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Muslim/Immigrant crime stats that liberals ignore as they betray females
January 5, 2020
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the_great_white_smack said

yeah Chuck Reeves does not help your point either  

Well when discussing the "gang list" it wasn't my fault he chose to share his screen on his youtube stream and post actual court documents. That's about as high as you can go on the evidence chain. And congrats to him, or anyone really who takes the time to do so.

Whoop Whoop vinyllover :

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January 5, 2020
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Pigg said
Also any other threads started related to this will be deleted. There are already like 4 going on simultaneously.  

don't temp me to start 5 more

"deletion" is a bad word

#HotSalamiBacon 

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January 5, 2020
5:08 am
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I didn't ignore anything I saw. I'm not going to read every post you make because you stretch out posts saying the same exact shit over and over again While literally lying about me and anybody else arguing with you.

vinyllover said

King Lucem Ferre said

Immigration will always show a spike in crime and that’s because certain percentage of any population is going to be criminal so adding more people will, of course, add more criminals.

Nobody is denying immigrants commit crime. Nobody is denying whites commit crime. Nice moving of the goal posts away from the original issue that you refuse to answer:

I didn't move the goal post. You said I'm ignoring the correlation between immigration and crime and this post addresses it. I never said anything about any race. You made that shit up to create a straw man and ironically move the goal post.

I have yet to find a study that shows a correlation between race and crime that isn't explained by some other anomaly that you refuse to acknowledge because you're a bigot. Like, if you ACTUALLY read the BBC article, the people in Sweden handling statistics explained that young men, between 15 and 30, make up a disproportionate amount crime. Most of the refugees in these areas are more of that age range and of that gender. Then again, that's a show case of nuance and isn't simple enough for a dumb fuck like you to acknowledge.

DO IMMIGRANTS IN EUROPE COMMIT MORE CRIMES IN RELATION TO THEIR POPULATION? DO THEY DO MORE ILLEGAL STUFF PER CAPITA? THE ANSWER IS YES!!!

Now that claim is completely unproven. Don't link other posts you made, link actual shit with out a paragraph of contrived lies to attack my character. Short and simple. Hell, when I feel like it, I'll look it up and prove you're pulling shit that you want to see from the internet, again.

Immigrants increase, and so does the crime.

Yes. The post you're responding to says this. I've said this multiple times with an explanation that you don't say shit to.

Another coincidence!

Nope, I literally explained the nuanced and complicated explanations, multiple times, yet you'd rather go "Derkader, Muslims Bad."

I’m not sure what this bbc article is “refuting” considering KLF has REPEATEDLY IGNORED actual studies that BOTHERED TO RECORD THE ETHNICITY OF THE PERPETRATOR SINCE THAT WAS OUTLAWED (GEE, I WONDER WHY) and guess what we found? Yep, Muslims committing crimes disproportionate to their population.

If these articles exist give me a quick and easy link with out 3 posts with 5 paragraphs of dishonest propaganda on my character. Can you do that? Or do you lean on painting bullshit pictures of who I am as an argument?

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/page-6/#p246276

Not clicking to a link of one of your posts as evidence of anything.

Hell even the cops in Norway were telling us that the majority of rapists were migrants.

I have looked and I found the literal opposite. The most I found were breitbart articles that rip things out of context to paint it as an immigrant problem while the actual sources they cite never even mention immigration. I posted multiple people living there, including police, refuting the idea that no-go-zones exist like they do, here, in the USA.

If you could skip the propaganda and cite a source...

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/#p246148

That isn't just some post you made on a fourm...

If your post had a source to cite then I'd think it'd be easier to link that source than a forum post.

But they’re all bigots and liars according to idiots like KLF.

Who? The people you cited in this post? It was only yourself! Yeah, you're a bigot.

Even with cops, you live in America, of course cops can be bigots. I, personally, haven't found ANY source that backs up what you're saying. Maybe one day I'll look harder. On my time, though.

Again, you are ill equipped to deal with reality and you are ill equipped to deal with me. I don't care if you talk. I'm just going to keep embarrassing you and reminding you of things you have dodged.  

The reason I never addressed "no go zones" is, as I already stated, because I knew nothing about them. I looked them up out of curiosity. Found you're completely full of shit, as I knew I would.

You haven't embarrassed anybody. You've blatantly lied about what we're saying, addressed pieces of responses to intentionally misrepresent what we're saying, and spammed the forum with the same exact shit over and over and over in differing forums.

I'm not embarrassed, you just seem really desperate. Irrationally so.

Is it a coincidence that the conspiracy theory, originally spread by Fox News out of xenophobia since 9/11, something that they literally apologized for because they LIED about it, is being spread by a guy that we're calling a bigot? Is Vinyl a bigot? Is Vinyl desperately searching for things to justify his bigotry of Islam? Or is Vinyl just dumb enough to be tricked into it and too arrogant to admit that maybe he could be wrong?

Why does Vinyl lie about me and Pigg saying that we'd let Muslims kill transgender people out of "progressiveness" when I've openly stood up for Krunk and Psyral when people like JuggaloJ physically threaten them for supporting Trump?

Because he's a fucking propaganda spreading phony, piece of shit I've waste too much of my time on. You're garbage, Vinyl.

