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April 15, 2013
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Even Trump’s indictments haven’t shattered the deadlock between the parties. Here’s why
Former President Donald Trump’s mounting legal jeopardy is raising a stark political question: can anything break the sustained electoral stalemate that has left the country divided almost exactly in half between the Republican and Democratic coalitions?
Trump is facing a swarm of criminal accusations unprecedented for an active presidential candidate, much less a former president. But during this ordeal, his lead in the 2024 GOP presidential primary has solidified. And while polls have highlighted some clear warning signs for him as a general election nominee, mostly they point to another closely fought contest, with President Joe Biden usually holding a small overall lead and a tiny handful of precariously balanced swing states likely to decide the outcome. A New York Times/Siena College poll released on Tuesday, however, found Trump and Biden tied in a hypothetical matchup at 43 percent.
Several big dynamics are converging, including a slowdown in inflation and acceleration of Trump’s legal troubles, that could provide Democrats a tailwind next year, particularly in the presidential race. But all of these forces face the immovable object of the entrenched demographic and geographic divisions that have produced one of the longest periods in American history in which neither party has been able to establish a durable or decisive advantage over the other.
The parties now represent coalitions with such divergent visions of America’s future, particularly whether it welcomes or resists racial and cultural change, that it’s unclear what could allow one side to break out from the close competition between them. And that includes the prospect of Republicans choosing a presidential nominee who could be shuttling between the campaign trail and the courtroom.
“The two political parties are farther apart on average than they have been in our lifetime,” said Lynn Vavreck, a UCLA political scientist and co-author of books on the 2016 and 2020 elections. “That makes it harder for people to think about crossing over to the other side.”
Democrats have won the popular vote in seven of the past eight presidential elections – something no party has done since the formation of the modern party system in 1828. That suggests the Democratic coalition, on a national basis, is somewhat larger than the GOP’s.
But the Democrats’ difficulty competing outside of large metropolitan areas, as well as the small state bias in the Senate and the Electoral College, has allowed the GOP to remain highly competitive in this era. In almost every critical dimension, the political system is now defined by stasis and stand-off. In this century, for instance, majorities for either side in the House and Senate have consistently been much smaller than they were in the late 20th century. Each party has now established a virtually impregnable sphere of influence across a large number of states in which they dominate elections up and down the ballot-from the presidential contest through Congress and state races. Forty of the 50 states, or 80% of them, have voted the same way in each of the past four presidential elections; that’s a higher percentage of states than voted the same way even in the four consecutive elections won by Franklin Roosevelt from 1932 through 1944.
The latest measure of this deadlock came last week in a joint survey by Tony Fabrizio and John Anzalone, the lead pollsters in 2020 respectively for Trump and Biden. In a study for AARP, the giant advocacy group for older Americans, the two surveyed attitudes in the 40 congressional districts considered the most competitive by the non-partisan Cook Political Report.
The results pointed to an electoral competition in which the concrete has settled very firmly. The poll found voters divided exactly in half over whether they intended to vote for Democrats or Republicans in the next Congressional election. And it found Biden leading Trump by four percentage points across these 40 districts: that was exactly Biden’s advantage over Trump in these seats in 2020.
The Anzalone/Fabrizio poll for AARP is just one poll, of course, but it’s consistent with the broad current of recent public opinion surveys. While surveys now usually show Biden leading Trump, the president’s margin rarely exceeds his four-point margin of victory from 2020. The latest national NBC poll, conducted by another bipartisan team of prominent Republican and Democratic pollsters, also found Biden leading Trump by the exact same four percentage point margin he amassed in 2020.
Bill McInturff, the lead GOP pollster on the survey, points out that in the poll Trump led 93%-1% among those who voted for him in 2020, while Biden led 93%-3% among his 2020 supporters. “The two partisan coalitions are locked down and difficult to move,” McInturff said. Unexpected changes in the electorate’s composition – for instance whether youth turnout is higher or lower than anticipated – would be more likely to change the outcome in a rematch than movement toward or away from each man among the key voter groups, McInturff believes.
Vavreck, the UCLA political scientist, and her co-authors John Sides and Chris Tausanovitch, argue in The Bitter End, their book on the 2020 election, that American politics is likely to remain this closely balanced for years. The reason, they believe, is that voters are now choosing between the parties primarily on their views about changes in America’s fundamental identity, rather than their assessment of current conditions, or even differences in economic and foreign policy priorities. And on those identity-focused issues – from abortion to LGBTQ rights – the chasm between the parties has grown so large that very few voters can envision switching sides, even to register a protest over the country’s immediate direction.
