my internet "news" is Infowars, Breitbart, PrisonPlanet. That leads to a very right leaning viewpoint. Going forward, the best thing would be to look at healing the divisiveness. It can be tough since there are many #NeverTrump-ers that refuse to heal anything until Trump is destroyed through any means (legal or not) possible. And not to place the blame on one side, there are many #NeverHillary people that would be doing the same thing if she had won the electoral vote.

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So you stick with the most biased and the most mendacious news platform out there... even admitting that you only watch it because they tell you what you want to hear... don't rationalize your sheepery.

Fucking infowars? The people that are probably trying to shove pizza gate down your throat? No wonder you bought that fake poll thing bullshit. They force fed you that bullshit with out giving you a proper explanation on what over sampling is and you went a long with it because it's 'us vs. them' despite how easy it is to find out what over sampling is, that every poll does it, and why it's done.

Then you guys of course are going to defend every single thing Trump does, as if his cabinet picks are not complete and total trash that will corrupt our system proving my point from the beginning of the election when I was telling people it's either vote for the candidate corrupted by greedy corporations or cut the middle man and elect the greedy corporations.

Don't forget that you spent a large portion of time explaining how you could never vote for a democrat because the democrats are your nemesis or something. Because you are a sheep. Sorry, you're another fiddle being played in the orchestra that is American politics. Fucked up part is they aren't even clever about it anymore, they put in the most half assed efforts to convince you guys of bullshit and you guys just blindly nod a long ignoring every blaring glaring fact that stares you right in the face. Kind of like the abused house wife in denial over the fact that her husband is cheating on her.

This whole thread is complete irony in it's self.

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This whole thing seems vaguely familiar. So what do we do lucem? We are forced to pick a side. It has nothing to do with being a sheep. We either participate in it or we dont. If we do there is a chance that things go our way.

Not participating doesn't do a god damn thing for anybody except for the person not participating so they can feel warm inside knowing they didn't take part in the destruction of our nation.

We all know this two party shit ain't cutting it. We have to work with what we have until shit changes.

I swear to Bob this is the last I'm chiming in on politics for a while. For real this time.

Somebody make a dope thread. We need more of those

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King Lucem Ferre said
So you stick with the most biased and the most mendacious news platform out there... even admitting that you only watch it because they tell you what you want to hear... don't rationalize your sheepery.

I enjoy it. It is entertainment for me.

Fucking infowars? The people that are probably trying to shove pizza gate down your throat? No wonder you bought that fake poll thing bullshit. They force fed you that bullshit with out giving you a proper explanation on what over sampling is and you went a long with it because it's 'us vs. them' despite how easy it is to find out what over sampling is, that every poll does it, and why it's done.

I never got into the whole Pizzagate thing. I even (in another thread) said how I just couldn't get behind that one.

The polls thing I got from the actual polls websites and from WikiLeaks. I even posted the emails and documents where they asked the polling companies directly to poll more democrat, women, and minorities than white, males, and republicans. One of the documents I linked was from Atlas Polling and they directly said they were going to do directed targeting to ensure the numbers were in Hillary's favor. When it comes to Breitbart or Infowars, I don't use them as sources for the stuff I post unless I am trying to be funny.

Then you guys of course are going to defend every single thing Trump does, as if his cabinet picks are not complete and total trash that will corrupt our system proving my point from the beginning of the election when I was telling people it's either vote for the candidate corrupted by greedy corporations or cut the middle man and elect the greedy corporations.

Again, while I will support Trump and defend some things, I have also criticized some of his actions. But you are correct on his cabinet picks, as I do like the people he has picked. Time will tell if they are bad for the job.

Don't forget that you spent a large portion of time explaining how you could never vote for a democrat because the democrats are your nemesis or something. Because you are a sheep. Sorry, you're another fiddle being played in the orchestra that is American politics. Fucked up part is they aren't even clever about it anymore, they put in the most half assed efforts to convince you guys of bullshit and you guys just blindly nod a long ignoring every blaring glaring fact that stares you right in the face. Kind of like the abused house wife in denial over the fact that her husband is cheating on her.

