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Politics anyone?
January 21, 2016
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Slumerican502 said
I’m voting for Bernie Sanders, even though I don’t really like him that much. I just hate him less than everyone else. And that’s sad to me.   

thats what i say about everybody i vote for, every two years. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 21, 2016
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krunkazphuk said

Slumerican502 said 
… Kinda off topic(I was reading that meme) but why is Hitler the poster child for pure evil? Not to make light of his deeds, but Joseph Stalin was just as fucking ruthless and actually starved out his own people…

Interesting question. Supposedly (depending on the source) Mao Zedong killed even more people (60 million victims) than Stalin (40 million victims) or Hitler (30 million victims.) I’ve read that since Hitler conducted genocide (unlike the Mao/Stalin politically motivated killings) the nature of Hitler’s murders is considered more brutal. Also, Hitler lost a war and was replaced by a new regime that demonized him (while the other two didn’t lose wars and were replaced by leaders in the same regime that downplayed the mass murders.) Maybe a classic example of History being written by winners.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/hom…..world.html

^^ basically all of that would be my answer. 

 

January 22, 2016
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Slumerican502 said
Not to make light of his deeds, but Joseph Stalin was just as fucking ruthless and actually starved out his own people.

Random side note: I visited the house that Joseph Stalin was born in… its in a country called Republic of Georgia (we were driving by so we decided to stop) but I found it interesting that even the local guide was telling us all these stories that even as a little kid Joseph Stalin was known to be ruthless… yet the locals in that city still seem to love him. huh.

January 24, 2016
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I’m voting Bernie and quite frankly I don’t see how juggalos support Republican economic politics. ICP from day one has hated the rich and the Republican party is the party that gives tax breaks to the rich and allows the rich to become richer, all while not giving two fucks about the poor. As for Trump, here’s something I posted on facebook a couple weeks ago and I will stand behind this statement 100%:

For those who somehow are still unaware, I’m a juggalo (an icp fan if you’ve been living in a cave for the last 25 years) and the juggalos consider themselves a family. Be that as it may, I won’t deny that many of them are not the brightest crayons in the box. Tonight I stumbled on a Facebook page “juggalos 4 trump”. Icp, throughout their career, beneath the humor and violence, has railed against bigotry and the rich and has always been about equality so how can any so called juggalo support a billionaire bigot calling for mass deportations of a particular nationality and discrimination against billions of people based on religion? How can you sit there one minute, listening to icp preach against bigots and the wealthy and the injustices in this world and then turn around and support a piece of crap like trump the next. Those people are not, nor ever were juggalos as far as I’m concerned. And any juggalo friends on here, if you’re offended by me saying that, fuck off.

January 24, 2016
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InSainn said 
… I don’t see how juggalos support Republican…

I’ve heard the same thing about Log Cabin Republicans (America’s grassroots organization representing gay/lesbian conservatives.)

http://www.logcabin.org/

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January 24, 2016
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krunkazphuk said

InSainn said 
… I don’t see how juggalos support Republican…

I’ve heard the same thing about Log Cabin Republicans (America’s grassroots organization representing gay/lesbian conservatives.)

http://www.logcabin.org/

Gay republicans meet drag queens (Philip S. Hoffman – Flawless,1999) VOSTFR

 I need to see this.

I can see how juggalos can be conservative. Alot of the time i just blame it on where they at. And thier daddies. Like father like hell. 

Like those crazy fucken conservative militia groups that hate they governments. 

Plus like why cant a juggalo be conservative. Psyrals not the only one that has a diffrent perspective on the party. 

But whatever 

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January 24, 2016
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InSainn said
For those who somehow are still unaware, I’m a juggalo (an icp fan if you’ve been living in a cave for the last 25 years) and the juggalos consider themselves a family. Be that as it may, I won’t deny that many of them are not the brightest crayons in the box. Tonight I stumbled on a Facebook page “juggalos 4 trump”. Icp, throughout their career, beneath the humor and violence, has railed against bigotry and the rich and has always been about equality so how can any so called juggalo support a billionaire bigot calling for mass deportations of a particular nationality and discrimination against billions of people based on religion? How can you sit there one minute, listening to icp preach against bigots and the wealthy and the injustices in this world and then turn around and support a piece of crap like trump the next. Those people are not, nor ever were juggalos as far as I’m concerned. And any juggalo friends on here, if you’re offended by me saying that, fuck off.

