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February 16, 2016
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Scalia was found dead, in bed, with a pillow over his head. No autopsy was performed, and a justice of the peace who never saw the body ruled (over the phone) that Scalia died of 'natural causes.' It's conspiracy Christmas.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new.....-1.2531910

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February 16, 2016
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Psyral Infection said
Ok. I think it's time for some clarification...

I don't really think liberals are insane. As I told @krunkazphuk , I decided it was as good time to poke the bear and stir the pot. It's easy with politics to do that. In fact, on the political spectrum from that test, I was exactly in the middle (Moderate on all axis). I am not against or really for anything that any politician stands for. I pressed buttons to see what would happen. :)

On krunk getting angry? Nope. I live with her and have been married to her for over twenty years so we get each other's humor. We discuss posts that we see on here and she pushes buttons too. Difference is that she doesn't hold back anything in any "tongue - in - cheek" posts. Another thing that ya'll may not realize that she has told me on several occasions, there is no one on this forum that she doesn't wish the best and happiest life to. Fact.

Ok. Now to clarify some individual posts....

Mr. Tidwell said 
I'm not really sure what you mean by the end. You think corporations spending unlimited, unaccountable money on politicians is free speech and that over turning it is the "death of the constitutions" or that corporations spending unlimited, unaccountable money on politics is the death of free speech?

For what its worth, over turning it would also limit the amount of campaigning unions could contribute.

Personally, I think "citizens united" has been a disaster and one of the leading points for me with regards to sanders is that he wants to get corporate citizens out of the game. They manipulate the system and distort facts and mislead voters.

We should actually have a spending cap on politicians too.

@robtidwell , That is a straight fact of what the Bern wants to do. We both agree that corporations are way beyond bounds here and that it invalidates the concept of one voice not being any stronger than any other. It almost gives corporations a bigger say because they give more money. This is something that seems to be against everything that "one voice - one vote" means. In this point, we agree with you completely. Facts about Sanders are just that. No right or wrong opinions. BUT, if you want my opinion, I agree with what he wants to do. And unlimited corporate spending on campaigns being considered free speech is exactly that... a statement of how the Supreme Court currently views it. Not saying right or wrong, just the current judicial view point in this country. Again, my opinion, I do not see money as equivalent to speech. But it is, according to the Supreme Court.

@bayareashaman , about the whole California / Texas thing... I am from California too. And having lived in Texas for quite a while, Krunk and I both know that we do not fit in very well here. We don't ascribe to many stereotypical Texas ideals. Didn't fit in too well in Cali either, not cause of any "Hippy" thing, it's just cause we tend to be outcasts... like I'm sure many of the people on here are. Hippy is just a way blowing the liberal viewpoint way out of proportion beyond what liberalism really is. It's not a real jab. It's just fun name calling. Like calling your best friend a bitch or something.

scruffy said
first off, for the official record, both texas and california aint shit. ...
also, ill add that both psyral and krunk are a hell of a lot more liberal than they think they are. ....

@scruffy , Agreed, Texas and California ain't shit. And to me, neither is US and Canada (Sorry @the_positive_smack ). And we are more liberal than other people think we are (Political spectrum put us as way more moderate than conservative or liberal) but we know we are not conservative or liberal.

...

To conclude, Don't take anything said in a political arena as an attack, especially from me or krunk. This is free speech and we'll always push limits and push buttons and stir the pot. I think @lucem-ferre has the right take on it.

Anyways, as always, we really would never wish anything bad to anyone here. And in truth, krunk is a much nicer in person than I am. She is the first to offer a helping hand and best wishes to anyone and everyone, no matter what. I am not defending her cause she is more than capable of that herself, I just think some clarification was needed on where we stand on all this.

So... Ya'll are all bitches ;) 

I didnt really think u think all liberals are insane. I can tell u was just having a little fun. So was i.

And the whole california Texas thing i could really give two shits less i love your culture not where u from u know? The beach and cowz is just a backdrop. Plus real hippies moved to Humbolt. 

I aslo dont think all texans are hicks. I guess that was me poking the thread or what ever. Really just you. Cuz i dont think u would take it serious. If this isnt obvious then i guess i didnt say it clear enough.

And as for what i said about krunk i take back nothing and genuinely ment no disrespect just felt i had to share my FEELINGS. Im sure u guys get each others jokes.

And as for politics....im one of those guys who feels insnae cuz i dont believe anybody or anything. I think they are ALL puppets. And i cant wait for us to blow up. 

If you guys thought i was angry ok thats fine i realy wasnt but whatever. I never really get angry here i cant think of one. Im sure it happend. Put it this way if u gotta ask yourself if im pissed im probably not. Peace love and boby bugs people!