This whole thread is complete irony in it's self.  

I have felt I have come a long way since the start of the whole election thing and tried to take a more open viewpoint while still keeping a right-wing leaning. At first, I was total far-right with no attention given to any alternate views. I think I have progressed well into listening more to all sides from PEOPLE - not MEDIA.

Just what I see. Of course, I am not seeing myself through others eyes so I will take your views into consideration and incorporate what I can, when I can, to the best of my ability.

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still, he pretty much nailed ya to the hitchpost with that one, psyral. 

youre lyin to yourself.  or lyin to us.  or both.  point bein, theres some lie in there. 

 

if you [any of you] just gotta pick a team to boost, why not go with the team that already actually likes you? 

think anybody who gets close to the top of american government gives a shit about a juggalo?  fuck no. 

these fucks dont give people like us any passes just cuz we hype for em and send em money. 

trump would have you shot if he could.  you, dumbass. 

hillary would put your ass in prison for life, if she could.  you, dumbass. 

 

consider that to be some extremism?  even if it is [it is], it aint implausible. 

all it would take, is the right people whispering into the right ears, and bam, youre a violent gangbanging junkie threat to our children.  who has to be dealt with. 

sound like the kinda party you wanna pay for? 

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Slumerican502 said  
Somebody make a dope thread. We need more of those   

this is kinda like merlin walkin up to me and sayin, 'do a trick'. 

okay, ill try sumn. 

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... but no, actual juggalos are tying themselves to obvious shitheels that would/will piss all over us. 

in fact, they are doin the pissin for them, cuz they are pure suckers, doin scut work for the same assholes that fucked em up to begin with.   

Speaking for the inglorious basterd Juggalo culture, we're not all pissy victims. We'll scalp a bitch.

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King Lucem Ferre said
So you stick with the most biased and the most mendacious news platform out there...

CNN has been caught red handed working hand in hand with the DNC, yet FNC is the most biased? Liberal brainwashed level 1000. Think for yourself... stop following the herd.

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This whole thing seems vaguely familiar. So what do we do lucem? We are forced to pick a side. It has nothing to do with being a sheep. We either participate in it or we dont. If we do there is a chance that things go our way.

Not participating doesn't do a god damn thing for anybody except for the person not participating so they can feel warm inside knowing they didn't take part in the destruction of our nation.

We all know this two party shit ain't cutting it. We have to work with what we have until shit changes.

I swear to Bob this is the last I'm chiming in on politics for a while. For real this time.

Somebody make a dope thread. We need more of those  

You're not forced to pick a side. You could pick a third party candidate. Political leanings doesn't matter to me. It's the fact that people are so sheepishly loyal to their party that they are willing to support Trump or Hillary despite knowing how crooked and horrible they are.

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So you stick with the most biased and the most mendacious news platform out there...

CNN has been caught red handed working hand in hand with the DNC, yet FNC is the most biased? Liberal brainwashed level 1000. Think for yourself... stop following the herd.  

Remember when I defended CNN? Neither do I. Regardless, yes Fox news is the most biased and most dishonest of all of the news outlets. Instead of defending them, perhaps you should demand a better representation for your party. Because they make you look bad. And me, not being the retard sheep you are, I know Republicans aren't all that dumb.

 

Either way, typical brain washed Republican, dismiss criticism and make it all about the liberals.

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I enjoy it. It is entertainment for me.

And you use it as your main source for news. Wa la, you are as much as a propaganda eater as Rob.

The polls thing I got from the actual polls websites and from WikiLeaks. I even posted the emails and documents where they asked the polling companies directly to poll more democrat, women, and minorities than white, males, and republicans. One of the documents I linked was from Atlas Polling and they directly said they were going to do directed targeting to ensure the numbers were in Hillary's favor. 