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January 24, 2016
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bayAreaShaman said
I can see how juggalos can be conservative. Alot of the time i just blame it on where they at. And thier daddies. Like father like hell.

this phenomenon, i dont get.  ‘i vote the way mom and dad told me to vote.’ 

yeah, cuz mom and dad had the best track record for pickin the leaders who were good for you. 

 

my parents were hella smart people, but their political leanings… generally not to my taste. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 24, 2016
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scruffy said

bayAreaShaman said
I can see how juggalos can be conservative. Alot of the time i just blame it on where they at. And thier daddies. Like father like hell.

this phenomenon, i dont get.  ‘i vote the way mom and dad told me to vote.’ 

yeah, cuz mom and dad had the best track record for pickin the leaders who were good for you. 

 

my parents were hella smart people, but their political leanings… generally not to my taste. 

My parents always voted a straight Democratic ticket, every election. I voted one time in my life, just once. For John Kerry back in 2004 so the DUBYA couldn’t continue his reign of terror. Technically, Kerry won, but the polls were rigged in Florida for da DUBYA. Not a coincidence at all, his brother Jeb was governor of Florida at that time. Why not help his brother cheat to win? 

But, that killed voting for me. What’s the point? “They” are going to make sure “They” have who they want in office. Voting simply does not matter. Illusion of choice. We have no choices, and that is the real truth.

FUCK POLITICS. FUCK THE WHOLE CORRUPTED SYSTEM. 

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January 24, 2016
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@InSainn said
Republican party is the party that gives tax breaks to the rich and allows the rich to become richer, all while not giving two fucks about the poor.

Do you not recall the tax breaks for the middle class while bush was in office? Remember when all our taxes went down?! Ever since obama took office my taxes have definitely gone up especially after the “affordable care act” went into effect. Even after his promises not to increase taxes for anyone who makes under 250 thousand… they all went up. And to make things worse, if you cant afford his healthcare they will fine you hundreds of dollars when tax season comes around… your logic is backwards dude. Thats why republicans want to repeal this highway robbery obama care… our taxes will go back down and the poor wont be fined. but what do i know… just keep falling the sheep.

juggalos consider themselves a family. Be that as it may, I won’t deny that many of them are not the brightest crayons in the box.

^ just proven.

How can you sit there one minute, listening to icp preach against bigots and the wealthy and the injustices in this world and then turn around and support a piece of crap like trump the next.

Maybe because people look at his foreign policy and his knowledge of the economy and think he is our best choice… and lets face it, at the moment those are the 2 most important things. Or would you rather vote for someone like hilary who is a poster child of a corrupt politician? She has a better chance sitting in a prison cell in 2 years then sitting in the white house. Dont forget, she was the one who allowed our citizens get murdered over seas and then try to cover it up. and you say she is a better choice? get real dude.

Those people are not, nor ever were juggalos as far as I’m concerned. And any juggalo friends on here, if you’re offended by me saying that, fuck off.

I thought juggalos are suppose to be excepting of peoples views and believes? well done.

January 24, 2016
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YakkAttack said

@InSainn said
juggalos consider themselves a family. Be that as it may, I won’t deny that many of them are not the brightest crayons in the box.

^ just proven.

^Just proven…

Maybe because people look at his foreign policy and his knowledge of the economy and think he is our best choice…

Maybe these people are idiots that also support disallowing freedom to anyone that does not come from a white or Christian background.

I’ll refute this more when I’m not at work.
You and I could have a very interesting debate, Mr. Attack.

January 24, 2016
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YakkAttack said
or does no one really give a shit? lol.

I’m in this boat. 

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January 24, 2016
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Rosco said

YakkAttack said

@InSainn said
juggalos consider themselves a family. Be that as it may, I won’t deny that many of them are not the brightest crayons in the box.

^ just proven.

^Just proven…

^Just proven… again. lollol we can do this all day bro, lol. cheers

Rosco said
Maybe these people are idiots that also support disallowing freedom to anyone that does not come from a white or Christian background.

Is it taking away freedoms or enforcing our laws on immigration?… not laws he’s coming up with but ones that have always been around just never enforced. As for the muslims Im all for a TEMP ban until we can figure out a better way to screen… clearly our screening process isnt working well. Then he’ll cut the head off ISIS and take their oil… THATS A FACT! lolwackywackylol But shit, better that IMO then have a career criminal who wants nothing more but to take our guns, fuckin liberals and guns… locohammer

Rosco said
Mr. Attack.