January 5, 2020
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King Lucem Ferre said

 

DO IMMIGRANTS IN EUROPE COMMIT MORE CRIMES IN RELATION TO THEIR POPULATION? DO THEY DO MORE ILLEGAL STUFF PER CAPITA? THE ANSWER IS YES!!!

Now that claim is completely unproven.

And he's back to lying once again. It seems this guy is impervious to fact so I will have to repost them once again IN FULL GLORY!
 
 

The report also found that the rise in reported rapes between 2011 and 2017 was linked to incidents that did not involve the use of violence, committed by perpetrators known to the victim – which also make up the majority of sexual crimes.

 

Apparently, reporting sexual touching as rape somehow proves that Muslims aren’t doing actual raping disproportionate to their population? Sorry, non sequitor fallacy. Try again.

“While this reveals very little about the identity or ethnicity of the attackers,”

 

I ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY. THEY STOPPED TAKING THIS BIT OF DATA. BECAUSE IT WASN’T POLITICALLY CORRECT. DO I HAVE TO COPY AND PASTE IT YET AGAIN? IT SEEMS I HAVE TO. SO HERE IT IS:

 

Of course there’s no statistics to support this statement, when the government stopped carrying statistics in 2005. Probably because they didn’t like the results that were showing. The police even got a special code in 2015 to keep all crimes pertaining to migrants secret.

So that means we have to look to 2005 OR BEFORE in order to see the pattern of immigrants doing more rape per capita. AND LOW AND BEHOLD, WE HAVE SUCH A STUDY. I QUOTED IT ON PAGE ONE!

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/#p246152

Just to piss off those who hate reality, let’s shove some more quotes in their face that they don’t want to acknowledge.

A long-held feminist myth is that the most dangerous place for a woman is her own home — that most rapes are committed by someone she knows. This claim was refuted by Brå’s report:

“In 58% of cases, the perpetrator was entirely unknown by the victim. In 29% of cases the perpetrator was an acquaintance, and in 13% of cases the perpetrator was a person close to the victim.”

Brå reports that there are no major differences between women of Swedish and foreign background when it comes to the risk of being raped. Significantly, the report does not touch on the background of the rapists.
Without parallel

Back in 1975, the year when politicians decided that Sweden was to become multicultural, the Swedish population stood at 8,208,442. By 2014 it had grown to 9,743,087 — an increase of 18.7%. This growth is entirely due to immigration, as Swedish women on average give birth to 1.92 children compared to the 2.24 average of immigrant women. One should, however, keep in mind that in the statistics, second-generation immigrants are counted as Swedes.

Sweden’s recent population growth is without parallel. Never before in the country’s history has the number of inhabitants increased so fast. Sweden is now the fastest growing country in Europe.

Over the past 10-15 years, immigrants have mainly come from Muslim countries such as Iraq, Syria and Somalia. Might this mass influx explain Sweden’s rape explosion? It is difficult to give a precise answer, because Swedish law forbids registration based on people’s ancestry or religion. One possible explanation is that, on average, people from the Middle East have a vastly different view of women and sex than Scandinavians have. And despite the attempts by the Swedish establishment to convince the population that everyone setting foot on Swedish soil becomes exactly like those who have lived here for dozens of generations, facts point in an altogether different direction.

The latest statistical survey of immigrant criminality compared to that of Swedes was done in 2005. The results are practically never mentioned. Not only that; anyone who dares refer to them, for example on social media, is viciously attacked.

Denigration of ethnic groups

Michael Hess, a local politician from Sweden Democrat Party, encouraged Swedish journalists to get acquainted with Islam’s view of women, in connection with the many rapes that took place in Cairo’s Tahrir Square during the “Arab Spring”. Hess wrote, “When will you journalists realize that it is deeply rooted in Islam’s culture to rape and brutalize women who refuse to comply with Islamic teachings. There is a strong connection between rapes in Sweden and the number of immigrants from MENA-countries [Middle East and North Africa].”

This remark led to Michael Hess being charged with “denigration of ethnic groups” [hets mot folkgrupp], a crime in Sweden. In May last year, he was handed a suspended jail sentence and a fine — the suspension was due to the fact that he had no prior convictions. The verdict has been appealed to a higher court.

For many years, Michael Hess lived in Muslim countries, and he is well acquainted with Islam and its view of women. During his trial, he provided evidence of how sharia law deals with rape, and statistics to indicate that Muslims are vastly overrepresented among perpetrators of rape in Sweden. However, the court decided that facts were irrelevant:

“The Court [Tingsrätten] notes that the question of whether or not Michael Hess’s pronouncement is true, or appeared to be true to Michael Hess, has no bearing on the case. Michael Hess’s statement must be judged based on its timing and context. … At the time of the offense, Michael Hess referred neither to established research nor to Islamic sources. It was only in connection with his indictment that Michael Hess tried to find support in research and religious writings. The Court therefore notes that Michael Hess’s pronouncement was obviously not a part of any reasoned [saklig] or trustworthy [vederhäftig] discussion. Michael Hess’s pronouncement must therefore be viewed as an expression of disdain for immigrants with an Islamic faith.”

Statistical evidence

What may one conclude from the available statistics?

