InSainn said 
...So we're constantly fed this idea that socialism leads to communism and that it's this evil evil thing when really it's not...

I've read Animal Farm by George Orwell, and it opened my mind to new ideas about how dark human nature (greed, envy, fear, etc.) may be the basis of political/social corruption. Communism may not be evil, but history has shown that it might only work on a small scale, and when it gets too big it disintegrates.

Sean Law said

guns guns guns...Sometimes you gotta dump a couple shells

And some gotta play for both teams: "A financial firm run by Democratic mega-donor George Soros invested in ammunition makers last year, despite his funding gun control groups."

http://www.ibtimes.com/politic.....acking-gun

YakkAttack said

@robtidwell  said
I can't really look up shit at the moment and you'll just disagree anyway but tyre tax rates for middle class families are lower under Obama than George W.  There are significantly more credits available for the average family too.

Are we sure about this? I just did some research... 50 articles say taxes were less under Bush, 50 articles say they are lower under Obama... thats the problem with the media, no one just gives the facts, lol. All I know is on my last 2 week pay check (not to get too personal) but I made $2,400 and they took $800 out in taxes leaving me with $1,600... these fucks took a straight 1/3 of my check!! and taxes only keep going up these days! Wtf?!

As for the penalty for not getting health insurance: you know that mandate was created by republicans right?

Do you have a source? I couldn't find that information anywhere... I know the bill was made by the obama administration... I dont see how republicans would have put that in. I do know that I did my taxes yesterday and I didnt have insurance for the first 5 months of last year and these idiots fined me $250 even though I had it for most of the year... thats straight mafia shit right now, lol.

Obama has been in office for 7 years and the only gun laws he has done is to allow concealed carry in national parks and to close the gun show loophole which means all gun sales have to operate under the same rules. He isn't after your guns.

Thats the only gun laws he has passed because republicans have shot all his shit down when it comes to gun bills... Im not a big fan of the republican party these days... but God bless them for doing that much.

 He has openly admitted to bribing Hillary when she was in office in New York.

And she openly admitted to accepting it, showing up to his wedding... or accepting $200 thousand an hour for a speech from Goldman Sachs... its no suprise to me the FBI is ready to indict here... obviously for a completely different reason but still... that speaks volumes.

I saw an interesting statistic last week that showed that more deaths in the US were caused by toddlers getting ahold of fire arms than were caused by Islamic terrorism in the US in 2015. 

you are right, just over 20 toddlers were killed by getting a hold of a gun when just under 20 died from terror attacks in the US. but world wide, what is it... like around 40,000 died last year at the hands of Islamic terrorism? Mainly all from the middle east... the same area Obama wants to take 10,000 people from and bring to this country. That just sounds like one of the craziest things I have ever herd. lol.

I don't trust any news media. You gotta look shit up yourself. Visit the irs for starters. 

Your weekly check isn't representative of what you actually owe on taxes. You know that, right? You claim that you just did your taxes and they fined you 250. How much do you owe in taxes? Or are you getting some back?

The source for the mandate is congress. Do you know how the government works at all? Obama can't create a bill. All he can do is encourage congress to make one. Members in the democratic part wrote a bill which included a public option and no mandate. It went into a committee where republicans challenged it repeatedly. It came out of committee with a new name and several amendments. The changes were made in order to get republican support and the bill passed. Then Obama signed it.

Republicans haven't shot down a single gun law because none have been proposed. Obama doesn't write laws. He can only sign them or make executive orders.

The FBI are not ready to indict her. Turn off fox news. Seriously. Being paid to speak at a private function is not illegal. I like how in your mind somehow taking money is worse than giving it. I in no way shape or form support the clintons and have no desire to see her in office but she's not more corrupt than the people paying her off. 

Do you know who Islamic terrorists kill the most? Muslims. The reason there are refugees is because a power mad group is trying to take over a country. They are murdering people in the streets because they want to control people with fear. 

InSainn said

YakkAttack said

InSainn said
By assault weapons I mean semi-automatics and automatics, similar to what your hero Ronald Reagen was in favor of, that's not the same as a total ban on guns you fucking idiot.

One of the most ignorant statement you have made so far... lol.
Im left speechless on so many different levels, lol.

Like I give a damn what an ignorant, redneck, trump supporter thinks of me...

I can't wait to hear what you have to say when ICP drops a track in which they kill, make fun of or insult Trump. I have a feeling it's coming because he is the personification of all the richies they have rapped about over the years.