“Maybe in the 1980s,” Vavreck said, voters could “give the other side a go” when they were disenchanted with the incumbent president’s performance “because they weren’t that far apart on those [identity] issues.” But now, she adds, the gulf between the parties on cultural and racial issues is so great and “are central to the kind of society and community that people want to live in, that you can’t cross over because you think, say, that interest rates are too high. Because if you put the other side in, they are going to build a world you don’t want to live in, even if you can buy a house.”
Vavreck said nothing demonstrates the durability of this political alignment more than the political impact of the COVID pandemic, or lack thereof. In the early 2000s, she notes, political analysts might have predicted that an event so disruptive might have rearranged the public into new allegiances, as other momentous events like the Great Depression did. Instead, the pandemic quickly evolved into just another front in the preexisting culture war lines of division between the parties. “It became politicized and subsumed by this existing dimension of conflict about identity things very quickly,” she said.
Much the same may be happening with Trump’s cascading legal troubles. A detailed national poll released last week by Bright Line Watch, a collaborative of political scientists studying threats to American democracy, found these momentous developments also slotting almost entirely into the existing partisan divide.
In that survey, just one-fourth of Republicans said Trump had committed a crime in his handling of classified documents, while only about half that many Republicans believe he broke the law on January 6 or in his broader effort to overturn the 2020 result. Only about one-in-six Republicans thought he committed a crime in paying hush money to adult film star Stormy Daniels during the 2016 campaign. The vast majority of Republicans said the prosecutors were singling out Trump for charges they would not bring against other defendants and fully three-fifths of GOP partisans said they now consider the January 6 riot to be “legitimate protest.” The vast majority of Democrats, by contrast, took the opposite position on all those questions.
The best news for Trump in the Bright Line Watch survey was that on each specific issue around which he’s facing a criminal investigation, fewer than half of independents believed he has committed a crime. In a less specific question, a NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll released Sunday found that only about half of independents agreed that he has “done something illegal” in any of the conduct that prosecutors are investigating.
But these findings may understate the potential risk to Trump if the cases against him move to trial before the November 2024 election. An earlier NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll found that while a substantial majority of Republicans said they would like to see a second Trump term even if he’s convicted of a crime, three-fourths of independents said they would not want him returned to the White House under those circumstances. So did about three-fourths of adults younger than 45 and people of color and a resounding four-fifths of college-educated White voters.
Anzalone said the survey he conducted with Fabrizio across the 40 most competitive Congressional districts showed that Trump’s behavior was already suppressing his support. (Fabrizio was not available for comment on the poll.) Strikingly, voters across those districts gave Trump a notably higher approval rating for his time in office (49%) than they now give to Biden (just 43%). Yet Biden, as noted above, still maintained his 2020 lead over Trump in these seats of four percentage points.
You can see [Trump] underperforms his job rating and that’s because there are people who may like his agenda but do not want to go back to the chaos,” Anzalone said. “There is a chaos factor here, a behavior factor, a concern that he might actually go to prison.”
The possible public reaction to Trump’s indictments is one of several emerging dynamics that could tilt, if not shatter, the balance of power between the parties through the 2024 election. On balance, many Democrats are confident these factors are more likely to strengthen Biden than the eventual GOP nominee, especially if it’s Trump.
Simon Rosenberg, the long-time Democratic strategist who was proven right as the most prominent public skeptic of the “red wave” theory in 2022, argues that Trump, in particular, is unlikely to match his 47% of the vote from 2020 if the GOP nominates him again. “We are starting at a place where it is far more likely in my mind that he gets to 45% than he gets to 49%,” Rosenberg said. “And if he gets to 45%, we have the opportunity to get up to 55%. The key for Democrats is we have to imagine growing and expanding our coalition for it to happen.”
Beyond the personal doubts about Trump among voters outside the GOP coalition, Democrats such as Rosenberg and Anzalone see several other factors that give Biden a chance to widen his winning margin from the last election. Perhaps the most important of those are the slowdown in inflation, continued strength of the job market, and signs of accelerating recovery in the stock market – all of which are already stirring some gains in consumer confidence. Democrats are encouraged as well by recent declines in the number of undocumented immigrants attempting to cross the Southern border and the crime rate in big cities – two issues on which polls show substantial disappointment in Biden’s performance.