As part of the evidence Michael Hess presented in court, he made use of whatever statistics existed on immigrant criminality in Sweden before the statistical authorities stopped measuring. Michael Hess tried to find answers to two questions:

Is there a correspondence between the incidence of rape and the number of people with a foreign background in Sweden?
Is there a correspondence between the incidence of rape and some specific group of immigrants in Sweden?

The answer to both questions was an unequivocal Yes. Twenty-one research reports from the 1960s until today are unanimous in their conclusions: Whether or not they measured by the number of convicted rapists or men suspected of rape, men of foreign extraction were represented far more than Swedes. And this greater representation of persons with a foreign background keeps increasing:

1960-1970s – 1.2 to 2.6 times as often as Swedes
1980s – 2.1 to 4.7 times as often as Swedes
1990s – 2.1 to 8.1 times as often as Swedes
2000s – 2.1 to 19.5 times as often as Swedes

Even when adjusted for variables such as age, sex, class and place of residence, the huge discrepancy between immigrants and Swedes remains.

Glaring discrepancy

How is it, then, that in 2008, Sweden’s neighbor Denmark only had 7.3 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants compared to 53.2 in Sweden?

Danish legislation is not very different from Sweden’s, and there is no obvious reason why Danish women should be less inclined to report rape than their Swedish counterparts.

In 2011, 6,509 rapes were reported to the Swedish police — but only 392 in Denmark. The population of Denmark is about half the size of Sweden’s, so even adjusted for size, the discrepancy is significant.

In Sweden, the authorities do what they can to conceal the origin of the rapists. In Denmark, the state’s official statistical office, Statistics Denmark, revealed that in 2010 more than half of convicted rapists had an immigrant background.

Foreigners overrepresented

Since 2000, there has only been one research report on immigrant crime. It was done in 2006 by Ann-Christine Hjelm from Karlstads University.

It emerged that in 2002, 85% of those sentenced to at least two years in prison for rape in Svea Hovrätt, a court of appeals, were foreign born or second-generation immigrants.

A 1996 report by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention reached the conclusion that immigrants from North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia) were 23 times as likely to commit rape as Swedish men. The figures for men from Iraq, Bulgaria and Romania were, respectively, 20, 18 and 18. Men from the rest of Africa were 16 times more prone to commit rape; and men from Iran, Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia, 10 times as prone as Swedish men.

Gang rapes

A new trend reached Sweden with full force over the past few decades: gang rape — virtually unknown before in Swedish criminal history. The number of gang rapes increased spectacularly between 1995 and 2006. Since then no studies of them have been undertaken.

One of the worst cases occurred in 2012, when a 30-year old woman was raped by eight men in a housing project for asylum seekers, in the small town of Mariannelund. The woman was an acquaintance of a man from Afghanistan who had lived in Sweden for a number of years. He invited her to go out with him. She obliged. The Afghan man took her to a refugee housing project and left her defenseless. During the night, she was raped repeatedly by the asylum seekers and when her “friend” returned, he raped her too. The following morning she managed to call the police. Sweden’s public prosecutor has called the incident “the worst crime of rape in Swedish criminal history.”

Seven of the men were sentenced to between 4.5 and 6.5 years in prison. Prison time is usually reduced by a third, so it won’t be long before the men will be ready for new assaults — presumably on infidel women.

In cases of gang rape, culprits and victims are most often young and in almost every case, the perpetrators are of immigrant background, mostly from Muslim countries. In an astounding number of cases, the Swedish courts have demonstrated sympathy for the rapists. Several times the courts have acquitted suspects who have claimed that the girl wanted sex with six, seven or eight men.

The second post I made showed that in Norway, migrants were CLEARLY the majority of rapists.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/#p246148

 

I also showed how the European nations with the lowest immigrant rates WERE THE SAFEST PLACES FOR WOMEN. POLAND AND CZECH REPUBLIC.

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/page-3/#p246202

But despite that, the majority of rapists in Poland were of immigrant background.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/#p246151

Let me guess, a coincidence, right? LOL. Here’s another quote from another article I potsed on page 3.

Last month, according to a report by the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet, the overwhelming majority of individuals who are convicted for gang rapes in Sweden happen to come from migrant backgrounds.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/page-3/#p246208

Over here, KFL ignored these stats:

THE RACE/RELIGION OF THE PERPETRATOR IS NO LONGER BEING RECORDED. IT USED TO BE. IT WAS STOPPED WHEN A PATTERN STARTED EMERGING THAT WAS NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT.

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/#p246147

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/page-2/#p246174

“Rapes have skyrocketed in Sweden over recent years. Authorities have claimed that this is due to the definition of rape being changed, but the spike occurred long after the change was made. Sex crimes in the country have doubled since 2012. The most recently available statistics showed that immigrants were 5.5 times more likely to carry out sexual assaults.”

 

The fact that you have to explain to these people that rape is illegal is proving the point that immigration from THAT part of the world is A BAD IDEA.

 

Now what is the reason fake liberals have a knee jerk reaction to these facts? because they assume it’s another case of racism and racism is bad and racism leads to slavery and holocaust and gas chambers. Apparently it never occurred to these dipshits that being against immigration and seeing statistical patterns doesn’t make one a Nazi who hates Jews, or a kkk that wants to ship out or re-enslave American blacks. It’s all in their head. In order to test someone as a liberal, it used to be where do you stand on:

1. Blacks in America.
2. Women’s rights.
3. Homosexuals and trans.
4. Atheists and freethinkers.

If you ever said the following:

1. The CIA was wrong to plant drugs, the FBI was wrong for cointelpro and political murders and local authorities were wrong for filing false charges and claims and useless fines against black businesses to drive them out of business thus wrecking income for many well to do black families.