I have absolutely no dog in this fight because if I get started ill get way too into my political stances...but regardless of his views @yakkattack is from my point of view anything but an ignorant redneck...I bet anyone on here who has talked to him finds him quite contrary....jus saying...

YakkAttack said

@robtidwell  said
I can't really look up shit at the moment and you'll just disagree anyway but tyre tax rates for middle class families are lower under Obama than George W.  There are significantly more credits available for the average family too.

Are we sure about this? I just did some research... 50 articles say taxes were less under Bush, 50 articles say they are lower under Obama... thats the problem with the media, no one just gives the facts, lol. All I know is on my last 2 week pay check (not to get too personal) but I made $2,400 and they took $800 out in taxes leaving me with $1,600... these fucks took a straight 1/3 of my check!! and taxes only keep going up these days! Wtf?!

Wow, you did research and came up with 50 articles. Please link all 50 articles so we can verify the validity of all 50 articles.

As for the penalty for not getting health insurance: you know that mandate was created by republicans right?

Do you have a source? I couldn't find that information anywhere... I know the bill was made by the obama administration... I dont see how republicans would have put that in. I do know that I did my taxes yesterday and I didnt have insurance for the first 5 months of last year and these idiots fined me $250 even though I had it for most of the year... thats straight mafia shit right now, lol.
 

Hypocrisy. You didn't give any sources for your 50 articles. Mitt Romney is the one who came up with the mandate and the republicans overwhelmingly supported it until it was used in Obama care. Chances are that including it was something done so the Republicans wouldn't repeal the law. Basic politics. Please learn that shit before getting involved. Oh, and I didn't know any of this until I searched 'Obamacare Mandate' in google and the first link provided me this information. Chances are you never actually researched it just like you probably never found 50 links. It's such a perfectly rounded and generic large number that you know it's a lie.

Obama has been in office for 7 years and the only gun laws he has done is to allow concealed carry in national parks and to close the gun show loophole which means all gun sales have to operate under the same rules. He isn't after your guns.

Thats the only gun laws he has passed because republicans have shot all his shit down when it comes to gun bills... Im not a big fan of the republican party these days... but God bless them for doing that much.

Prove it. Please provide a link of a gun law the congress has proposed during the Obama administration that the republican party has repealed. I don't think Obama has even started talking gun control until now. Of all 7 years he's just now started bringing it up.

 He has openly admitted to bribing Hillary when she was in office in New York.

And she openly admitted to accepting it, showing up to his wedding... or accepting $200 thousand an hour for a speech from Goldman Sachs... its no suprise to me the FBI is ready to indict here... obviously for a completely different reason but still... that speaks volumes.

Yeah, nobody here likes Hilary. Quit acting like damning her is helping your case. All it proves is that both she and Trump are corrupt and two faced. This was never a Hilary Vs. Trump issue. Just purely anti Trump.

I saw an interesting statistic last week that showed that more deaths in the US were caused by toddlers getting ahold of fire arms than were caused by Islamic terrorism in the US in 2015. 

you are right, just over 20 toddlers were killed by getting a hold of a gun when just under 20 died from terror attacks in the US. but world wide, what is it... like around 40,000 died last year at the hands of Islamic terrorism? Mainly all from the middle east... the same area Obama wants to take 10,000 people from and bring to this country. That just sounds like one of the craziest things I have ever herd. lol.

On gun laws, I have to say I love guns. Why? Because they're fucking cool. But the proof is in the pudding. Take a look at Australia. They have more reason to own guns than us. Most animals there can fucking kill you. But they have gotten strict gun control and it has proven to drastically lower the murder rate there. The reason for getting gun control. Nobody here even wants gun laws as strict as Australia. But it will work. Now will it stop organized crime and school shootings? Fuck no. Those are planned out events done by criminals that won't have any regard for the law anyways. They will find their way to get guns. But it does stop accidental shootings and impulsive murders. This is, again, a proven fact. The whole idea of gun control is not to ban all guns. It's to regulate who gets what. So we know the people getting guns are responsible. Now, I personally like Lupe Fiasco's ideas for gun control. Let's have a different set of laws for each type of gun. You have hunting guns. Show guns. Sports guns. Hand guns and lets just get rid of semi automatic guns. You really think you can fend off your government with a silly little AK? Ha. If the time calls for it, we will be able to find these guns to protect ourselves because the law won't matter anyways. But until then, no there is no reason to have them. Now to expand on the idea of segregating gun laws by hunting guns, show guns, sports guns and hand guns we will have to change the laws based on where you live. Guns to people in Compton mean something totally different from guns to people in Wyoming. So perhaps gun laws should be more of a states right.