Another change since 2020 is the broad public backlash, especially in Democratic-leaning and swing states, against the 2022 Supreme Court decision ending the constitutional right to abortion, which Trump has directly claimed credit for engineering through his nominations to the court. Finally, compared to 2020, the electorate in 2024 will likely include significantly more young people in Generation Z, a group that is preponderantly supporting Democrats, and fewer Whites without a college degree, now the GOP’s best group.
All of these factors, Rosenberg said, create “an opportunity” for Democrats to amass a bigger majority next year than most consider possible. But to get there, he argues, the party will need to think bigger, particularly in its efforts to mobilize younger voters aging into the electorate. “It’s a man on the moon kind of mindset,” Rosenberg said. “We have to want to go there to get there. We have to build a strategy to take away political real estate from the Republicans because they are giving us the opportunity to take it away from them.”
Many Republican strategists privately agree that the combined effect of the January 6 insurrection and the court’s abortion decision will make it difficult for Trump to expand his support from 2020 if the GOP nominates him again. But they note that the fact that Trump has stayed so close to Biden in the polls, despite all his difficulties, shows how reluctant voters are to reelect the sitting president to a second term.
Surveys have found widespread concern among voters that Biden is too old to effectively handle the presidency. And, despite the improving financial news, surveys continue to show pervasive disenchantment with his economic performance: the Fabrizio/Anazlone poll, for instance, found voters in those competitive districts preferred the GOP over Democrats on the economy and inflation by imposing margins of nearly 20 percentage points. If a third party siphons away voters negative about both Trump and Biden, or turnout sags among young voters unenthusiastic about the President, some Republicans see a path for Trump to win even if he cannot expand his vote from 2020.
Anzalone, though, said that in the few swing states that will decide 2024, Democrats can cut into the GOP’s economic advantage with paid advertising making voters more aware of Biden’s accomplishments on key economic issues, including his success at promoting private investment into clean energy and other manufacturing facilities, the measures he’s passed to lower drug prices, and his push for federal aid that would allow more seniors to live independently at home – an idea the AARP poll shows is very popular among older Americans. Rosenberg notes that in those few key swing states – including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin – Democrats ran unexpectedly well in 2022, as an unusually large number of voters dissatisfied with the economy or down on Biden still voted for the party anyway because they considered the GOP alternative too extreme.
It’s another question though whether any of these factors might provide Biden a big enough cushion to breathe easy at any point, even if the GOP nominates Trump while he is ensnared in multiple criminal proceedings. “Your best bet on what the election polling is going to look like in ‘x’ number of months,” said Vavreck, “is the same as what it looks like today.”
Still, McInturff predicts that a Biden-Trump rematch could generate unexpected twists, not because it splits the electorate in new ways, but because so many voters are unenthusiastic about both men. “Actually, the Biden/Trump rerun is more likely to produce surprising results as voters have made clear they do not want to see this rematch,” he said.
That reluctance, McInturff maintains, could trigger all sorts of unusual outcomes, such as a lower turnout, or higher than usual support for third-party candidates. But even as indictments accumulate around Trump like snow drifts, the evidence so far suggests one thing another Biden-Trump race may not do is allow either party to break out from the trench warfare that has defined their modern competition.
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Mr. Popo, norsemoron10:59 am
April 15, 2013
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Judge rules Trump false election claims while in office covered by presidential immunity
A Pennsylvania state judge ruled Monday that an election worker cannot sue former President Trump over statements he made sowing doubt in the 2020 election results while in office, finding the statements are protected by presidential immunity.
Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas Judge Michael Erdos said Trump’ had immunity’s immunity covered a tweet he issued and comments he made remotely from the White House during a Pennsylvania state Senate committee hearing in November 2020. The statements, made without evidence, claimed fraud in Pennsylvania’s election tabulations.
“Other legal proceedings may examine the propriety of his statements and actions while he was the President and whether, as the plaintiffs in this and other cases contend, it was this conduct which served as the actual threat to our democracy,” Erdos ruled. “But this case is not the proper place to do so. Here, Trump is entitled to Presidential immunity.”