No, you posted one email the one where they said they were going to send her over sampled emails. I don't even know if you even read them or just took them as "ooh I got proof the other side is bullshit!" as you watch Fox news who shoves their polls down people's throats as if it represents the American public. It doesn't. One thing I definitely did learn from political science is that you can NEVER trust the polls because there is ALWAYS a bias. Whether it's the way they worded the question to trick you into saying something you don't really feel or who they poll because where and who and when you take a poll effects everything. Like, perhaps people who are more likely to take polls are also more likely to vote a certain way too.

When it comes to Breitbart or Infowars, I don't use them as sources for the stuff I post unless I am trying to be funny.

Then why did you name them as your main news sources?

Again, while I will support Trump and defend some things, I have also criticized some of his actions. But you are correct on his cabinet picks, as I do like the people he has picked. Time will tell if they are bad for the job.

Hardly. You softly criticized his actions. You defend Trump like a die hard democrat defends Obama. You point out a little flaw here or there, but defend it and act as if he is the next best thing to perfection.

I have felt I have come a long way since the start of the whole election thing and tried to take a more open viewpoint while still keeping a right-wing leaning.

I'll give you that after my rant about our government needing all sides of the political spectrum to properly represent America you started thinking that way to instead of thinking that we needed a pure Republican system in play. And you're the least malicious and easiest to discuss things with.

At first, I was total far-right with no attention given to any alternate views. I think I have progressed well into listening more to all sides from PEOPLE - not MEDIA.

Bullshit. You just listed the media outlets you got your Hillary email shit from. Despite knowing how dishonest media is especially after this election I still trust them more than the average person because the average person is a fucking liar, they are full of shit, and more often than not they don't get all the facts straight because information starts to warp as it goes from person to person until I'm hearing that Obama declared martial law. Trust me, I've been hearing about Obama declaring martial law since 2011. Then again, I also don't have a political bias and just want the truth so I take in media from both sides if I can and use my critical thinking to make my own decisions.

Just what I see. Of course, I am not seeing myself through others eyes so I will take your views into consideration and incorporate what I can, when I can, to the best of my ability.  

In my view, you're like the Nazi that sneaks food behind the other Nazi's backs and feeds it to starving Jews they captured. (It's a bit of an extreme analogy, but it's the best I got for now) So while I appreciate your kindness, at the end of the day you're still die hard aligned with one party and against the next. You still fail to admit that Trump fucking sucks as bad if not more than Hillary.

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Speaking for the inglorious basterd Juggalo culture, we're not all pissy victims. We'll scalp a bitch.  

Oh please, go on whining about how hard your life was again. Please. We totally need another inspirational story about how you came from a rough background, and turned at all around to become a frigid sniveling cunt on an internet forum.

Big LOL at you talking about scalping the American government. Good luck with that shit. Hate BLM because they riot when no justice is shown to the cops killing off their people, but talk about killing politicians and law enforcement if your ICP fan club is labeled a gang. My god, you're retarded.

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still, he pretty much nailed ya to the hitchpost with that one, psyral. 

youre lyin to yourself.  or lyin to us.  or both.  point bein, theres some lie in there. 

 

if you [any of you] just gotta pick a team to boost, why not go with the team that already actually likes you? 

think anybody who gets close to the top of american government gives a shit about a juggalo?  fuck no. 

these fucks dont give people like us any passes just cuz we hype for em and send em money. 

trump would have you shot if he could.  you, dumbass. 

hillary would put your ass in prison for life, if she could.  you, dumbass. 

 

consider that to be some extremism?  even if it is [it is], it aint implausible. 

all it would take, is the right people whispering into the right ears, and bam, youre a violent gangbanging junkie threat to our children.  who has to be dealt with. 

sound like the kinda party you wanna pay for?   

Wait,  there is a party down with the clown? 

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Nyro said

Wait,  there is a party down with the clown?  

Maybe. What ever party I support is down with the clown. I swear.

