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Project Veritas Exposes Bias in Algorithms
July 11, 2019
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Here’s an uncensored riffed take. Love this show…

YouTube Video Google Plan to Prevent “Trump situation” in 2020

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July 11, 2019
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Q said

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Here’s an uncensored riffed take. Love this show…

YouTube Video Google Plan to Prevent “Trump situation” in 2020  

Here is some more fun 

Runnin' Out Of Time / Looking For The Light / Something Isnt Right / The Devil's Grip Is Tight / Cause I'm Runnin' Out Of Time / Leave It All Behind / If My Soul Was On The Line / Can My Body Hide / From The Devil Inside

July 11, 2019
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TheRevWells said

Here is some more fun 

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July 11, 2019
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July 11, 2019
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Project Veritas is run by known fraud and has been proven to post doctored  videos on several occasions.

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Pigg said
Project Veritas is run by known fraud and has been proven to post doctored  videos on several occasions.  

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July 11, 2019
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There isnt anything doctored about the situation. This has been my obsession since Jack Dorsey went on Rogan. Ive been listening to a metric fuckton of conversations on it at work. This is some heavy shit going on. This ain’t some far right conspiracy shit. This affects everybody.

I assumed that comment would probably be made.

I think I’ll take Dave Rubins word for it.

July 11, 2019
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Pigg said
Project Veritas is run by known fraud and has been proven to post doctored  videos on several occasions.  

Known fraud? Yes, he edits video. Accusations of doctoring stem from the edits. BUT… he posts the unedited videos too. They are too boring for social media. Sometimes hours of just chit chat around the minute or so of what is relevant.

Can you show me what video he “doctored”? 

I can actually see the fraud thing if looked at in a certain way. He has people pose as someone who they really aren’t to get the information he uses. Is it fraud in the legal sense? Maybe. It is definitely purposeful deception targeted to obtain information. The information is not false.

The video posted above from Project Veritas was not false. The person in the video even made a public statement saying “Project Veritas got me. Well done.”.

For full disclosure, she also said, “But despite what the video may have you believe, I’m not involved in any of these products, just like I’m not involved in any of the other topics Project Veritas baited me into discussing (whether it’s antitrust, Congress, or the dozens of other topics that didn’t appear in the video, on which I presumably didn’t say anything that could be twisted to their advantage). I was having a casual chat with someone at a restaurant and used some imprecise language.”

Now the problem with her statement is that James accounted for possible denial of involvement and after her statement released internal Google documents that showed that she was, indeed, involved with the projects discussed. 

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I’m not sure there is anything fun about the situation  

It is actually very serious. This borders, or even crosses the border, on election meddling. The video plus the internal Google docs, show direct attempts to alter the thoughts of people who use the largest search engine on the planet. It is Social Engineering, not Search Querying. 

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July 11, 2019
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It goes beyond the election. They are taking it upon themselves to try to mold society by pushing a certain way of thinking on anyone using their website.

This isnt even just an American thing. The world uses google and YouTube.

This is going to be a huge huge huge issue in the next few years

Whoop whoop Slumerican502 :

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Slumerican502 said
It goes beyond the election. They are taking it upon themselves to try to mold society by pushing a certain way of thinking on anyone using their website.

This isnt even just an American thing. The world uses google and YouTube.

This is going to be a huge huge huge issue in the next few years  

And the reason I call bullshit is because one of the first things you find when searching for the doc of supposed black listed sites that Project Veritas leaked is one of the allegedly black listed sites complaining about being black listed.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-post-blacklisted-by-google-whistleblower-reveals.html

 

^ Fourth site that pops up.

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I was quick to jump on the ‘Google has a liberal bias’ bandwagon before Project Veritas but all the evidence, like this, and the Prager U vids constantly being shoved down my throat on YouTube claiming that YouTube is trying to censor them, kind of made me realize it was just a bunch of propaganda and fear mongering bullshit. As important it is to know how much Google controls the information we can see it’s also important to not fall for the lies that obvious right wing conspiracy theorists are pushing through Google, ironically.

One thing that all platforms are actually talking about doing (and failing at) is censoring dangerous false information. That would have a skew against right wing ideas and the beginning of that was the banning of Alex Jones. Because they inspire literal acts of terrorism with guns and murder. Not that Antifa shit where a handful of people get into fist fights with milk shakes, but actual legit terrorism where innocent people die that for what ever reason is completely ignored by the people trying to convince us that Antifa are terrorists. Almost as if it’s biased propaganda not so different from the type of misinformation and lies that fascists exploit.

That’s also why I’ll always hold you or whoever else accountable to provide proof of claims they make. People like to say things and nobody ever thinks they are going to have to prove it. And if they can’t, it makes you wonder why people believe so strongly in things that they can’t prove.

September 9, 2019
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Great, I’m all for it.

Trump supporters are not able to think or act correctly, anyhow. Let’s brainwash the hell out of you fuckers.

Sigh.

I tried “Donald Trump sc” hoping for SCANDAL to appear, but Google had his back in a rather unbiased way.

THEN when I typed in “Donald Trump scandal” it appears that THEY HAVE HIS BACK AGAIN.

BUT!!!! I typed “Hillary Clinton email” and “scandal” appeared AS THE SECOND SUGGESTION. 

Goddamn you people are insane. Just completely sick.

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September 9, 2019
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The whole blacklist was NOT for google searches in general. It was specifically for the “Top Stories” section and is no longer implemented… has not been for over a year. Any searches you do will NOT show anything being “blacklisted”. And even if you archived searches from before the removal of the implementation, you would still see the sites in google, just not in Top Stories.

