Think about it. If Twiztid isn't there, Blaze won't be there either. Nor will Boondox if he is rolling with them. 

As long as they both continue to put out music, I'm fine. It doesn't affect me. 

It's just a shame that grown men have to act like children, on both parts. 

LuckyNumbrXIII said
Blaze should just jump the sinking ship and go back to psy. 

Yea, that would be dope, but I feel like he never wanted to leave Psy to begin with.  There was that misunderstanding and after that he sort of felt like he had to go with Twiztid, is the way I see it.  

BruceLeeWayne said
I hate how cocky Twiztid is. This past seminar they had was a joke. I love how mono saying ICP takes there stabs when they can. This whole time Mono is the one who has been taking stabs publicly, what a fucking diva. What irked me is when they say before Twiztid, Juggalo was just a word and that they changed it to something to give it a meaning...first of all fuck off cuz ive been down before Twiztid even joined the label and majority of my friends were Juggalos and we all acted the same before the "family" era. And for the record that whole family thing is bullshit, all im saying is if were fam, were the fuck is my Christmas presents. On the real tho, the only time "fam" means something is when im standing in line at a juggalo event and someone wants to bum a smoke. Were just a group of people who happen to like the same music, and the fact that "juggalo homies" have to converse thru there management just shows that its bout ego. Like for real, your pissed cuz ICP said that DuneDox was joining your label? So you have to get on periscope and act a fool and start something publicly that you just got done bitching about when that one Juggalo at Twiztids seminar asked a question on the REAL truth bout departing PSY... then when J does the something he didnt even have to do (apologize) you DEMAND a public one, Wow bro. What happened to an old fashion phone call to settle shit among "friends", i mean they are friends right? The song Superstar by ICP seems to be well fitting for Twiztid at the moment.

"I don't need old friends, I'm way bigger
Sorry, my phones ringing, it's Tommy Hilfiger
I'll see you when I see if I remember who you are
After all, you're talking with the superstar"

Exactly.  I tried editing my post to say basically what you just said...but for some reason it said that I didn't have permission to edit??  Anyways, I was just saying that it's really strange that ICP can't just call up their (ex?) homies, they are more than simple business associates so why are they going through management to begin with?  In the chat J made it clear that he had been trying to get a hold of Twiztid with no luck and he was practically asking Scottie D to help him get a hold of Twiztid...even without the other stuff going on, that's an issue right there!  

I honestly hope not, but it feels like Twiztid is keeping Juggalos around and semi-happy because we are essentially their only money-maker.  Half the shit they say about the Juggalo community is just down-right offensive (though I really don't think they even mean it that way, they are just so full of themselves right now that they don't see it).  Like that there wouldn't be Juggalos if it weren't for Twiztid? Uhm yea fuck that.  Essentially, us Juggalos made ourselves, after coming together as a fan-base for ICP, thank you very much.  

This is easily the saddest thing to ever happen in Psy/Juggalo history.  When I first heard/realized what was happening years ago, I got so fucking depressed for awhile.  I can barely listen to the old Twiztid songs that I once loved, because all I can think about is the bs that they're doing now (aka the ego-maniacs they have become).  I went to their seminar last gathering, hoping that they were going to say something to make it better, to show that they can be humble, to explain wtf has been going on. But instead they just acted like dicks.  Turning a Juggalo's dead homie (brother?) into a joke and flippin out on that ninja who asked a question, like an indignant child.  Like someone else said, as a Juggalo, Twiztid was once such a huge part of my life.  So many memories have their songs as the backdrop.  I never imagined anything like this would happen.  It's nothing but fucking sad.  But I can't just sit here and support them being cocky as shit just because of old memories.  Hopefully one day they'll turn around.  

LuckyNumbrXIII said
He's right. They did give juggalos family a new meaning. 

 

It means "guaranteed sales" to them. I'm not part of that definition. 

same here

Psyral Infection said
It seems that article has been removed from the Hatchet Harold: http://www.hatchetherald.com/ and the mention of it has disappeared from the FLH front page article: https://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/.....er-9-2015/

DAMN IT! I was looking forward to seeing 3 different ICP sets next year, lol. oh well... Twiztid and Lotus will have to do then.

What chat are all of you refering to?

I was at work so I missed whatever it was.

Summa ya'll sound like the "prophets of doom" in so many cheesy movies screaming about the end of the world every time there's an eclipse or earthquake 'er some shit... and now wanna seize on this like it proves everything you ever said was true. That only YOU were able to see the light while everyone else was blind... pfft...

THIS TIME, yeah Mono dissed ICP with that video (and why did it take this long to hit?). THIS TIME, yeah not picking up the phone and hiding behind their manager was some beef.... THIS. TIME.

And some of you are forgetting the actual order of events and manipulating them to suit your own needs. Twiztid's Gathering seminar took place BEFORE ICP... so anything said there had nothing to do with J making the Boondox announcement. For as much as you all wanna act like Madrox was being a dick, *I* took it as clearing the air with the same assholes that now wanna play retroactive prophet by putting an end to the beef storyline that these kinds of people have been trying to narrate for the group. And it did.... until this shit. THAT was Mono. HE fucked all this up. For THIS incident. Don't be goin' back through all your lyrics and claim that what is going on NOW is contained in the words of the PAST.