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February 16, 2016
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bayAreaShaman said 
  ...i had to share my FEELINGS...  

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At least this place isn't the usual echo chamber found on the web.

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February 16, 2016
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krunkazphuk said

scruffy said 
... my homie declared that if texas secedes, hes gonna go to oklahoma and build a border fence. 

Heads up, Oklahoma is now having crazy earthquakes (possibly induced from fracking wastewater being injected into the ground there.) 

this is news...? 

ok has always had mad earthquakes.  mizzo, too. 

generally no one dies, though, so no one outside the area ever hears about em, most times. 

Psyral Infection said
In fact, on the political spectrum from that test, I was exactly in the middle (Moderate on all axis).

'axes'.  with the long e, n shit. 

that test, you know, was written up by someone with an agenda, whatever that agenda mightve been. 

dont get your political views from a cosmo quiz, folks.  if you need to take a quiz to see what you believe politically, you might as well just ask an older person whose opinion you trust, and vote however they tell you.  for real.  [no psyral, i dont think you do this, but you did speak of it as if it wasnt utter trivia] 

id submit that you are far too tolerant of the freaks, psyral, to not be at least in the dead center, and maybe just a tad left of that.  so the test result mighta been correct enough, but still not authoritative at all. 

On krunk getting angry? Nope. I live with her and have been married to her for over twenty years so we get each other's humor. We discuss posts that we see on here and she pushes buttons too. Difference is that she doesn't hold back anything in any "tongue - in - cheek" posts. Another thing that ya'll may not realize that she has told me on several occasions, there is no one on this forum that she doesn't wish the best and happiest life to. Fact. 

thats great and all, but the thing about tongue-in-cheek is that most people wont take it that way;  thats the whole point of it. 

when somebody steps on the bear trap, you cant bitch about them walkin on your stuff. 

Again, my opinion, I do not see money as equivalent to speech. But it is, according to the Supreme Court.  

massive oversimplification...  but, pretty much on target, for our purposes. 

And having lived in Texas for quite a while, Krunk and I both know that we do not fit in very well here. We don't ascribe to many stereotypical Texas ideals. 

no...  shit... 

never woulda guessed. 

eh, the lack of dinnerplate-sized belt buckles or profuse racial epithets was a tipoff, i suppose.  the accents, and proper english.  no waving of flags to make points.  having conversation that dont constantly get twisted into cheesy texas commercials.  and the fact that youre fuckin juggalos to begin with. 

 

you two are way closer to being bleeding heart hippies than reactionary hawks.  hell, im probably more of a hawk than yall are. 

a real hawk would think you guys are palmolive soft.  bet that. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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scruffy said 
this is news...?   
ok has always had mad earthquakes.  mizzo, too...
 

Supposedly injecting fracking waste water into the ground may have drastically increased Oklahoma's seismic activity:

"Currently, Oklahoma is recording 2-1/2 earthquakes daily of a magnitude 3 or greater, a seismicity rate 600 times greater than observed before 2008, the report by the Oklahoma Geological Survey (OGS) said."

http://www.nbcnews.com/science.....ls-n345821

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...a real hawk would think you guys are palmolive soft.  bet that. 

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February 16, 2016
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krunkazphuk said

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the stalest trick the world ever pulled was convincing itself that the devil exists. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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scruffy said 

the stalest trick the world ever pulled was convincing itself that the devil exists. 

Maybe, but Satan makes some great movies.

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February 16, 2016
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scruffy said
you meant 'secede', yeah? 

Derp, yes. I was quick posting and had misspelled it in the first place, right clicked to auto correct without checking upon save annnnd ... I sound like an idiot.

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February 17, 2016
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I took a Side With quiz, I guess I'm libertarian, and side with a dude named Gary Johnson. 

I couldn't post pictures like you guys with my iPad. But after Libertarian, second place for me was The Green Party (Whatever that is, someone told me they were hippies), third is Constitutionalists Party, fourth is Democrats, and fifth is Republican. So, I'm an extreme republican hippie that's also a democrat on the side, humph. 

As with presidents. 

1. Gary Johnson 

2. Ted Cruz 

3. Ben Carson 

4. Bernie Sanders

5. Jeb Bush 

6. Up Like Donald Trump!!!!

7. Michael Bloomberg

8. Hilary (oh Jesus) 

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JiffyLong said 
 ...second place for me was The Green Party (Whatever that is, ...