I prefer Mr. Yakk, lol.

January 24, 2016
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YakkAttack said

I prefer Mr. Yakk, lol.

Understandable lol

I don’t wanna type up a twenty page statement or anything like that.
Trying to simplify my position.
Gimme a few.

Also wanna state that that although there is a difference in opinion, we still cool.
Some people on my Facebook throw a hissy fit and delete me over shit like this. lol

Don’t know how to have a constructive conversation.

January 24, 2016
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Rosco said

Also wanna state that although there is a difference in opinion, we still cool. Some people on my Facebook throw a hissy fit and delete me over shit like this. lol Don’t know how to have a constructive conversation.

This is key my friend… politics and religion make people lose their shit in debate… even me at times, lol. Theres no reason we can’t have a level headed debate without denouncing eachothers juggalo card, lol.

January 24, 2016
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January 24, 2016
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YakkAttack said
Do you not recall the tax breaks for the middle class while bush was in office? Remember when all our taxes went down?! Ever since obama took office my taxes have definitely gone up especially after the “affordable care act” went into effect. Even after his promises not to increase taxes for anyone who makes under 250 thousand… they all went up. And to make things worse, if you cant afford his healthcare they will fine you hundreds of dollars when tax season comes around… your logic is backwards dude. Thats why republicans want to repeal this highway robbery obama care… our taxes will go back down and the poor wont be fined. but what do i know… just keep falling the sheep.

First of all, like the typical American you act like paying taxes is such a terrible thing. Fact is, the bills for this country have to be paid somehow and as long as they’re used to provide programs that take care of our people and the top earners are paying their fair share I don’t have a problem paying a little more myself. Higher taxes or not, I’m better off now than I was under Bush for damn sure as is our economy as a whole (despite what the right wing liars would have you believe). Oh, and it was Bush and his tax cuts and his deregulation that blew a huge fucking hole into our economy and almost sent us into another Great Depression (which Obama managed to save us from). As far as Obamacare, it’s a better alternative to what we had but the system won’t be good for anyone until we abolish insurance companies and have medicare for all like Bernie wants to get done. The rest of the world does it and they laugh at us and how much we spend on healthcare.

Maybe because people look at his foreign policy and his knowledge of the economy and think he is our best choice… and lets face it, at the moment those are the 2 most important things. Or would you rather vote for someone like hilary who is a poster child of a corrupt politician? She has a better chance sitting in a prison cell in 2 years then sitting in the white house. Dont forget, she was the one who allowed our citizens get murdered over seas and then try to cover it up. and you say she is a better choice? get real dude.

LOL Foreign policy is not one of the 2 most important things right now. The repubs would have you believe that because they use fear mongering to make eveyone believe ISIS is coming to get us. Right now in America you have a greater chance of being killed by a white Christian extremist like the one who shot up the planned parenthood than you do of being killed by ISIS. They’re the greatest threat to the country and they’re a product of the right wing. As far as economy, there’s a big difference between running a country and running a buisness (which he can’t run those either apparently since he’s filed bankruptcy multiple times). Every economist out there will tell you his tax plan would kill our economy. Besides, I don’t want a billionaire businessman running my country. Businessmen in this country have proven they only care about the bottom line and not their employees well being. Trump is on record as saying Americans make too much money. Maybe if he was only talking about the top 1%. We need someone who’s gonna raise the minimum wage which will drive everyone else’s wages up (and don’t give me the bullshit that it’ll kill jobs, study after study has proven that whole narrative as false). And I don’t know what’s up with the Hillary assumptions as I’m 100% for Bernie with Omally being my second choice. I agree with most of your assessment of Hillary but if she gets the nomination I’ll still take her over anyone on the right.

I thought juggalos are suppose to be excepting of peoples views and believes? well done.

I think the word you’re looking for is accepting. And no, juggalos are supposed to be accepting of all people regardless of race, nationality, sexual orientation or religion or whatever else the fuck they may be. You cannot be accepting of all nationalities and religions if you’re pro-Trump, period. He’s a flat out bigot who sees nothing wrong with calling latinos rapists and murderers and denying Muslims coming here after being vetted. Are juggalos supposed to be accepting of racists? KKK members have their own views and beliefs so if they want to be a jugglao are we supposed to accept them and accept their beliefs? If so then being a juggalo stands for nothing anymore and is nothing more than another fan base. I see “juggalos” on facebook all the time with rebel flags on their profile. That’s not what being a juggalo stands for and it’s stated on every single motherfucking album. That’s my biggest beef with new school juggalos, is they’re all afraid to call the fake ass bitches out because it’s supposed to be “family”. Bullshit! Back in the day, the ones who started this “family” had no problem calling a fake ass bitch a fake ass bitch. Other than that, I give no fucks how long anyone’s been down but that’s one issue that irritates the hell out of me.