James Savage, a Pennsylvania voting machine supervisor in the 2020 election, filed two lawsuits — which have since been consolidated — alleging that Trump, Rudy Giuliani, two poll watchers and others conspired to defame him. Savage says their statements led him to receive death threats and suffer two heart attacks.
A Pennsylvania state judge ruled Monday that an election worker cannot sue former President Trump over statements he made sowing doubt in the 2020 election results while in office, finding the statements are protected by presidential immunity.
Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas Judge Michael Erdos said Trump’ had immunity’s immunity covered a tweet he issued and comments he made remotely from the White House during a Pennsylvania state Senate committee hearing in November 2020. The statements, made without evidence, claimed fraud in Pennsylvania’s election tabulations.
“Other legal proceedings may examine the propriety of his statements and actions while he was the President and whether, as the plaintiffs in this and other cases contend, it was this conduct which served as the actual threat to our democracy,” Erdos ruled. “But this case is not the proper place to do so. Here, Trump is entitled to Presidential immunity.”
James Savage, a Pennsylvania voting machine supervisor in the 2020 election, filed two lawsuits — which have since been consolidated — alleging that Trump, Rudy Giuliani, two poll watchers and others conspired to defame him. Savage says their statements led him to receive death threats and suffer two heart attacks.
Erdos ruled Trump has immunity for the tweet and the remarks at the state Senate hearing because both statements were made while he was serving as president. But the lawsuit also contains claims over a letter Trump wrote to the House Jan. 6 committee last October, which Trump is not immune from as it was written after leaving office.
Erdos ruled the two earlier statements were part of Trump’s official duties, as he was speaking to the public on matters of public concern.
“Here, then-President Trump’s Gettysburg remarks and his tweet were public,” Erdos wrote. “Moreover, the topic of these statements—claims from third parties and the President himself about irregularities in the Presidential election which on their face called into question the integrity of the election and whether now-President Joseph Biden had been duly elected—was undoubtedly a matter of great public concern.”
Trump potentially faces a looming indictment in the Justice Department’s probe of the transfer of power following the 2020 election and the lead up to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot. Trump’s unfounded claims of mass electoral fraud are also the subject of several other civil lawsuits, which remain tied up in other courts and for which he has similarly asserted immunity.
“We are pleased with the Court’s decision to honor the long-standing principle of Presidential Immunity,” Trump legal spokeswoman Alina Habba said in a statement.
“Today, the Court made it clear that it is well within the President’s discretion to address the integrity of our election without fear of liability,” Habba continued. “We expect that the rest of Mr. Savage’s claims will similarly be disposed of as they are without merit.”
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Mr. Popo, norsemoron11:24 am
April 18, 2014
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The funny thing is he doesn’t have immunity for his crimes. Hell he lost the last election and tried to instigate an insurrection. All because he developed a bad publicity for himself. Bad publicity is still bad. Just the vocal minority of his supporters don’t understand what he actually did and how dumb they sound supporting him like he’s the second coming of white baby Jesus.
A rapist, child molester, dipshit of a politician and all around short and massively obese Oompa Loompa has support of the easily fooled go figure. Hell Smack doesn’t even know what calisthenics is. He thinks Mike Tyson was a cheerleader in his prime because he doesn’t know what calisthenics is. That’s just an example of how dumb the Trump supporters are on here.
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2:47 pm
April 15, 2013
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Trump’s $100 million PAC has burned through nearly all of its cash
Former President Donald Trump’s once-formidable and lucrative political action committee is down to $3 million on hand while committees allied with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and President Joe Biden have well over $100 million combined ready to deploy, new data shows.
Trump’s Save America PAC raised over $15 million in the first half of 2023, spent over $30 million and now has about $3.6 million on hand, according to Federal Election Commission records. The committee came into 2023 in a strong position, raising over $100 million in 2022 and finishing with $18 million on hand.
An NBC News analysis of the filings shows that Save America spent north of $20 million on legal fees, with payments going to more than 40 different law firms.
The drop in fundraising by the Trump PAC suggests the small-dollar donor operation that has helped the former president and his allies run a political fundraising juggernaut could be dwindling.
Data from OpenSecrets shows that during the 2020 presidential election in which Trump lost, his campaign and affiliated outside group raised over $300 million from donors who gave $200 or less. That accounted for 48% of the donations.
