it's a money thing. cheap ass psy., don't wanna pay and Twz., wants mo money then sum played out 90's rapper, nobody gives a shit about, but Violent J.!

Old Mr Dangerous said
Sigh. Fucking SIGH. Okay, let's get it on.....

 

When I type on here.with you all, my internet friends and family, it is a personal outlet for me to discuss this awesomely unique littlebig world that we are all a part of. I dont discuss Faygoluvers talks barely at all with anyone outside of the internet. It is a special outlet for me as a Juggalo human being who is hated and ridiculed by the majority of people and even my own friends for supporting and enjoying this crazy littlebig world. Tonight, however, I talked to my wife about the Twiztid and ICP drama for one of the very few times ever.

It annoys me that as a grownass man, a hardworking, mature, reasonable human, that I have succumbed to being upset by this drama. I have so many real problems going on outside of this Juggalo world that we inhabit, that it is almost embarassing to even give this drama.bullshit a single sentence. But here we are. And it is the same.old shit. Maybe now people will stop lying to themselves about the real emotions involved here. I am.guilty of it as well, and even those of you that I consider more intelligent than myself are guilty as well. Here is the truth, reiterated once again:

- the Twiztid song and video lyrics WERE AND ARE subliminal disses. This is.not an opinion, this is a fact. Most of us, including myself, do not want this to be true. But it is. I attribute it to parent's divorcing.

- it is and has always been Paul Methric behind the whining and the lack of appreciation. Many of us have met the guy, and he just has the vibe of an asshole. Monoxide is an asshole. This is a fact. The man himself probably would not deny this.

- James Spaniolo is more appreciative and humble than his cohort. He says what he has to say and does what he has to do to save face and have his hetero lifemate's back. I can respect this, without liking it. I believe that if Mono quit the game, Madrox would not have or display ill feelings toward ICP or PSY. "He is a stand up guy" Joseph Bruce once remarked about Jamie during the KMK Twiztid beef. 

- despite wanting to be above all of this stupid shit, after talking with my wife, who has attended many Gatherings and shows with me, she put it all so simple and clear. I said that Monoxides behavior affects many of the fanbases' morale, and it shouldnt matter but it does. "They are a very big part of our lives," she said. This is a fact. We are some of the least Juggaloed-out Juggalos around. I have a Dark Lotus cross tat, and named my first born child Lotus. My brother Jesse was killed and cremated in a lime green Twoztid jersey. My oldest brother had numerous ICP tats and was reduced to ashes as well, years later. We all attended the very first GOTJ together. I could go on all day about stories related to this world. This world that ICP created and let Twiztid, my homies, into to thrive and grow. It would be nutty to say that both of these groups havent had monumental impacts on our lives. We rarely wear Hatchet Gear and only make it to a show a year nowadays, if that. But god DAMN it, these grown ass men who rap and sing are A PART OF ALL OF OUR LIVES. This is not a trivial thing. 

- I understand that Joe Bruce can be shady. A shady businessman, sure. Sadistic, even. Many ex PSY employees have uttered this. But the obese goofball in the clownpaint always stands out as the most mature and heartfelt individual in that whole circus, so his word means much more to me. My wife said "ICP made them who they are", and its blunt but true. Show some fucking respect. Monoxide wont. He will never grow up. 

- We were planning on hitting up the Greely, CO Twiztid show this Sunday. Until I saw this, I was hype. After Mono and his faggot ass manager George invited all of this drama, I am no longer sure if I will attend. And I havent seem Twiztid since 2010. 

I still have respect for them all. Time to mature. 

I appreciate this 100%.  Some people are going to take sides, some people enjoy the drama, but if you have real love for both ICP and Twiztid, this sucks.  Personally I don't give a shit about Twiztid myself but I do give a shit about the community and people that I know feel that way.  Hopefully the fact that J's message has already been taken down is a sign that there's not that much to this after all.   

them not showing up will also cancel lotus and rydas ..even more disappointing

either way you look at it, it's a bad move for twiztid

the multiple icp shows is an awesome idea

but hey, a night where ICP does nothing but rarities? i would sacrifice a year without Twiztid mad quickly!

Man as soon as I saw that periscope video I was like really?? Plus ICP had every right to assume boondox was leavin to go to MNE.. But this is some bitch shit on twiztid's side for wanting a public apology, step the fuck back from the politics of music, and see the big picture, boondox told PSY he was leavin, had been/was goin to tour with MNE, Where the fuck else would he be goin?? Even if twiztid announced it themselves no one would have gave a FUCK.. On some real shit though, I have been heavily listening to twiztid since I was 16 and their style since leavin psy hasn't really progressed they just collab with who they want now, ICP put out MDP which is a favorite now, put out House of wax some of their best imo, Killjoy, and lost was ight only cuz I relate to found which has grown on me.. Twiztid is the shit I will still say that but the whole time we all know ICP is fuckin untouchable, they started this juggalo shit. Twiztid not playin gotj will  be the end of them, I say that even being a twiztid fan. This whole situation hurts twiztid not ICP

They both are acting like little bitches.

Monoxide's subliminal disses, and Violent J is of course trying to look perfectly innocent. So judging the beef that I said for a while now was bubbling under the surface (cough, cough) and taking sides is pretty dumb to me. Nobody knows the full story except for them so best thing is to butt out of it and let shit happen.

I wish Twiztid would stop talking shit because they don't even have to work with ICP now. There is no reason to be running their mouths so much.

I wish ICP would cut this whole "if it weren't for us you'd be nothing" shtick too. So? With out them your label wouldn't have been shit. It wasn't charity, it was an investment.

I do hope Twiztid can swallow their pride and do the gathering. I will lose respect for them if they didn't do it, though I doubt it will be their downfall. I also don't think they can pull off their own gathering.

mentalcaseproject said
Twiztid has practically lost all their humor (in the music anyways)

This is exactly why I like Twiztid more than ICP though. The deeper or more horrorcore songs resonate better with me and are played more often where as the funny songs fade away as soon as the joke gets old. I want songs that I can go back to over the years rather than stale jokes.