That said, fuck you and your support of Trump.

January 24, 2016
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Yikes. This thread got hostile. Which reminds me of something my mother told me: “Never discuss your political or religious beliefs with anyone. Because that conversation will lead to a bitter argument every time”. 

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January 25, 2016
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YakkAttack said

@InSainn said
Republican party is the party that gives tax breaks to the rich and allows the rich to become richer, all while not giving two fucks about the poor.

Do you not recall the tax breaks for the middle class while bush was in office? Remember when all our taxes went down?! Ever since obama took office my taxes have definitely gone up especially after the “affordable care act” went into effect. Even after his promises not to increase taxes for anyone who makes under 250 thousand… they all went up. And to make things worse, if you cant afford his healthcare they will fine you hundreds of dollars when tax season comes around… your logic is backwards dude. Thats why republicans want to repeal this highway robbery obama care… our taxes will go back down and the poor wont be fined. but what do i know… just keep falling the sheep.

juggalos consider themselves a family. Be that as it may, I won’t deny that many of them are not the brightest crayons in the box.

^ just proven.

How can you sit there one minute, listening to icp preach against bigots and the wealthy and the injustices in this world and then turn around and support a piece of crap like trump the next.

Maybe because people look at his foreign policy and his knowledge of the economy and think he is our best choice… and lets face it, at the moment those are the 2 most important things. Or would you rather vote for someone like hilary who is a poster child of a corrupt politician? She has a better chance sitting in a prison cell in 2 years then sitting in the white house. Dont forget, she was the one who allowed our citizens get murdered over seas and then try to cover it up. and you say she is a better choice? get real dude.

Those people are not, nor ever were juggalos as far as I’m concerned. And any juggalo friends on here, if you’re offended by me saying that, fuck off.

I thought juggalos are suppose to be excepting of peoples views and believes? well done.

I can’t really look up shit at the moment and you’ll just disagree anyway but tyre tax rates for middle class families are lower under Obama than George W.  There are significantly more credits available for the average family too.

As for the penalty for not getting health insurance: you know that mandate was created by republicans right?

 

Donald trump is a racist, ignorant fuck who would exploit anybody to make some cash. He and his father were directly responsible for racist housing practices and his bigotry extends to the horizon. If you’re cool with that then go ahead and just admit that you too are a bigot.

Obama has been in office for 7 years and the only gun laws he has done is to allow concealed carry in national parks and to close the gun show loophole which means all gun sales have to operate under the same rules. He isn’t after your guns.

Hillary didn’t “allow” Bengazi to happen. It happened after repeated requests from the state department ( headed by Hillary) requested funds, troops, and artillery from a republican controlled congress which denied her requests.

Hillary is a career politician and likely corrupt. But you know who the crony in crony capitalism is? People like Donald Trump who donate ridiculous amounts of money to political campaigns in hopes of getting special favors. He has openly admitted to bribing Hillary when she was in office in New York.

But you’re right we gotta be scared of the muslims… A vast body of people who are no more violent than any other large body of people because some of them are killers.

I saw an interesting statistic last week that showed that more deaths in the US were caused by toddlers getting ahold of fire arms than were caused by Islamic terrorism in the US in 2015. 

Toddlers just aren’t as sensationalistic.

 

January 25, 2016
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Bush didn’t win because of a rigged voting system.

 

Bush won because the delegate vote was in his favor even though the popular vote was against him. And the numbers were pretty damn close too.

 

He is 1 in two presidents that have ever won an election that way. Most people in the delegate vote will vote with the popular vote because they want to keep their future voters happy.

 

Please learn basic politics. And votes really do matter. The biggest thing that harms this country is when the people don’t use their voice.

 

Oh, and you guys forgot that Trump said that he’s sure not all Mexicans are murderers and rapists.

 

Just like I’m sure that not all juggalos are uneducated and smelly.

 

Kind of makes me sound like an ass, doesn’t it?

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