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YakkAttack said

Liberal brainwashed... stop following the herd.  

and then...

King Lucem Ferre said

being the retard sheep you are... brain washed Republican, dismiss criticism and make it all about the liberals.

you copy my post near verbatim... and say we dismiss criticism and make it about liberals... Yet you dismissed my criticism and made it about republicans. WOW! lololol lolwackywackylol game over buddy... game over.

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King Lucem Ferre said

Psyral Infection said

I enjoy it. It is entertainment for me.

And you use it as your main source for news. Wa la, you are as much as a propaganda eater as Rob.

Yes. I like the Republican party and I like Donald Trump. I am ok with watching what I enjoy and feeding on the propaganda.

The polls thing I got from the actual polls websites and from WikiLeaks. I even posted the emails and documents where they asked the polling companies directly to poll more democrat, women, and minorities than white, males, and republicans. One of the documents I linked was from Atlas Polling and they directly said they were going to do directed targeting to ensure the numbers were in Hillary's favor.

No, you posted one email the one where they said they were going to send her over sampled emails. I don't even know if you even read them or just took them as "ooh I got proof the other side is bullshit!" as you watch Fox news who shoves their polls down people's throats as if it represents the American public. It doesn't. One thing I definitely did learn from political science is that you can NEVER trust the polls because there is ALWAYS a bias. Whether it's the way they worded the question to trick you into saying something you don't really feel or who they poll because where and who and when you take a poll effects everything. Like, perhaps people who are more likely to take polls are also more likely to vote a certain way too.

I posted several WikiLeaks articles and links to full email attachments. And I did read them. Krunk can attest that I would spend many hours every day pouring through email dumps. It was one of my duties. I never got the information from Fox even though Fox usually reported on it later in the day or the next day.

When it comes to Breitbart or Infowars, I don't use them as sources for the stuff I post unless I am trying to be funny.

Then why did you name them as your main news sources?

Because they are my source of most "news", if you want to call them that. I try to avoid linking to those sources on here because of the obvious bias they have. I have done so, on a few occasions, usually when trying to be humorous.

Again, while I will support Trump and defend some things, I have also criticized some of his actions. But you are correct on his cabinet picks, as I do like the people he has picked. Time will tell if they are bad for the job.

Hardly. You softly criticized his actions. You defend Trump like a die hard democrat defends Obama. You point out a little flaw here or there, but defend it and act as if he is the next best thing to perfection.

Soft criticism? Ok. I'll accept that. I like Trump and it is my opinion that I think he is the best thing for the country right now.

At first, I was total far-right with no attention given to any alternate views. I think I have progressed well into listening more to all sides from PEOPLE - not MEDIA.

Bullshit. You just listed the media outlets you got your Hillary email shit from. Despite knowing how dishonest media is especially after this election I still trust them more than the average person because the average person is a fucking liar, they are full of shit, and more often than not they don't get all the facts straight because information starts to warp as it goes from person to person until I'm hearing that Obama declared martial law. Trust me, I've been hearing about Obama declaring martial law since 2011. Then again, I also don't have a political bias and just want the truth so I take in media from both sides if I can and use my critical thinking to make my own decisions.

From previously, I never got the email stuff from the media outlets. I scoured the WikiLeaks database daily for that stuff. The media outlets are just my form of entertainment.

Just what I see. Of course, I am not seeing myself through others eyes so I will take your views into consideration and incorporate what I can, when I can, to the best of my ability.

In my view, you're like the Nazi that sneaks food behind the other Nazi's backs and feeds it to starving Jews they captured. (It's a bit of an extreme analogy, but it's the best I got for now) So while I appreciate your kindness, at the end of the day you're still die hard aligned with one party and against the next. You still fail to admit that Trump fucking sucks as bad if not more than Hillary.

Yes. I will probably always be Republican and I will only admit Trump sucks after he is in office and fails. Currently, I am happy with what he is doing. Many people aren't.

