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Hells cellar, and the verdict is....
July 20, 2018
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Mannnnn I aint posted in forever but wanted to see the response to this shit. Fuckin Fire imo! The Wraith era Violent J> 

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July 21, 2018
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 Why did J diss CHINO XL though?

Can anyone provide any context?

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July 21, 2018
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Karacalla said
 Why did J diss CHINO XL though?
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Can anyone provide any context?  

Chino rapped one line about them on a song called "Never"..

"Fuck the Insane Clown Posse, of rap they're making a mockery"

 

Check out the "Talib Kweli disses ICP" thread

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July 21, 2018
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What songs did Talib diss ICP on? 

July 21, 2018
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I wonder what the AMB haters think about "Takin' It Away" haha, oh so now it's dope that ICP did it...

9+8  

I've always liked that track by AMB and it was cool to hear the original, to me it just shows how generous ICP can be to give other artists they sign beats that they already have and basically a song already written that they just need to write a verse for. To me it's just more proof of why AMB could be called ungrateful cunts if they have the nerve to diss ICP, which to my knowledge they haven't publicly, it's all just sneak diss speculation for what I've heard.

July 21, 2018
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Old Mr Dangerous said

Chino rapped one line about them on a song called "Never"..

"Fuck the Insane Clown Posse, of rap they're making a mockery"

 

Check out the "Talib Kweli disses ICP" thread  

Damn, I did not know that, thanks.

Chino XL is a rappers rapper though, In one freestyle, yes a freestyle, he destroyed 2pac live on air in the middle of their beef.

For 2 minutes, get it, 2...Minutes the man picked 'em apart.

2pac personally called him and squashed all beef, which is rare. I love ICP, but lets keep it real. They would have got eating alive.

THE FUN STARTS AT THE 2 MINUTE MARK.

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July 21, 2018
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Karacalla said

Didn't you attend the gathering this year?

Haha are you new here

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If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

July 21, 2018
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Noah Fence said

Karacalla said
Didn't you attend the gathering this year?

Haha are you new here  

I Don't understand why my question would garner this response, but what the hell Noah, i'll bite.

What makes me new here, since I've been on board, literally, since 2014? 

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July 21, 2018
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Ok finally got a chance to listen, just a few quick reactions upon my first listen. I never listened to Jumpsteady's albums so I would never have known some of these beats ended up being used elsewhere, but there are some pretty nice beats on here. Clown Show being a standout for sure in that department, definitely my favorite track on this EP. 

I Can See It All was a little weird with how J's voice is pitched down for the entirety of his voices but still pretty cool. The down pitch thing is a very Young Wicked production thing to do, though it normally wasn't for full verses. 

I feel like Big Bad Wolf had a lot of potential but maybe didn't quite live up to it. It has the feel of trying to re-capture the vibe of the Wizard Of The Hood EP. Still not bad but definitely could have been epic. 

Overall, I  enjoy this EP and it's cool they put it out there. But, I also totally see why these songs were not included on Hell's Pit. He'lls Pit is very tight and on-point with the Hell imagery and none of these songs on Hell's Cellar feel like they'd really fit anywhere. 

July 21, 2018
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Karacalla said

I Don't understand why my question would garner this response, but what the hell Noah, i'll bite.

What makes me new here, since I've been on board, literally, since 2014?   

Itwas a joke because lucem is pretty well known for not gathering / being a Juggalo

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

July 21, 2018
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Black magic, this wickedry!
I love to let it get a grip on me!
 

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July 21, 2018
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Karacalla said

Damn, I did not know that, thanks.

Chino XL is a rappers rapper though, In one freestyle, yes a freestyle, he destroyed 2pac live on air in the middle of their beef.

For 2 minutes, get it, 2...Minutes the man picked 'em apart.

2pac personally called him and squashed all beef, which is rare. I love ICP, but lets keep it real. They would have got eating alive.

THE FUN STARTS AT THE 2 MINUTE MARK.

  

I've mentioned on here many times in the past how much I like Chino XL. His freestyles are flat out amazing.

He had some rhyme about a double-jointed nurse bent over backwards delivering her own baby that is jaw dropping upon first listen. He is also goddamned funny. His delivery and voice make something like "I guess your best wasnt good enough, like the Knicks!" comedy gold. 

He is a beast. However, another lazy, misinformed rapper about his targets. Perhaps he just wanted a quick rhyme. 

July 21, 2018
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ive seen chino live. wasnt impressed..

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July 21, 2018
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I wasn't going to participate, I just wanted to know if I could and rub it Noah's face.

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July 21, 2018
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This album is fantastic! It exceeded my expectations. Big Bad Wolf may have been recorded for Wizard of the Hood or slightly after.

For anyone that bought a copy, what does the booklet look like? Are there liner notes or is it just a few pictures?

Makes me realize that there is likely more music in the vault that is worth hearing.

July 21, 2018
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Hells cellar will be on Psy Merch Wednesday according to the seminar.

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July 21, 2018
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J said at the seminar that there's an additional 3 songs they found from these sessions but they're saving them to put out for the Hell's Pit 20th anniversary. 

July 21, 2018
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Happy I dont have to buy it from ebay for 100 dollars....I can just buy it from psymerch for 10 to 20 bucks.

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July 22, 2018
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Mikael Mierz said
Happy I dont have to buy it from ebay for 100 dollars....I can just buy it from psymerch for 10 to 20 bucks.  

 Willaby Rags Magical Bag of Poop exclusive seminar cd, I have three copies and two of those will be auctioned off in place of the Hell's Cellar cd's I originally announced. Psy is going to sell them and J skipped the autographs, so I'm canceling the NOAH action, and replacing it with this new one. To the regulars, you know whats up. Check your PM'S Monday. I'm starting the bids off at a $65 minimum on these, good luck. Hey NOAH FENCE, Even when I loose I still win, Shmuck, lol! 

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July 22, 2018
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This is the beat they used for Spontaneous Combust.

Interesting that they used a Mike E. Clark beat, since they weren't fucking with each other during the Wraith era. Makes me wonder whether there are other beats on the Wraith albums that are actually MEC beats as well. Kinda like Otis claimed Tell These Bitches was his beat, but they credited DJ Clay for it.

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