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krunkazphuk said
For the collectors,
I got the Trump coloring book maybe two weeks ago. If you can find pages in it, it's well worth breaking out some colored pencils. There's one of his head on a Sphinx body, there's one of him shaking hands with an e.t. on a moon base, and there's one of him as the statue of liberty. It's a very fun coloring book.
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That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
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September 19, 2014
Nyro said
Trump or Hillary....jeez what a great choice I have. Can we deport them both and try again?
I've noticed that that seems to be the overall opinion. Maybe not worded quite like that but the emotion behind it is the same.
There's more than Republicans and Democrats running. There's actually some pretty solid people running for president this year if ya just take a few minutes to read up.
Shit, this'll get you looking in the right direction:
http://2016.presidential-candi.....ther=other
It's just a list of ALL the candidates running with links to more info on them. If everyone that feels the same as you were to actually vote for a third party candidate instead of feeling like they're forced to vote for one of the two main candidates, we could easily get someone else into office. Kind of like when Ron Paul ran for office and no one voted for him because everyone thought no one would vote for him. Self Fulfilling prophecy and shit.
9:49 pm
March 30, 2013
12:18 am
December 3, 2012
Bernie is an independent running as a democrat. He realizes he has no chance otherwise. The numbers are just too thin and the electorate system heavily favors certain states over others. Places like California or Texas have more points than a Delaware or a Kentucky, so even if we DID have the numbers it's still a shot in the dark. It's a silly system to me. I'm all for popular vote.
I will say that Trump getting a nomination does prove that people are sick to god damn death of the way that things are going and he challenges the status quo. As much as I hate that horse fucker, I do see his campaign as a good sign that things could change in the next 10-20 years.
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
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May 22, 2012
Psyral Infection said
Can someone explain this gun control thing to me?
nope.
I am not a fan of guns
i am. big fan.
but I would never vote to restrict guns and or restrict the right to bear arms.
i might.
there gotta be limits, and the current limits seem to be a bit too unlimiting, lately.
If you threw a rock at my head, I would not go and fist fight the rock. That seems silly.
yeah, thats silly.
almost as silly as the idea that anybody is fist fighting firearms.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
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February 15, 2014
scruffy said
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yeah, thats silly.almost as silly as the idea that anybody is fist fighting firearms.
Yeah, my analogy was really stretched to make a point (probably stretched too far).
I just don't think guns are the reason people died recently in Orlando. Well, yes, the weapons used were guns, but I don't think the guns are to blame. If the guy did not have access to guns and wanted to kill a lot of people, he'd still find a way to do it. Bombs, gas, etc. All it takes is an internet search and you can find ways to mass kill people pretty easily.
And yes, maybe gun control is a little too lax. I mean, if I wanted to buy a gun I could. I would be the last person I would trust with a gun. I'd probably shoot my eye out. :P
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April 16, 2014
Psyral Infection said
Can someone explain this gun control thing to me?I am not a fan of guns but I would never vote to restrict guns and or restrict the right to bear arms.
If you threw a rock at my head, I would not go and fist fight the rock. That seems silly.
Is that a serious question? Because I can explain it to you. The way I heard it put best recently is that it's a public health issue. The bottom line is that making guns easy to get means that thousands more people are going to die every year than if guns weren't easy to get. If you doubt that, just look around at all the countries where living standards are similar to the US but guns aren't easy to get. None of them have anywhere near the same murder rates- it's easier to squeeze a trigger than to kill someone a different way, and so more guns means way more people making snap judgements to kill people and more deaths. If you disagree with any of this, frankly I think you're either an idiot, or you've made up your mnd and will not hear anything that contradicts that.
Where I don't think someone who is anti-gun control is being an idiot at all is if they recognize what I said above, but they still feel a need to protect themselves that overrides that. It's very true that you can't rely on law enforcement and if it comes down to do it owning a gun may be the only thing that saves your life. Your right to own a gun is a public health hazard that leads to a lot of deaths, but if I for one was in a situation where I thought it was keeping my family safe I'd fight like hell not to give it up, thousands of people gettng killed by guns notwithstanding
It's tricky issue, with reasonable arguments on both sides. If you don't see that, you're missing the point.
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DrFreshness said
Is that a serious question? Because I can explain it to you. The way I heard it put best recently is that it's a public health issue. The bottom line is that making guns easy to get means that thousands more people are going to die every year than if guns weren't easy to get. If you doubt that, just look around at all the countries where living standards are similar to the US but guns aren't easy to get. None of them have anywhere near the same murder rates- it's easier to squeeze a trigger than to kill someone a different way, and so more guns means way more people making snap judgements to kill people and more deaths. If you disagree with any of this, frankly I think you're either an idiot, or you've made up your mnd and will not hear anything that contradicts that.