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Speaking for the inglorious basterd Juggalo culture, we're not all pissy victims. We'll scalp a bitch.

Oh please, go on whining about how hard your life was again. Please. We totally need another inspirational story about how you came from a rough background, and turned at all around to become a frigid sniveling cunt on an internet forum.

Big LOL at you talking about scalping the American government. Good luck with that shit. Hate BLM because they riot when no justice is shown to the cops killing off their people, but talk about killing politicians and law enforcement if your ICP fan club is labeled a gang. My god, you're retarded.

I am going to rush to the defense on this since she and I talk like this with eachother. I think you are taking what she said too seriously. Some things are just for entertainment, some are informative, some are speculative, some are a mixture.

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I am going to rush to the defense on this since she and I talk like this with eachother. I think you are taking what she said too seriously. Some things are just for entertainment, some are informative, some are speculative, some are a mixture.  

and all lumped together under the category 'krunk said'. 

again, this is why you dont front with people, ever.  they consequently wont know whether or not youre frontin. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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I agreed with a lot of what Lucem said, albeit more mildly. I don't agree with what he said about Krunk though. She is making a movie reference. The Inglorious Basterds scalped Nazis in the movie. I would think that would be fairly common knowledge at this point. I know the written word leaves little roomore for tone, but I think Lucem went a little extreme over a joke.

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Its funny how only in a few months the image of liberals and the democratic party has been changed to the party of hate and intolerance for others believes and views. This election has really shown them in their true light... true disdain for anyone who doesn't hold their views. There is no place for that in America (weather its democrat or republican) its just nice having the hypocrisy of liberals finally being exposed for who they are... HATEFUL. But the good news is... they've been cucked... enjoy the next 4 years of winning. #triggered P.s. and lets not forget... A REPUBLICAN president is the first in history to take the white house and from day one be in support of LGBT rights. That has to really sting  for the liberals, lol. wheres your H8 now?  

I think you're mixing a few things up.

Donald trump does not support LGBT rights and it's very clear in his appointment of specific positions. Period. Hands down. You do not get to claim to support LGBT people and then appoint someone who tried to make it illegal for gay people to file marriage licenses. Ever. You can be as bigotted as you want, but don't dare pretend to support LGBT people. 

And we don't have disdain for people who have "different opinions". We have disdain for people who wish to severely limit our rights as human beings in the nation. 

Like, we don't say that conservatives hate us because we oppose their expansion of the second amendment, and we definitely don't hate people just because of their views on guns. It's when it's about limiting the rights of people, real world, actual, living people, that we have a problem.

If you think gay marriage is a sin, then fine. don't fucking get gay married. But when you try to limit my right to marry who the fuck I want, then yeah, I'm gonna be angry. 

How would you like it if conservatives had to live under a religious rule put forth by muslims? No more pork. Anything that is from a pig is now illegal, because it's against my religion.

that sucks, right? 

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

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Donald trump does not support LGBT rights

someone... please... please, somebody... tell me this guy isnt serious right now, lol. ugh. answer this question... is the sky blue? I wanna do a study on the liberal thought process. this guy is living in the bizarro world.

You do not get to claim to support LGBT people and then appoint someone who tried to make it illegal for gay people to file marriage licenses.

Umm... Yes. you actually do get to. He's the president... he makes the big decisions. Is he suppose to vet every single member on his team to make sure they have the EXACT same outlook on every matter? Look at the Obama team and the amount of difference of opinions there... yet I don't hear you saying anything.

And we don't have disdain for people who have "different opinions". We have disdain for people who wish to severely limit our rights as human beings in the nation. 

and because of this disdain for severely limiting your rights... there is mass violence, riots, and looting... not to mention its prominently the innocent being effected. But yeah, thats not hate at all. #LiberalBizarroWorld

Face it... America is fed up with your bullshit and corruption.... for fuck sake... you guys nominated Hillary!!! AHAHHHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

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yakk, quit bein a punk. 

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