Now your little thing about fearing people from the middle east is bigotry. I'm not completely supportive of it because of it's cost. Taking 10,000 people in will cost a lot of money. We should just send them all to Canada. But if Isis wants in the US they will get into the US whether or not we take them in. That's a fact. It's completely ignorant to think other wise. These people don't even want to be here. You really think they want to leave everything they've known, everything they've worked for, they're whole home just to go to some foreign land where they can barely even communicate with us? Fuck no. They have to. And you sit there in your nice comfortable home and you want them to stay in their war torn land where they surely are not safe just so you can feel slightly safer over the very very very small chances of them being a terrorist. That makes you a bigot and a coward.

So we're clear I'm not just calling names, I'm literally stating facts about you. Not calling you an idiot or a moron or dududududa just stating the facts.

 ignorant: lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

You are ignorant because you lack the knowledge of basic politics. Such as the president can't write laws so Republicans can't shoot down laws that the president wrote. You are also lacking the knowledge of what is actually going on in the white house such as the fact that Republicans did support the mandate prior to it being a part of Obamacare and that Obama hasn't even discussed a serious gun control proposal until just recently. Please educate yourself on politics before you get involved.

bigot: a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

Now that can be said about all of us. So you are a bigot. But when I called you a bigot I really meant to call  you a

prejudice: preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.

And combined those are the makings of racism. I am justified in calling you bigoted prejudice because you were trying to insinuate that all people from the middle east hold the same views as Isis. That's false. It's like saying that all white Americans support the KKK. There is no reasoning behind this way of thinking and I'm pretty sure you've never actually been or seen the middle east out side of news clippings of terrorism.

coward: a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things

You lack the courage of letting people who's life's are for sure in danger over the small chance that your life might get slightly less safe.

See, I wasn't calling you an ignorant, bigoted coward over your political views. I called you an ignorant, bigoted coward for saying ignorant things, bigoted things, and cowardly things.

King Lucem Ferre said

CellE2057 said
I don't fit the Liberal or Conservative thing so I don't have anything to add to that. I find myself often defending my conservative views to liberals and often defending my liberal views to conservatives so eh...whatever, man. No one knows the right choice for the country but I'm pretty damned sure it's not as simple as labeling yourself a donkey or an elephant. 

If you're a fan of Trump, fine, whatever. Like Trump, support Trump, promote him, vote for him. I don't agree with you but that's kind of how our country works. Crazy politician MIGHT be what we need now. 

The Anti-Trump shit is baffling to me though. His numbers keep going up because people keep talking about him and then the SAME people scoff at the idea that his numbers are going up. The only reason Trump is now being taken seriously is because people keep taking him seriously. He ran in 2000 as well (around the time he wanted to push a book...kinda like now) but we saw him for what he was and just stopped giving him attention. Why isn't that happening now?

If we just stopped giving him attention, he'd go away and do another reality show that no one would give a shit about. That's what happened before. It's not hard to look that up and it's not hard to come to that conclusion so...why aren't we?

Because people actually support him this time. The fact that he's actually supported is why people are still talking about him which happens to be free promotion and gaining him even more supporters. I'm half sure that a large chunk of people vocalize support for him to intentionally go against the grain, or to get a reaction.

Are you familiar with the Kim Davis shit? If not, you're a better person than me but I'm going to assume that you know about that whole deal because it was impossible to ignore it. Crazy Christian chick was being a crazy Christian chick, rallied a couple people behind her and then like half the country turned it into some Hate Week shit. Sure, she had supporters but they were in the minority and would have eventually just shut up once they realized that she disagreed with something they believed in too because, again, she's crazy. 

The reason she later got support from politicians, and presumably, a book deal and reality show offer, was because of the hate that people had for her. 

Similar setup. It's kind of like when people listen to music that they know damned well they hate. The fuck are you doin? All you have to do is stop and eventually, if enough people agree to stop, the shit will go away. 

I would completely agree that some people support him just to go against or get a reaction. The snowball effect is all I'm sayin'.

InSainn said 
 ... make fun of or insult Trump...

If u insist.

I'm personally offended at the quality of those anal/Trump-mouth beads. Strings break when they're under pressure. You don't want anything breaking in you. Also, that string appears to be cotton. Don't use cotton anything in your body cavities. Unless of course you like the spread of bacteria and STDs.

Remember kids, don't buy low quality sex toys. That is all.