2. Women should have access to abortion, birth control, divorce, jobs, cars, their own money, dress who they want, screw who they want.

3. Gays and trans are not to be beaten up and harassed and gays should be allowed to get civil union married so they can bequeath things to their loving spouse in their will or be able to see them on their deathbed without the bigoted religious relatives preventing you from saying goodbye to your dying gay spouse in the hospital.

4. Maintaining the first amendment to protect atheists and freethinkers from jail, being fired, discriminated against, etc.

THESE MADE YOU A LIBERAL. Nowadays, the fake, moronic regressive liberals toss ALL THESE PERFECT LITMUS TESTS OUT THE WINDOW AND ONLY FOCUS ON IMMIGRATION. That’s just asinine. In other words, they try to revoke someone’s liberal card based on only one issue. This shows how mentally challenged they really are and how they lack common sense and basic logic. It shows why KLF is unable to prevent himself from making assumptions about me, his opponent. Observe this:

I’m willing to believe that crime has risen with immigration in Europe, yes. Because I’ve read that Europe has been having a problem with assimilating immigrants, more specifically Muslims, into their economy. From the fact that they don’t have enough low skill general labor jobs to provide to the fact that some people just refuse to hire Muslims. Poverty breeds crime. So it’s not exactly a problem with the Muslims being criminals and more so a problem with them being a huge economic blow. Going back to your original statement which is much more thoughtful and less fear mongering. The economic effects of accepting Muslim Refugees.

He fails to accept that HE’S MAKING THE ARGUMENT FOR ME THAT MASS IMMIGRATION IS A BAD IDEA WHEN THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN AND CONTRIBUTE TO. KLF and others want to blame me that these migrants just happen to come from the Muslim part of the world that disrespects women and gays. LOL.

 

Etc. How ever, here it’s far different. It’s not easy for Muslim terrorists to just enter the US. That’s why I don’t care about a statistic from 2012 or 2011 because that was prior to the refugee crisis.

The reason KLF doesn’t acknowledge studies from before the migrant crisis, say 2005 studies is because THEY STILL SHOW THAT MUSLIMS COMMITTED MORE CRIME PER CAPITA. I already proved this, but he ignored it and wanted to talk about studies where THEY DIDN’T RECORD THE RACE/RELIGION OF THE PERPETRATOR. That’s so funny that he thinks he can prove that Muslims are NOT raping more than they should be per capita, and then he wants to use studies that DON’T SHOW US WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE RAPING. He’s literally a moron!

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King Lucem Ferre said

 

Hell even the cops in Norway were telling us that the majority of rapists were migrants.

I have looked and I found the literal opposite. The most I found were breitbart articles that rip things out of context

Now we know this guy is a liar for sure. Click on this link of mine and it goes to a news source where Brietbart IS NEVER MENTIONED. In fact, WHAT IS MENTIONED is a GOVERNMENT STUDY OF STATISTICS COLLECTED!!!
 
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Norway: 90% of all violent rapes in Oslo committed by Muslims
Posted on August 6, 2012 by Admin

In Oslo all sexual assaults (i.e assault rape committed under violence) involving rape in the past year has been committed by males of non-western background. This was the conclusion of a police report published today. This means that in every single rape assault in the last five years, where the rapist could be identified, he was a man of foreign origin.

The police report referred to is Voldtekt i den globale byen (Rape in the global city – May 2011 report) which provides a detailed analysis of the rape statistics in Oslo during 2010. The report shows that, of 131 individuals charged with the 152 rapes in which the perpetrator could be identified, 45.8% were of African, Middle Eastern or Asian origin while 38.2 were Norweigan citizens (foreign and national), 2.3% American, and 13.7% other European (foreign and national Europeans).

The claim of 100% sexual assault rate is based exclusively on the figures for “assault rape”, i.e. rape aggravated by physical violence, a category that included 6 of the 152 cases and 5 of the 131 identified individuals. All of those 5 individuals were indeed of African, Middle Eastern or Asian origin. The police report adds that in other cases of assault rape, where the individual responsible was not identified and the police relied on the description provided by the victim, “8 of the perpetrators were African / dark-skinned appearance, 5 were Western / light / Nordic and 4 had an Asian appearance”.

The summary of total rape statistics dominated by 50% in total by Muslim immigrants coincides with similar figures from Sweden. It is important to pay attention that Muslims who only comprise of 1.5% of the total population in Norway, stand for 50% of the entire country’s rape statistics – highly and aggressively over represented.

Islamo apologists often try to distort these facts by claiming Muslims “only” raped

The police report also points out that “it must be stressed that the strong over-representation of people from minority backgrounds for several types of rape can not be interpreted as meaning that foreign culture is a causal explanation of rape” and that “the statistical difference in criminal behaviour between ethnic groups disappears when controlling for socio-economic conditions”.