I think I posted a link to the internal google doc on here a while back. Not a search black list, a Top Stories blacklist. 

None of the sites in the list have any search bias for any general search. And definitely don’t have any restrictions for over a year on Top Stories any more.

To see stories about the bias, restrict searches of articles back before 2018.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/09/10/trump-google-youtube-search-results-biased-against-republicans-conservatives-column/1248099002/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/23/internet-giants-show-power-to-shape-politics/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/technology/google-search-political-bias.html

You get the idea.

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I typed up a bunch of shit on my break earlier, then deleted it.

It aint even worth the fucking time. I’ll continue to listen to people from both sides of the aisle talk about whats going on for hours at a time.

You two keep typing a few words into Google and calling it a day rather than listening to both progressives and conservitives having conversations about how these things have affected them and the peers around them.

I mean for fucks sake, I basically only listen to progressives and libertarians on podcasts and YouTube.

I’m much much closer to a liberal than a Republican.

Yall two? As soon as the word Republican or right wing is mentioned you immediately write it off. 

Who the fuck is the sick one here?

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September 9, 2019
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fuck google

let’s all go back to yahoo

remember when yahoo was the shit??

yahoo messenger

that’s where I evolved  first I was fuct_in_mtl then the_almighty_smack on their chat rooms I talked so much shit back then and I mean talked you could press the talk button and everyone could hear you completly destroyed people like that little twink Luka Magnotta he was always on there under the name acutekinkyboy ..

I used to go after the arabs and itaians the most 

shut the fuck up and tell your mom to wove me a carpet

sharmuta how many rainbow spots on on your screen right now? because these people spit when they talk

you fucking wop you stole pasta from China just like you stole homosexuality from the greeks faggot

you went to Pearson you mambo italiano faggot let em guess you have a ferrari sticker on your honda civic and you spray dolce & gabbana on your balls

I was getting death threats I got doxed before doxing was a thing and bouquets of flowers would show up at my house I loved that shit

mind you this was 15 years ago before the whole world started consuming record amounts of soy, now I live under the Canadian libtard government I would probably go to jail for that sort of behavior

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Psyral Infection said
The whole blacklist was NOT for google searches in general. It was specifically for the “Top Stories” section and is no longer implemented… has not been for over a year. Any searches you do will NOT show anything being “blacklisted”. And even if you archived searches from before the removal of the implementation, you would still see the sites in google, just not in Top Stories.

I think I posted a link to the internal google doc on here a while back. Not a search black list, a Top Stories blacklist. 

None of the sites in the list have any search bias for any general search. And definitely don’t have any restrictions for over a year on Top Stories any more.

To see stories about the bias, restrict searches of articles back before 2018.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/09/10/trump-google-youtube-search-results-biased-against-republicans-conservatives-column/1248099002/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/23/internet-giants-show-power-to-shape-politics/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/technology/google-search-political-bias.html

You get the idea.  

It’s funny because they’re coming to unjustified conclusions with the only sources showing that Google was tampering with algorithms to keep people on Google. The only source that mentioned anything about a political bias was one that never said anything about it being intentional. Which is why I hold people accountable for the claims they make. Give proof because mother fuckers are lying and jumping to conclusions. Especially news articles that sensationalize every thing to make a money.

Even funnier is that the first person to really dig into the power of Google algorithms and their flaws was somebody that noticed Google searches often bring up racist searches when searching things based on race. Which obviously wasn’t intended, it’s just a flaw with their algorithms.

What’s sadder is that because of these unbacked accusations coming from more conservative sources Facebook is actually pushing tons and tons of right wing adverts on people with an unfair lack of left wing material. Yet I still hear claims that the internet is trying to silence the right. No, they aren’t. And if they are they’re failing miserably.

Back to funny is this ironically contradicts the right wing ideas of a free market. So they support regulating the internet based on disproven theories of biased censorship. Reality, is that they want their opinions and views to be the first people see despite the fact that Google tries to give the least biased and most factual articles the most exposure so people can build their own ideas. How ever when it comes to regulating oil industries and other business that are killing the earth it’s about the free market and helping the economy. When it comes to regulating bank loans so they don’t exploit people it’s about the free market and helping the economy. When it comes to affirmative action laws it’s about the free market and a business’s right to choose unless a business decides it wants to diversify.

 

I’m completely against search engines and social media pushing a legit bias except for when it comes to common sense things. Such as when people look up global warming don’t give us a bunch of deniers to be fair to both sides. When people research WWII and the Holocaust don’t give results from Neo Nazis and Holocaust deniers to be fair to both sides. When people research information on the cosmology and origins of our planet, don’t give links to flat Earthers to be fair to both sides. Give us the proven facts over misinformation.

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Slumerican502 said
I typed up a bunch of shit on my break earlier, then deleted it.

It aint even worth the fucking time. I’ll continue to listen to people from both sides of the aisle talk about whats going on for hours at a time.

You two keep typing a few words into Google and calling it a day rather than listening to both progressives and conservitives having conversations about how these things have affected them and the peers around them.

I mean for fucks sake, I basically only listen to progressives and libertarians on podcasts and YouTube.

I’m much much closer to a liberal than a Republican.

Yall two? As soon as the word Republican or right wing is mentioned you immediately write it off. 

Who the fuck is the sick one here?  

No, you’re not here with an unbiased talk about the dangers of Google algorithms and how they can affect ALL of us.

 

You’re here with a right wing conspiracy theory that Google is censoring conservative sites. That’s what Project Veritas is, Slum. Don’t play innocent.

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