86 said
Yikes. This thread got hostile. Which reminds me of something my mother told me: "Never discuss your political or religious beliefs with anyone. Because that conversation will lead to a bitter argument every time". 

I always discuss politics and religion. Unless I know it's bothering somebody, then I'll stop. Other than that it's some of the best conversations to have.

I'll try to leave Lupe Fiasco's word for Philosophy Sunday here.

Dialectic: a discource between two or more people holding different points of view about a subject but wishing to establish the truth through reasoned arguments.

I hate talking politics, and religion. But here are the facts.

Donald Trump is a cartoon character. Anyone that votes for him is a joke. Actually, if you vote for Trump, you deserve to be quarantined. This isn't a matter of "opinions" here. This is serious, serious shit. You are a foolish, lazy human being. Hillary Clinton is a joke. Chris Christie is a joke. They are all jokes except Sanders. And I don't love the fact of having another "old, Caucasian male" as our representative, but he is our ONLY option. I am not as politically savvy as most of you, nor as intelligent, but those of you that are leaning toward Donald Trump as our president, man, you are either obliviously lazy or wanting to seem like some sort of good ol' boy rebel. You are either thinking too hard or not enough.

If this election were a film, Trump would be the obvious Bad Guy. You all see that. You know it. You aren't impressing ANYONE by abiding by this false rhetoric. You are the downfall of civilization. 

A guy came in the shop a couple months back. He bought a $10 gram, then said "I'm voting Trump, and I AM Mexican!" He was. Obese and Hispanic. I hope he gets hit by a horse-drawn carriage for saying something so repulsive. He had nothing to back it up.

My own dad, an Independent voter for his whole adult life, is voting for Trump. He said "he's gonna get rid of those damn Muslims!"

He has never met a Muslim. He has never had an issue with them, nor can I recall him ever saying the word itself, before TV told him who to scapegoat. This blows my mind, and I have lost a shit load of respect for this man. I once broke the nose of an ex con that turned Muslim inside. Then after our fight, I tried to run him over with my Mitsubishi. I fishtailed in the snow and he simply rolled over the hood. I hate that dude, but it has nothing to do with his religion. He is merely a scumbag who said the wrong things to me. Why should I hate Muslims based on one dude's shady actions? It is absurd on a level that is staggering and insults my very cell structure that I share with all of my sisterstuff and brothers of this dope planet. A black dude broke my brother's jaw just to be a bully. Months later another black dude killed my brother and didn't serve a single second in jail. Do I hate black dudes now? Fuck no. These are INDIVDUALS. Just because THEY deserve to die, does not mean their entire lineage does as well. I hate many individual black, white, mexican, gay, straight, midget, hermaphrodite, Reptilian Atlantis Fish People, all types. But just the individuals. I cannot fucking BELIEVE there is a group called Juggalos 4 Trump, but I am not as surprised as I should be. These peoplease should be euthanised. 

This is why I don't talk politics. I can barely present an intelligent conversation without resorting to rage. It's almost like I'm a Trump supporter.

wait, theres a group called Juggalos 4 Trump?? lol

Old Mr Dangerous said

Sean Law said
I would totally fuck Hillary Clinton

Sarah Palin is my guilty jerkoff fantasy. Don't tell anyone.

true true.  since this is completely confidential, I would probably fuck Carly Fiorina too.... and Rand Paul

Sean Law said
wait, theres a group called Juggalos 4 Trump?? lol

https://www.facebook.com/juggalos4donaltrump/?fref=photo

Here's a preview:

The political ideology that best fits Juggalos is Libertarianism, without a doubt.  If there's one thing that almost all Juggalos have in common, it's a disdain for authority, and I think if you ask most Juggalos what role they want the government playing in their lives, they would say "staying the fuck out of it."  Juggalos would certainly be with the Democrats on issues like ending the drug war, not making laws about who you can fuck and how you can fuck them, not legislating the Bible, etc.  Juggalos also tend to be on the poorer end of the spectrum and so would fit with the Dems for class reasons too.  But, a very big part of what Democrats are about is the idea that government social programs are going to solve peoples' problems, and I don't think you'd find a lot of Juggalos buying into that at all.  Also more in line with Republicans, I think most Juggalos would be against the idea of the government taking away their guns, and pretty close to none are going to have any sympathy for the idea of political correctness.   

Sean Law said
I would totally fuck Hillary Clinton

Sean Law said
wait, theres a group called Juggalos 4 Trump?? lol

Not a group, just a page. At least that's what I saw.

DrFreshness said
The political ideology that best fits Juggalos is Libertarianism, without a doubt.  If there's one thing that almost all Juggalos have in common, it's a disdain for authority, and I think if you ask most Juggalos what role they want the government playing in their lives, they would say "staying the fuck out of it."  Juggalos would certainly be with the Democrats on issues like ending the drug war, not making laws about who you can fuck and how you can fuck them, not legislating the Bible, etc.  Juggalos also tend to be on the poorer end of the spectrum and so would fit with the Dems for class reasons too.  But, a very big part of what Democrats are about is the idea that government social programs are going to solve peoples' problems, and I don't think you'd find a lot of Juggalos buying into that at all.  Also more in line with Republicans, I think most Juggalos would be against the idea of the government taking away their guns, and pretty close to none are going to have any sympathy for the idea of political correctness.   

I can see your points here, although I think if juggalos do their homework and put aside the brainwashing that we receive from birth here in the US they would buy into social programs fixing alot of problems. The social programs that progressives want to put in place have worked pretty well in alot of countries and the only thing that keeps them from being utilized here are people who would stand to lose alot of money if they were. So we're constantly fed this idea that socialism leads to communism and that it's this evil evil thing when really it's not. As for guns, if you really believe that democrats are going to come around and confiscate all the guns you truly are ignorant and brainwashed. It's just such a ludacris idea that I can't believe people actually buy that lie of the right. My beliefs are about as far left as one can go and I don't even believe that should happen. I do believe in background checks for ALL gun purchases though and I do believe in greatly expanded care for the mentally ill and I do believe in a ban on assault rifles because no civilian has any legitimate need for weapons like that. If you need an automatic weapon to defend your home then you need to take your ass to the gun range and work on your aim.