“Most of the money that middle-class Americans have given to him, he’s spent on his own legal fees,” former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie told CNBC on Tuesday.
Christie is among a group of candidates who, despite being down in the polls to Trump, is seeing some big-money support, according to FEC records.
Christie told CNBC “we have” when asked if he had met with billionaire industrialist Charles Koch. The Koch Industries-funded Americans for Prosperity Action raised over $70 million in the first half of the year and is spending some of that budget against Trump in the primary.
The super PAC supporting Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ campaign is flourishing with an over $130 million haul in the first half of the year and has over $96 million on hand. His own campaign raised around $20 million and went into the third quarter with just over $12 million on hand.
Biden, through his campaign committees and at least two joint fundraising committees, finished the second quarter raising over $70 million.
The pro-Trump super PAC, Make America Great Again, Inc., which raised about $14 million over the same time period, also appears to have its own spending troubles coming into the second half of 2023. It spent over $37 million on a wide variety of items, including over $20,000 earlier this year at Trump’s private club in Florida, Mar-a-Lago.
The super PAC came into the later stages of the year with $30 million on hand.
Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/01/donald-trumps-100-million-pac-has-just-3point6-million-in-cash.html
3:30 pm
March 30, 2018
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so you wrote not one but two books about Trump had them published but you don’t even know who published them?
you were paid for the second one but not the first one? and they wanted you to complete the trilogy but you would rather come on here and try to convince me orange man bad instead?
and you have no idea how many sales you made?? you don’t know how many people read your books and because of this, you are somehow an expert on Trump??
did you work at Mar a Lago?? were you at a rave with Tiffany? were you the fry guy at a Mcdonald’s Trump ate at??
all you are is a delusional idiot who knows nothing about nothing and I guarantee you nobody is reading what you are posting here like nobody read the books you never wrote.
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5:52 pm
April 18, 2014
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If you were better at debating you’d actually be able to do something on here. Since you can’t admit to the reality of all the felonies against Trump it just shows you can’t even think for yourself. Use some critical thinking and actually read what’s being posted.
Now where’s the rest of your cheerleading squad at I need to laugh at stupid people?
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6:14 pm
March 30, 2018
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I don’t believe anything that they are accusing him they are obviously scared of the man.
June 7th – FBI releases documents saying Biden took a $10 million bribe from Burisma
June 8th – Trump gets indicted for having documents at Mar a Lago
July 26th – Hunter Biden loses his plea deal after the DOJ reveals the deal would have kept him from future prosecutions and is told no drugs no booze and put on a piss test
July 27th – more charges against Trump announced for the Mar a Lago documents
July 31st – Hunter Biden’s former business partner testifies that Joe Biden was in on over 20 calls with Burisma executives and pressured them to fire the prosecutor that was looking into Hunter Biden.
August 1st – Trump gets indicted for Jan 6th
but I am sure that is only a coincidence and they are not trying to cover up the fact that the Bidens are the most crooked family to ever enter the white house.
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7:45 pm
April 18, 2014
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Don’t think they have any reason to be scared of Trump. Think Trump is more scared of getting convicted that’s why he’s doing his damnedest to delay the trials. If he’s innocent why delay the trial? An innocent person would have nothing to run from. There’s no plots against him. Just the plots he tried and failed at doing that are catching up to him.
Classified still means classified. Declassified means declassified. The fact he took classified documents and showed people should tell you he had intentions of selling that classified information. That classified information could’ve been about Canada for all you know. Now imagine that information being used against your country. If that doesn’t help you understand why Trump isn’t liked by people then maybe you should do some deeper analysis of the other controversies surrounding him.
Numerous rape accusations against him. Not telling you to believe every woman but look at what he is accused of doing. Now think back to a certain Billy Bush conversation. Now look back at the accusations. He freely admits to sexually assaulting women. Why shouldn’t victims come out against him? He bragged about it so he should suffer the consequences right? Should a serial killer go free because he’s a music icon? No. Should Trump be free for being a rapist? No.
Being that he owes somebody money for raping them I’d kind of go with he’s scared of facing the consequences for his actions. The loudest person doesn’t win the argument. Facts do. Facts show he’s a habitual liar, assaulter and terrible politician. You can try and bring Biden, Harris, Trudeau or whomever into this but facts still show Trump is 100% factually an assaulter, liar and terrible politician.