I love the last line of the article. It catches police trying to make excuses and be politically correct. "It's not their fault. They're poor." Hey, KLF, what's the reason for all the misogyny in France that women have to deal with from the Africans and Arabs, the majority of which are Muslim? It couldn't possibly be because they come from a culture that preaches hatred of women due to the religion of Islam now is it? LOL.

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vinyllover said
Let's look at Paris and see how often women get harassed.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20170519/protest-over-no-go-zone-for-women-in-paris-immigrant-district

Protest over 'no-go zone for women' in Paris immigrant district

Evie Burrows-Taylor

19 May 2017

Women took to the streets of one of the poorest areas of Paris on Friday to protest at what they say has become an all-male “no-go zone”, where any female daring to venture out alone is subject to severe sexist harassment or worse.

The district, whose streets are usually lined with large groups of young men of African and Arab origin, is located around La Chapelle metro station on the border of the 10th and 18th arrondissements in the northeast of the French capital.
The current row over the alleged no-gone zone echoes a controversy widely reported by French and foreign press late last year, when a bar in the Paris suburb of Sevran was accused of being one of many public places in the area where women were effectively banned.

Now the issue has moved almost into the city centre.

The demonstration on Friday, organised by SOS La Chapelle, a group of local residents and shop owners, aimed to highlight growing concern over harassment of women around the metro station and along the Rue Pajol and other streets in the rundown district that is dominated by an overhead metro line.

"The problems in the area are real. It is aggressive and you see men fighting in the streets. Women do not feel safe," Clare Rougy, one of the dozens of women who turned out for the demo, told The Local.

Another woman said her 17-year-old daughter was so scared that she got on her mobile phone to her mother the moment she arrived at La Chapelle metro station and stayed on it until she got safely to her nearby home.

Local resident Babette de Rozieres, a candidate for the right-wing Republicans party in next month's parliamentary elections, said in a speech to the protestors that she had lived for many years in what had long been a pleasant and quiet neighbourhood, but that in recent months it had rapidly gone downhill.

Another case of a woman PUSHED TO THE RIGHT because the loony left cares more about the feelings of immigrants than the safety of women. "No we care about both." Well clearly you can't have white feminism and brown misogyny together. It's time to pick one.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/03/paris-boosts-police-female-no-go-zone-french-feminist-decries/

Paris boosts police in female 'no-go zone', as French feminist decries 'unquestionable' regression in status of women

Wow. You mean there's a connection between Muslim immigrants and misogyny? Go figure!

 

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jun/01/calais-paris-france-street-harassment-women-migrants-la-chapelle-refugees

'No-go zone' for women? How street harassment in Paris boiled over

See that? If you stand up for feminism and women's rights, you're a racist! HAHAHAHAHAHA.
oooohhh the moral cowardice and anti-intellectualism is strong with these nutcases.  

 

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The reason I never addressed "no go zones" is, as I already stated, because I knew nothing about them. I looked them up out of curiosity. Found you're completely full of shit, as I knew I would.

 

This guy is so sad. He won't address the three videos I posted from Sweden. He doesn't want to talk about the Tim Pool video where he went there and cops said to get out now because people are already putting on masks and starting to form in groups and a group of 50 men will approach you because they have done it before. He also doesn't want to talk about American film crews get harassed there and told to leave such as the 60 Minutes crew. He also doesn't want to talk about this video where journalists get attacked, police and fire crews get attacked for trying to put out fires that MIGRANTS CAUSED WHEN THEY SET CARS AND BUILDINGS ON FIRE!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=5p1poPQ0Yu8

 

KLF also refuses to acknowledge the problems some French women have faced due to the behaviours of African and Arab men who clearly are more misogynist than the white French men.

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KLF always ignores this post because it shows how countries who took in the lowest amount of refugees are THE SAFEST PLACES FOR WOMEN!

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/sex-attacks-up-70-in-just-one-german-city-you-cant-really-do-anything-alone-anymore

Sex attacks up 70% in just one German city – “You can’t really do anything alone anymore”
By Voice of Europe 9 November 2018

Freiburg is a city that has been rocked by migrant related incidents. On 14 October this year, a teen girl was raped by seven Syrians and two years ago teenager Maria Ladenburger was raped and murdered by an Afghan migrant

The incidents have made German women in Freiburg and elsewhere more fearful and they have a point. According to a report of broadcaster RTL Germany, the number of sex attacks in the city have increased by 70 per cent.

A police officer says sexual offences have dramatically increased in Freiburg and adds that Germans are perpetrators as well.

“The last two years it has changed for the worse,” two interviewed girls say. “You can’t walk alone in the city,” she adds.

“You can’t really do anything alone anymore, you can’t be at work without being afraid. Of course it is now worse than before,” another girl says.

 

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/12/seven-adult-migrants-suspected-of-raping-10-year-old-finnish-girl/

Seven adult migrants suspected of raping 10-year-old Finnish girl
By Emma R. 4 December 2018

The police are investigating a serious sexual assault in Oulu of a child. So far, seven foreign men are suspected of seriously raping the young girl and serious child molestation.

The cruel rapes and assaults have been going on for months. According to the police, it is possible that there will be more suspects.

The men raped a 10-year-old Finnish girl. Several newspapers have written about the case, including Iltalehti, Ilta-Sanomat and MTV.

Chief Inspector Markus Kiiskinen says that there may be more suspected perpetrators in the rape tangle. The suspects are mainly between 20 and 30-years-old. One of the men is 38-years-old. The seven men were arrested on Wednesday last week.