Madrox may have been the louder of the two but go back and watch that seminar and you'll see that it was MONOXIDE that first but dude in his place about bringing up the tweet regarding having kids in the studio... Madrox just put the finishing move on it.

Until THIS.

And yes, this does put a spin on things now for people including me. I was actually gonna pay out for the VIP to meet Twiztid when they come to my town on the 24th and actually THANK them for putting that guy in his place at the Gathering because it helped the rest of us put an end to the bullshit beef conversations and threads.... but now... I don't know. I'll still pay to go to FrightFest and enjoy the hell out of it but I don't know if I'd wanna try to speak to them on ANY thing from the Gathering now that it's such a third rail...

And how the fuck is Monoxide's little statement supposed to make Boondox feel about it all? I didn't go to Boondox's seminar but I heard that someone had asked if he WAS gonna sign with MNE and the answer was the usual joking of "That's all speculation"... haha... but with Mono saying that shit, I guess Boondox is the adopted kid stuck with the parent that didn't want him in the first place?

IF Twiztid does 17 then I'm bettin' there won't be a seminar for ANY of 'em on MNE; not because Psy won't let 'em but because MNE won't want anyone asking them questions about this shit... AND I'm bettin' it'll be more like two people acting like kids using their managers to talk for them in the same room, "David, tell Twiztid they go on in an hour" "They told me to tell you okay"....

There's gonna need to be a lot of mending of fences with the fanbase on this shit let alone between the artists....

"They fucked up! They fucked up! They fucked up!!!"

JC said

BruceLeeWayne said
I hate how cocky Twiztid is. This past seminar they had was a joke. I love how mono saying ICP takes there stabs when they can. This whole time Mono is the one who has been taking stabs publicly, what a fucking diva. What irked me is when they say before Twiztid, Juggalo was just a word and that they changed it to something to give it a meaning...first of all fuck off cuz ive been down before Twiztid even joined the label and majority of my friends were Juggalos and we all acted the same before the "family" era. And for the record that whole family thing is bullshit, all im saying is if were fam, were the fuck is my Christmas presents. On the real tho, the only time "fam" means something is when im standing in line at a juggalo event and someone wants to bum a smoke. Were just a group of people who happen to like the same music, and the fact that "juggalo homies" have to converse thru there management just shows that its bout ego. Like for real, your pissed cuz ICP said that DuneDox was joining your label? So you have to get on periscope and act a fool and start something publicly that you just got done bitching about when that one Juggalo at Twiztids seminar asked a question on the REAL truth bout departing PSY... then when J does the something he didnt even have to do (apologize) you DEMAND a public one, Wow bro. What happened to an old fashion phone call to settle shit among "friends", i mean they are friends right? The song Superstar by ICP seems to be well fitting for Twiztid at the moment.

"I don't need old friends, I'm way bigger
Sorry, my phones ringing, it's Tommy Hilfiger
I'll see you when I see if I remember who you are
After all, you're talking with the superstar"

Exactly.  I tried editing my post to say basically what you just said...but for some reason it said that I didn't have permission to edit??  Anyways, I was just saying that it's really strange that ICP can't just call up their (ex?) homies, they are more than simple business associates so why are they going through management to begin with?  In the chat J made it clear that he had been trying to get a hold of Twiztid with no luck and he was practically asking Scottie D to help him get a hold of Twiztid...even without the other stuff going on, that's an issue right there!  

I honestly hope not, but it feels like Twiztid is keeping Juggalos around and semi-happy because we are essentially their only money-maker.  Half the shit they say about the Juggalo community is just down-right offensive (though I really don't think they even mean it that way, they are just so full of themselves right now that they don't see it).  Like that there wouldn't be Juggalos if it weren't for Twiztid? Uhm yea fuck that.  Essentially, us Juggalos made ourselves, after coming together as a fan-base for ICP, thank you very much.  

This is easily the saddest thing to ever happen in Psy/Juggalo history.  When I first heard/realized what was happening years ago, I got so fucking depressed for awhile.  I can barely listen to the old Twiztid songs that I once loved, because all I can think about is the bs that they're doing now (aka the ego-maniacs they have become).  I went to their seminar last gathering, hoping that they were going to say something to make it better, to show that they can be humble, to explain wtf has been going on. But instead they just acted like dicks.  Turning a Juggalo's dead homie (brother?) into a joke and flippin out on that ninja who asked a question, like an indignant child.  Like someone else said, as a Juggalo, Twiztid was once such a huge part of my life.  So many memories have their songs as the backdrop.  I never imagined anything like this would happen.  It's nothing but fucking sad.  But I can't just sit here and support them being cocky as shit just because of old memories.  Hopefully one day they'll turn around.  

Twiztid treat juggalos like tech n9ne does, shouts them out when its time to make money,but desperately trying to distance himself from us