Tell us why should we believe conspiracy and theories that hold no weight against evidence and facts? If I watch a cruise ship in the ocean travel 10 miles out does it fall off the planet? No it follows the curvature of the Earth. If I throw a rock in the air does it go past the clouds? No it comes back down due to the gravity of a spherical planet. If the planet was flat like a carpet how would you circle the planet? Going in a straight line wouldn’t bring you back to the starting location. But if the planet was spherical getting back to the starting point would make a whole hell of a lot more sense. Right?
Trust me I’m a scientist. 2+2=4. The sun reflecting off the oceans creates the blue sky and the Earth rotates around the sun. I have no reason to lie to you unlike Trump. Trump has every reason to lie cause he knows he’s fucked cause of his actions.
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7:49 pm
March 30, 2018
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Mr. Popo said
Don’t think they have any reason to be scared of Trump. Think Trump is more scared of getting convicted that’s why he’s doing his damnedest to delay the trials. If he’s innocent why delay the trial? An innocent person would have nothing to run from. There’s no plots against him. Just the plots he tried and failed at doing that are catching up to him.Classified still means classified. Declassified means declassified. The fact he took classified documents and showed people should tell you he had intentions of selling that classified information. That classified information could’ve been about Canada for all you know. Now imagine that information being used against your country. If that doesn’t help you understand why Trump isn’t liked by people then maybe you should do some deeper analysis of the other controversies surrounding him.
Numerous rape accusations against him. Not telling you to believe every woman but look at what he is accused of doing. Now think back to a certain Billy Bush conversation. Now look back at the accusations. He freely admits to sexually assaulting women. Why shouldn’t victims come out against him? He bragged about it so he should suffer the consequences right? Should a serial killer go free because he’s a music icon? No. Should Trump be free for being a rapist? No.
Being that he owes somebody money for raping them I’d kind of go with he’s scared of facing the consequences for his actions. The loudest person doesn’t win the argument. Facts do. Facts show he’s a habitual liar, assaulter and terrible politician. You can try and bring Biden, Harris, Trudeau or whomever into this but facts still show Trump is 100% factually an assaulter, liar and terrible politician.
Tell us why should we believe conspiracy and theories that hold no weight against evidence and facts? If I watch a cruise ship in the ocean travel 10 miles out does it fall off the planet? No it follows the curvature of the Earth. If I throw a rock in the air does it go past the clouds? No it comes back down due to the gravity of a spherical planet. If the planet was flat like a carpet how would you circle the planet? Going in a straight line wouldn’t bring you back to the starting location. But if the planet was spherical getting back to the starting point would make a whole hell of a lot more sense. Right?
Trust me I’m a scientist. 2+2=4. The sun reflecting off the oceans creates the blue sky and the Earth rotates around the sun. I have no reason to lie to you unlike Trump. Trump has every reason to lie cause he knows he’s fucked cause of his actions.
I read only the very first sentence you wrote and know you are an idiot
they have no reason to fear Trump LOL
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8:39 pm
April 18, 2014
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They have zero reason to fear him. They have every reason to want to clear him off the board for his uselessness. He does nothing that benefits society or government. He strictly wants to benefit his pockets at no cost. That’s foolishness. Like giving you the chance to have an out and instead you come back for more. You must’ve forgotten how my dick tasted and wanted some more.
Pecking order and you're below the worms in the dirt.
8:53 pm
March 30, 2018
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Mr. Popo said
They have zero reason to fear him. They have every reason to want to clear him off the board for his uselessness. He does nothing that benefits society or government. He strictly wants to benefit his pockets at no cost. That’s foolishness. Like giving you the chance to have an out and instead you come back for more. You must’ve forgotten how my dick tasted and wanted some more.
everything lord Farquaad stated here is a lie at least Guestardo tries but Pogo is a moron completely utterly useless
this is my favorite quote
He strictly wants to benefit his pockets at no cost. That’s foolishness.
Trump lost BILLIONS being the president and he donated every single one of his paychecks to charities
Biden on the other hand took millions from Ukraine and now he’s sending them billions on your tax dollars
Biden also took money from a Russian oligarch’s wife and guess what she was one of the only oligarchs that America did not touch when they started seizing Russian money.
Biden also took money from China
Joe Biden is compromised and you have the IQ of an eggplant
THE ALMIGHTY SMACK
9:58 pm
April 15, 2013
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the_patriot_smack said
so you wrote not one but two books about Trump had them published but you don’t even know who published them?