The men allegedly assaulted the child during the autumn in the men’s apartments in Oulu. The police are reticent with the details of the case and do not reveal how the girl and the men came into contact with each other. But the discovery of the suspected crimes should not have come from the girl’s parents.

Recently, five Afghans gang raped and humiliated a 19-year-old Finnish girl in Seinäjoki in western Finland. The girl felt so badly afterwards that she wanted to take her life.

 

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/12/migrant-free-slovakia-is-in-top-three-of-safest-eu-countries/

‘Migrant free’ Slovakia is in top three of safest EU countries
By Laura Cat 4 December 2018

In Slovakia, only 6.2 per cent of its citizens reported crime, violence or vandalism in 2017, according to data from the Eurostat statistics office survey which is part of the Sustainable Development Goal (SDG 16) strategy.

The safest countries in the European Union are in order:
Croatia, with only 3 per cent of Croatians reporting crime, violence or vandalism in 2017. Poland, having only 5.4 per cent and third, again, Slovakia, with 6.2 per cent.

Slovakia has accepted very few refugees or migrants during the European migrant crisis and has no problems concerning terror, no-go zones or sex crimes.

The EU average is 11.6 per cent, CTK newswire reports, with Bulgaria bottoming out the list with 23.6 per cent of Bulgarians reporting crime, violence or vandalism. As high as that is, it has actually been dropping over the past three years since it peaked at a record 28.6 per cent in 2009.

“The ‘Peace, Justice and Strong Institutions’ survey focuses on progress made in ensuring peace and personal security, in promoting access to justice and increasing trust in EU institutions,” the Eurostat website explains.

KLF ignores this post because despite the low number of migrants accepted into Poland - THUS MAKING IT ONE OF THE TOP SAFEST PLACES FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS - the majority of rape convictions in Poland are OF MEN OF MIGRANT BACKGROUND!

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Rape Jihad: Europe’s Muslims Name Their Rape Gangs “Take Your Turn”- Polish Men Send Message to Rapists
by Maggie • January 17, 2014

Muslim women in Muslim countries must be delighted that these raping barbarians, so common in their “culture,” have moved to the West where they can no longer rape their daughters, their son and themselves, that is until they make a visit back home. In Oslo, Norway there is a Muslim-rape epidemic with 100 percent of the rapists being “non-western males,” with 9 out of 10 attacks against Norwegian women. These statistics are said to be documented by Norwegian police. Note in the transcript below that an Iraqi Muslim man, who is living in Norway and is “respected,” says there is a “clash of cultures.” Well, yes, but it’s more than that. It’s the inherent hate of infidels that Muslims are spreading across the globe. The “respected” Mr. Kubaisi, says the rapes are a “big problem,” and calls it a “clash of cultures,” which translated means: ‘my culture believes rape is justice but yours does not.” He may not realize that’s what he is saying, but there is no other interpretation that makes sense. According to the video below, the many leftist Norwegians are trying to silence the stories of epidemic “Take Your Turn” Muslim rape gangs. But in Poland? Not so much — see that message below. Video and transcript below.

NARRATOR: “100 percent of assault rape between strangers were committed by immigrant non-western males, and 9 out of 10 of their victims were native Norwegian women. Some blonde Norwegian women have reportedly begun dying their hair black and many travel only in groups.”

NARRATOR: Kristen Spitznogle is a Norwegian therapist who has counseled some of the rape victims. She has been attacked in the medial for saying what many will not, that the rape problem is primarily Muslim men raping non-Muslim women and any woman who does not dress modestly and wear the Muslim headscarf could be considered by some Muslim men as fair game.

SPITZNOGLE: For them I the hijab is symbolic marker which separates the submissive, proper Muslim women from what they see as Norwegian whores. But when I say ‘whores,’ I’m really just referring to their own words. This is what they told a journalist.

NARRATOR: Spitznogle says Norway’s left-wing establishment has been blaming the victims because the whole notion that Islamic culture is dangerous to women, is very politically incorrect here.

Hanne Herland is the author of the best-selling book, Alarm, Thoughts on a Culture in Crisis.

HERLAND: It’s not all values from Islamic countries or cultures are excellent to bring into the European society. And I think many times the Norwegians fear to speak about that, in fear of being called a racist.

NARRATOR: But it’s hard to call a Muslim immigrant a racist for speaking out against his fellow Muslims. Walid al-Kubaisi is a respected Norwegian writer and a Muslim who came from Iraq. He told us he is concerned about radical Islamic elements within the larger Muslim community in Norway.

KUBAISI: We have a problem…nobody…all deny…nobody say that, we have a big problem, but this will give a bad result in the future.”

NARRATOR: As in other Europe cities, parts of Oslo are now Muslim zones, and may be subject to Sharia law or to the rules of local Imams. When we interviewed Walid [al-Kubaisi] in June, nobody had any idea that a crazed gunman would start killing people because of Muslim immigration, but al-Kubaisi made what now feels like a chilling prediction.

NARRATOR: Do you think there will be a backlash reaction against immigrants?

KUBAISI: Clash of civilization. It will happen.

NARRATOR: Civil war?

KUBAISI: We don’t know. I am not a prophet but something will happen. Something will happen. I don’t know, but I feel it.