Here's the Green Party platform from http://www.gp.org/

The Real Difference

Support full access to abortion, with funding, for all women in the U.S. and around the world. Republicans: Oppose abortion
Democrats: Support abortion rights. Sometimes.
Bail out the people Republicans: No Bailouts
Democrats: Bail out the banks
Jail for Banksters Republicans: Reject
Democrats: Will Not Act
Refuse to accept corporate contributions. Demand an end to special rights for corporations & an end to big money elections Republicans & Democrats: Accepts donations from corporations, including defense contractors, oil companies, insurance and drug firms, etc. Republican officials indicted or under investigation of bribery, perjury, etc.
Oppose Corporations as Persons Republicans: Support
Democrats: Support
Refuse Corporate Campaign Contributions Republicans: Support with open hands
Democrats: Support with open hands
Support labeling of genetically modified organism Republicans: Oppose
Democrats: Thinking, Thinking ...
Oppose the death penalty citing racial bias, failure to deter crime, widespread errors, and humanitarian objections. Republicans: Overwhelmingly support it
Democrats: Lukewarm support for it
Support electoral reform including Instant Runoff Voting and public financing of elections. Open debates. Republicans & Democrats: Works for us, why change anything
Oppose Keystone XL Pipeline Republicans: Support
Democrats: Lukewarm opposition
Reduce emissions NOW

Convert to renewable energy sources such as low-cost wind and solar power.

Republicans: Bush withdrew the U.S. from the Kyoto Treaty to reduce greenhouse gases and fossil fuel use (oil, coal). Wants to lower emissions standards to try to reduce gas prices.

Democrats: Willing to weaken emissions standards to lower gas prices. Promotes subsidies to corporate agriculture as a way to reduce petroleum consumption.

Oppose Drone Warfare & Assassinations Republicans: Support
Democrats: Support
Oppose Israeli takeover of Palestine Republicans: Support
Democrats: Support
Reduce the military budget Republicans: Increase the budget
Democrats: Increase the budget
Fully support the Social Security system Republicans: Cut it to the bone
Democrats: Will accept cuts
Support a Jubilee for Student Debt Republicans: Oppose
Democrats: Oppose
Support a living wage and the right to organize Republicans: Oppose
Democrats: Weak support
Demand real universal health care: Single-payer national health insurance, with guaranteed treatment and medicine regardless of age, ability to pay, employment, prior medical condition, including choice of doctors and hospitals. Republicans: Oppose guaranteed universal health care; Support health policy based on corporate profits for insurance, HMO, and drug companies instead of human need.

Democrats: Support health policy based on corporate profits; Deleted plans for universal health care from the Democratic platform.

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the_smack said 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLQWA35er3g

and no matter who is your next president is our Canadian Prime Minister could kick his ass

Nope. This video convinces me even Bernie's scrappier than Mr. Pink Shirt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3225q0CQY

YouTube Video Justin Trudeau - Pink Shirt Day (Türkçe Altyazılı) 

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I'm only voting for wants to destroy the country. If none of the candidates are capable of doing so than I'll run for presidency. 

Whoop Whoop GanjaGoblin :

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the_smack said
da fuq??

whats wrong with wearing pink shirts??...
 

Nothing. His

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stance is why I think Mr. Pink Shirt's goin down.

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GanjaGoblin said
I'm only voting for wants to destroy the country. 

I think a lot of people think that but aren't willing to say it. 

I'm definitely voting for Jill Stein (I'm glad some of you had her so high on your results. Hopefully you look into her platform and if you agree, throw your vote her way. The reality of a third party candidate being voted in is getting closer and closer) but the idea of voting for Trump because he will, without question, get us closer to a full blown revolution is very appealing. 

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GanjaGoblin said
I'm only voting for wants to destroy the country... 

According to this Mormon, "pray away the gay" weathervane, Trump is your candidate. Romney loved Trump in 2012; he hates Trump now. "Welcome to the show:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ra49vMF_-0

YouTube Video Mitt Romney On Donald Trump 2012 Vs 2016 

lol

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the_smack said
http://www.mtlblog.com/2016/03.....ree-money/

awsome sauce I will love getting an extra 1000$  month for doing nothing

your next american president should do this considering how poor so many americans are.

That seems like a Sanders platform; Trump, however, would more likely steal a kidney from every Canadian to sell on the black market to fund Free Ice Cream Tuesdays before dishing out unconditional welfare.

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the_smack said
do not vote for trump please

I like the guy and all but too many of you American's are saying your going to immigrate to Canada if he's the president...

Maybe those potential future immigrants should consider moving to Mexico if Trump wins. That would take their diversity hashtags to the next level (real life?)

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First post! Gotta ask how many Juggalos actually vote? Trump is a dick. I'll probably write in my dick again (buttmeat's dick if anyone else wants to). 

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buttmeat said
First post! Gotta ask how many Juggalos actually vote? Trump is a dick...

Butt, his new ad with Hillary barking (like a bitch?) is lol!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWQ2ykC0C4

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