I absolutely know the publisher, I said I don’t know the exact sales figures. I was paid outright and sales weren’t part of my contact.
the_patriot_smack said
you were paid for the second one but not the first one? and they wanted you to complete the trilogy but you would rather come on here and try to convince me orange man bad instead?
Can you even fucking read? I was paid for both. I turned down the third book because I didn’t have enough material to make it interesting. To be honest, I was just burnt out at that point and needed to distance myself from the grind. If Trump had won the 2020 election, I would have probably written a third book.
the_patriot_smack said
did you work at Mar a Lago?? were you at a rave with Tiffany? were you the fry guy at a Mcdonald’s Trump ate at??
My books were not “tell-alls” and I am not a political pundit. My educational background includes journalism and I was contracted for a biographical book about Donald Trump. As far as I know it was primarily marketed to Trump supporters. The same thing with the follow up. I got the gig thanks to my resume and an extensive collection of notes.
the_patriot_smack said
you are somehow an expert on Trump??
You said it, not me. I’ll take it. Thank you.
Now go away. You’re not good at “quid pro quo, Doctor.” You ask and ask, but never reply to the most basic questions. Frankly, it takes too long to respond to you with direct quotes and sources, just for you too misquote me and put word after word in my mouth. You don’t argue in good faith and I don’t have the time to hold your hand and explain everything to you twice.
I don’t give a shit if you believe I wrote a book. I don’t even give a shit if you think I don’t exist. Call me every name in the book. Identity politics don’t work when you don’t know someone’s identity. Knock yourself out.
Now let’s get the Trump Train™ loaded up because we have a long ways to go.
10:11 pm
March 30, 2018
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why would you put this thread in the psychopathic records section and not the politics section?
why would you create 5 threads called Gathering 2023 and put those in the politics section??
are you purposely spamming the forum or are you just an idiot?
THE ALMIGHTY SMACK
10:37 pm
April 15, 2013
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the_patriot_smack said
August 1st – Trump gets indicted for Jan 6th
Wait, what do you think this is for? Lmao. Trump has so many cases you fucked up and got them confused. Jan 6th is a federal investigation, dumb dumb. That indictment will come from Washington D.C. Do you understand how my government even works? Georgia brought state charges that stem from him trying to steal the 2020 election by begging for 11,780 votes. Here’s a timeline, Idiot.
Nov. 3, 2020 – Election Day. Trump is facing a reelection challenge from former U.S. senator and Vice President Joe Biden.
Nov. 19, 2020 – The Associated Press declares Biden the winner of Georgia’s presidential election. Biden becomes the first Democrat to carry Georgia since Clinton.
January 1, 2021 – Fani Willis is sworn in as new Fulton County District Attorney. She defeated her former boss and six-term incumbent Paul Howard, making her Fulton’s first-ever female DA.
January 2, 2021 – President Trump and White House staff place call to Georgia Secretary of State to protest the outcome of the state’s election.
Trump suggested the state’s top elections official could help him “find 11,780 votes,” just enough to beat Biden.
January 20, 2021 – Biden is inaugurated, and Trump leaves the White House as the nation’s 45th president.
February 10, 2021 – Willis launches a criminal investigation into Trump’s alleged attempt to alter the outcome of Georgia’s presidential election. The investigation include: “potential violations of GA law prohibiting the solicitation of election fraud, the making of false statements to state and local governmental bodies, conspiracy, racketeering, violation of oath of office and any involvement in violence or threats related to the election’s administration.”
January 20, 2022 – A special purposes grand jury is requested in Fulton County.
January 24, 2022 – Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney is assigned to supervise the special grand jury.
Summer and fall 2022 – More than 70 witnesses are called to testify before the special grand jury, including some of Georgia’s and the nation’s top political officials.
Kemp, Raffensperger and others are in the midst of reelection battles.
June 21, 2022 – Raffensperger tells the Democrat-led congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol that Trump’s claims of 2020 election fraud “were false.” Raffensperger tells the committee the Nov. 6, 2020, election went “remarkably smooth,” with average ballot-casting wait times between two to three minutes statewide. “I felt we had a successful election,” he said.
Dec. 22, 2022 – The House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol releases its final report.