NARRATOR: Some on the Left in Europe are trying to use the Oslo massacre to stifle criticism of Islam, but not talking about it won’t make Norway’s problems go away,

End CNS video with Dale Hurd narrating.

The Washington Examiner:

…the “gangs of Muslim men are throughout Europe, especially Scandinavia and Great Britian, have taken gang rape to such proportions that the rape-gang members themselves have nicknamed their sexual attacks “tournante,” French for “take your turn.”

Radio Poland notes that “patrols” in Warsaw, Poznan and Krakow will begin escorting women from “the ‘threats’ of getting involved with Muslim men…

Polish men send a message:

“In Poland, there will be NO sharia law. NO headbanging or shouting Allahu Akbar in the streets. NO insulting our religion and our culture. NO burning cars like in France. NO burning down police stations [like in Sweden]. NO imposing your ways on us. NO calling us the sons of apes and pigs. If you do, we will be the ones waging jihad…on YOU!”

While much of Norway shuts out voices of the victims of Islam, Hanna Herland (quoted above) says she is “ashamed to be Norwegian” because “Jews are not welcome in Norway.” A very interesting article, read it at the Tundra Tabloids

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Why does Vinyl lie about me and Pigg saying that we'd let Muslims kill transgender people out of "progressiveness" when I've openly stood up for Krunk and Psyral when people like JuggaloJ physically threaten them for supporting Trump?

It's not a lie if meant non-literally. It's called satire. It's a form of mockery to expose how you're so pro Islam and pro open borders fore Europe, that you don't listen to or care about women asking the borders to be closed to men who come from a misogynist culture. Thus my rhetorical point was this: If you don't listen to women anymore, why would you listen to gays and trans people? Said satire is designed to make you think about your position. Expecting you to do that, hell much less getting you to address the videos about no go zones in Sweden, or the articles about no go zones in France, is like trying to teach a monkey to write Japanese. What you really are is a pigeon on a chessboard.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-22/german-city-bans-incoming-refugees-violent-crime-spikes

German City Bans All New Refugees As Violent Crime Spikes

 

Just bumping an older article to irritate the nay-sayers. LOL.

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https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/#p246148

That isn't just some post you made on a fourm...

If your post had a source to cite then I'd think it'd be easier to link that source than a forum post.

This led to the famous article about how the majority of rapists in Norway are foreign born. Included in that article I cited is this:
The police report referred to is Voldtekt i den globale byen (Rape in the global city – May 2011 report) which provides a detailed analysis of the rape statistics in Oslo during 2010. The report shows that, of 131 individuals charged with the 152 rapes in which the perpetrator could be identified, 45.8% were of African, Middle Eastern or Asian origin while 38.2 were Norweigan citizens (foreign and national), 2.3% American, and 13.7% other European (foreign and national Europeans).
 
In other words, no Breitbart. An ACTUAL STATISTICAL STUDY FROM THE POLICE - AN ORGANIZATION FROM ONE OF THE THREE MAIN BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT! So again, KLF ignores WHAT IS PLAINLY IN FRONT OF HIM. He prefers false accusations of bigotry and racism (Islam isn't a race) and snopes articles that use euphemisms such as ““sensitive urban zones" of which they are unfortunately forced to admit "some of which are home to significant Muslim populations." LOL.
 
Regressives like KLF fancy themselves as defending the next minority that is like the blacks in America who were prevented from voting, going to school, running their own businesses, sometimes having their businesses BURNT DOWN (look into how Black Wall Street was torched because some white girl made a questionable accusation against a black boy), etc. It's sad how he thinks he's comparing apples and apples. Back in the earliest decades of the 1900's blacks demanded jobs. These days Muslims demand welfare and too many of them stay on it. I've already cited those studies. Perhaps I will post them again too! Here's a mindfuck for KLF. Maybe he should look into the arab controlled slave trade and not only how the Muslim Moors often enslaved whites , but that Muslims ALSO enslaved BLACKS in the east of Africa!
 
https://www.brightworkresearch.com/criticalthinking/2017/07/african-slaves-come-form-go/

But I guess the Africans in America who ALSO oppose Muslim immigration in America and love the constitution over sharia, and tell the Europeans to stop being ashamed of the holocaust, of being white, that blacks support them wanting their own homeland and culture, are just falling for white supremacy, right? They're just a bunch of dummies according to these regressive liberals, right? It couldn't POSSIBLY BE because these blacks in America are educated, well read, and haven't forgotten what Muslim savages did to their African ancestors, right?

 
 
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You're talking to yourself at this point, my guy.  No one is about to read all that.

Whoop Whoop Pigg :

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You're talking to yourself at this point, my guy.  No one is about to read all that.  

You act like I'm surprised. You and KLF obviously didn't read that shit the FIRST TIME I posted it. Why would you guys grant the same courtesy to my sources, the way I granted courtesy to yours and took the time to watch yours - I.E. That youtube video series I spent over an hour on?

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/the-alt-right-playbook/page-3/

Why would I expect you guys to be on my level? LOL.

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Pigg said
You're talking to yourself at this point, my guy.  No one is about to read all that.  