Where I don't think someone who is anti-gun control is being an idiot at all is if they recognize what I said above, but they still feel a need to protect themselves that overrides that. It's very true that you can't rely on law enforcement and if it comes down to do it owning a gun may be the only thing that saves your life. Your right to own a gun is a public health hazard that leads to a lot of deaths, but if I for one was in a situation where I thought it was keeping my family safe I'd fight like hell not to give it up, thousands of people gettng killed by guns notwithstanding
It's tricky issue, with reasonable arguments on both sides. If you don't see that, you're missing the point.
Yes, it was a serious question.
To make a point, I will present a non gun-control viewpoint. This is not my belief but it will make my point if you follow the entire argument (which is ultimately not for or against gun control)
This is from the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy and these were all pulled from actual statistics. They did not make up the numbers and was their best interpretation of the data:
- There is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally (more guns = less crime).
- Nations with strict gun control laws have substantially higher murder rates than those who do not in general. In fact, the 9 European nations with the lowest gun ownership rate have a combined murder rate 3x that of the 9 European nations with the highest gun ownership rate.
- In the decade following Britain's Labor party's election and banning of handguns in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77% to 1.2 million. They report 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people in UK. and only 466 violent crimes per 100,000 people in USA.
- In 1982, Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89%. The violent crime rate in Kennesaw is still 85% lower the national average.
Caution: no single number can tell the whole story. And statistics can be read many different ways.
Those who are looking to increase gun control choose to look at the statistics that will point to that and disregard the other just as those who want to prevent increases in gun control are choosing to look at the statistics in the way to "prove" their own points (Just as I have done above.)
Truth is, if you actually look at the raw data which surprisingly is held by the CDC, you will see that it is completely inconclusive. True academia can not find any correlation for or against gun control based on the statistics. Even computer algorithmic analysis shows no correlation between gun control and less gun violence. What it does show is something completely different but that both sides will never use since it does not help either in their proposed causes. Computer analysis shows income and education to be the top factors that correlate to gun deaths, not level of gun control in a particular area (whether it be states or in different countries of the world). These analysis are done via product-moment correlation coefficient, polychoric correlation, and coefficient of determination methods. This prevents interpretational bias and gives a coefficient of relation between statistical data showing whether or not there is a cause and effect scenario or even causeS and effect.
The analysis done by unbiased mathematical computation is very different than the "facts" presented from both sides of the gun control argument. It shows that there is no statistical correlation between gun control and gun deaths. Only when you pick and choose which parts of the data you want to use instead of looking at it all can you make a case for or against gun control that "seems" to make sense and "seems" to be based on factual statistics.
Gun control is just that. Gun control. It does not show and has never shown historically to lower gun related deaths unless you choose to isolate small subsections of the data for a political purpose. Analysis should always be done via true mathematical correlation algorithms to prevent intentional or unintentional bias. Mathematical analysis shows no correlation - or to be more accurate, shows such a low correlation coefficient which falls below the computed variance allowance for the input dataset.
The analysis shows just this: Income and education level (which consistently show correlation with each other so it is not surprising that both factors had high correlation coefficients from the raw data) have the biggest impact on number of gun deaths not whether there were gun control laws in effect in an area or not.
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Ok. Still confused about the gun control thing and how it is being handled.
So the Democrats did the sit in thing and went to social media and made it seem like the Republicans refused to vote on the issue. Now a lot of Americans are thinking that is the case. But before the sit in, there were 4 votes from 4 different measures on gun control coming from both sides. Votes were cast and in each case they were shot down.
Both the Democrat and Republican proposals wanted the same thing - to restrict guns to people on the Terror Watch list and people with mental disabilities but neither side agreed on the methods to do this.
The Democrats failed to mention that in their social media campaign. They are making it seem like the Republicans do not want gun control and even said "The Senate GOP have decided to sell weapons to ISIS" because the gun control methods that the democrats proposed were voted down... which is completely misleading. But now social media is all abuzz with statements like that. Both sides want it. But the Democrats are purposely trying to make the American people believe something completely different and now the general public is believing it too. Some Democrat lawmakers were even saying they would make it as painful as possible for Republicans to oppose the gun amendments that the Democrats proposed.
What kind of bully tactic is that? Or is that just simple politics?
Do they really care about the issue? Seems they would just rather twist it as a reason to show the public that the other side is bad before the upcoming elections.
Any like I had of the Democratic party is now gone. Taking to social media and purposely misleading the public on what went down is a horrible tactic. It's a shame that most media outlets won't report the truth since the sensationalism of the sit-in is much better news for their viewer count and ratings.
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