January 9, 2023 – The Fulton County special grand jury completes its work.
January 24, 2023 – Willis argues the grand jury’s report should be kept private until her office decides whether to pursue indictments. Atlanta News First joins other media in a lawsuit demanding its release.
February 13, 2023 – McBurney rules some parts of the report can be made public.
February 17, 2023 – A heavily redacted Fulton County special grand jury report is partially released, with the majority of the grand jury believing one or more of the witnesses perjured themselves. The report also said the special grand jury unanimously found no evidence of any widespread fraud in the election, and recommended Willis seek the “appropriate indictments” for the unnamed perjuries. Trump claims “total exoneration” on a social media post.
April 24, 2023 – Willis warns Fulton County Sheriff Patrick Labat of “charging decisions” coming this summer in connection with her investigation. In that same letter, she notifies Fulton County deputies she will announce charges from her investigation sometime between July 11 and Sept. 1.
May 2, 2023 – Willis says she is planning to make a “historical decision” this summer regarding her investigation.
May 18, 2023 – Willis sends a letter to the Fulton County Superior Court, in which the DA notified Judge Ural Glanville her office plans to work remotely during the first three weeks of August and asking no trials be scheduled during that time.
June 13, 2023 – Trump is federally indicted in Florida, and faces 37 counts of mishandling classified documents. He is the first ex-president in American history to be criminally indicted by a federal government he once oversaw.
June 22, 2023 – After a Florida judge sets August 14, 2023, as a preliminary start date for Trump’s classified documents trial, Willis says that timeframe will not impact her investigation.
June 28, 2023 – Raffensperger testifies before federal prosecutors in connection with Trump’s alleged attempts to interfere in the state’s 2020 presidential election. Raffensperger meets with investigators from the office of Jack Smith, the U.S. Justice Department’s special counsel who is heading up Trump’s federal indictment on the former president’s alleged mishandling of classified documents. Two days prior, Raffensperger urges lawmakers to increase the penalties for tampering or attempting to tamper with voting machines.
July 11, 2023 – Two grand juries are seated in Atlanta, one of which will likely consider whether criminal charges are appropriate for Trump or his allies.
July 14-21, 2023 – Trump’s Atlanta-based attorneys continue making numerous efforts and requests to quash the special grand jury report and disqualify Willis from further investigation.
July 27, 2023: Security barriers are set up around the Fulton County courthouse.
August 1, 2023 Trump indicted.
Are you so fucking ignorant you don’t know the difference between the Fulton County Superior Court and a federal grand jury? It’s annoying how ignorant you are. Consider taking a basic US civics tutorial. It’s painfully obvious you need one.
Trust, if J6 indictments drop, it’s gonna be a big boom. This is about votes that Trump tried to steal. Now go crack a book.
10:44 pm
January 19, 2013
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Whoop Whoop Miklo Velka :
the_patriot_smack10:48 pm
April 15, 2013
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the_patriot_smack said
why would you put this thread in the psychopathic records section and not the politics section?
In the new lyrics for Fuck the World, Violent J says “fuck Donald Trump, yo.” In this thread we examine those four words in depth. This is a thread about the context of ICP lyrics and it was from the first post.
All aboard the Trump Train™ whoop whoop
11:21 pm
April 15, 2013
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If it’s what they say, I love it. Especially later in the summer.
11:45 pm
April 15, 2013
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So I’ve been out all day and finally got a chance to actually sit and read the indictment. Holy smokes. I obviously retract my statement about J6, but I do so with glee. These charges are fucking insane! Sounds like Rudy? is in a bit of a pinch too. Well, it’s important to admit when you’re wrong and that’s what I’m doing. Looks a hell of a lot worse than I thought. And Fani Willis is still outstanding? Damn, Trump is fucked, yo.
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March 30, 2018
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wow, Guest is the most special kind of stupid
this thread you started is simply to groom people to share your pathetic opinion and anyone who can think for themself can see right threw you and label you an idiot.
people that are afraid to be doxed are people that have something to be ashamed of
if like you say you wrote two books about Trump and that makes you an expert and you been here on this forum for a decade and won’t post the books you had fucking published about Trump is because you are afraid to be doxed means you are hiding something like I said cowards gonna cower.
you are the type of journalist that debunks pizzagate and then years later pleads guilty to being a pedophile.
THE ALMIGHTY SMACK
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