You act like I'm surprised. You and KLF obviously didn't read that shit the FIRST TIME I posted it. Why would you guys grant the same courtesy to my sources, the way I granted courtesy to yours and took the time to watch yours - I.E. That youtube video series I spent over an hour on?

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/politics/the-alt-right-playbook/page-3/

Why would I expect you guys to be on my level? LOL.

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"You mad?"

 

asks the man who has spent HOURS finding a Tsunami of sources (most of which are bullshit) and posting walls of text.

 

Okay, guy.

 

Part of having an effective argument is being able to succinctly present said argument. Instead of posting 100s of (mostly bullshit) articles, pick a few of the best ones. Use sources that aren't disputed or absolute bullshit. That way people will:

A. Be more likely to actually read what you're saying

and

B. Actually engage meaningfully.

 

I'm not even trying to talk shit at this point, I'm trying to help you in the future.

 

Psyral brought this up in the thread I started that you posted. The videos were too long, and there were too many of them.

 

It probably would have been more effective had I just posted one. Then people would be more likely to watch it, and people interested in seeing the rest would seek them out.

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 spent HOURS finding a Tsunami of sources (most of which are bullshit)

...yep...sure...whatever you say...

 

Part of having an effective argument is being able to succinctly present said argument. Instead of posting 100s of (mostly bullshit) articles, pick a few of the best ones.

Um, going back to page 6, I had to keep reminding KLF of the BEST ONES. In other words I DID finally manage to whittle it down to only a few key sources. And then guess what? He bitches that I gave faygoluvers links back to individual posts of mine (the best ones). So I recopied and pasted them again just to please him. And then guess what? MORE DODGING! LOL. So predictable.

Use sources that aren't disputed

I tore apart those stupid snopes articles that denied any no go zones existed by posting videos about Sweden and articles about France. I even managed to find a couple of incriminating quotes from one of the snopes articles that engaged in sneaky euphemisms like politicians do. They aren't no go zones that have majority Muslim populations; instead they are “sensitive urban zones” and that “some of which are home to significant Muslim populations.” LOL. You cowards dodged the evidence from Sweden and France of Muslim majority controlled no go zones. That's on you. Just because you ignore what's in front of you, that's not my fault and you don't get to claim victory for your insolence and refusal to watch videos. Especially since you posted WAY MORE VIDEOS in your alt-right playbook topic. Let's try not being hypocritical here, Pigg.

Psyral brought this up in the thread I started that you posted. The videos were too long, and there were too many of them.

I'm not afraid of a challenge that takes time. Apparently, others don't possess my patience or dexterity. As I said before, this wasn't shocking and you shouldn't be surprised that I wasn't surprised that you guys weren't on my level.

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dude 

time is money and none of us have 4+ extra hours a day to read what you are posting

I admire your passion I do

but not even someone like me who is interested in this shit has time to read/watch it all

cliff notes bro cliff notes the shit

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vinyllover said

Pigg said

 spent HOURS finding a Tsunami of sources (most of which are bullshit)

...yep...sure...whatever you say...

 

Part of having an effective argument is being able to succinctly present said argument. Instead of posting 100s of (mostly bullshit) articles, pick a few of the best ones.

Um, going back to page 6, I had to keep reminding KLF of the BEST ONES. In other words I DID finally manage to whittle it down to only a few key sources. And then guess what? He bitches that I gave faygoluvers links back to individual posts of mine (the best ones). So I recopied and pasted them again just to please him. And then guess what? MORE DODGING! LOL. So predictable.

Use sources that aren't disputed

I tore apart those stupid snopes articles that denied any no go zones existed by posting videos about Sweden and articles about France. I even managed to find a couple of incriminating quotes from one of the snopes articles that engaged in sneaky euphemisms like politicians do. They aren't no go zones that have majority Muslim populations; instead they are “sensitive urban zones” and that “some of which are home to significant Muslim populations.” LOL. You cowards dodged the evidence from Sweden and France of Muslim majority controlled no go zones. That's on you. Just because you ignore what's in front of you, that's not my fault and you don't get to claim victory for your insolence and refusal to watch videos. Especially since you posted WAY MORE VIDEOS in your alt-right playbook topic. Let's try not being hypocritical here, Pigg.

Psyral brought this up in the thread I started that you posted. The videos were too long, and there were too many of them.

I'm not afraid of a challenge that takes time. Apparently, others don't possess my patience or dexterity. As I said before, this wasn't shocking and you shouldn't be surprised that I wasn't surprised that you guys weren't on my level.  

Dude, if your sources and research was enough you wouldn't need to strawman us. You're just desperate and insecure.

I'm sorry that I don't have all the time in the world to go through every single article and point out why it's bullshit especially when you dishonestly reply to things ripped out of context. It's a pointless waste on something entirely miserable. I'd rather let you rant and rave like a lunatic. Actually, I'd rather the moderators be given the ability to do their job and cut down on your spamming. Easily keep it to a post or two or to a single thread. That seems to be asking a little too much on faygoluvers, though.

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The Gish gallop is a technique used during debating that focuses on overwhelming an opponent with as many arguments as possible, without regard for accuracy or strength of the arguments.

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Pigg said

The Gish gallop is a technique used during debating that focuses on overwhelming an opponent with as many arguments as possible, without regard for accuracy or strength of the arguments.

  

Ahh, there's a phrase for it. I was just going to call it Ben Shapiroing.

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