Pigg said

They should have bought stock in Faygo. Haha  

True they coulda bought in at $1.37 a share in '96 $13,700 investment would have been worth 1.24 million dollars sept 2017. 

BillBurr said
Icp/twiztid can push merch & do things like icp's livestreams, but the rest of these MF have jobs, sell drugs, or live with their parents.

Otis performed his latest PPV set from a room in his dad's house, so at least he doesn't have to worry about paying rent...

BillBurr said
I can't imagine what twiztid has to gain from signing all these artists. If you have a theory, I'd love to hear it.

It's more fun to mob with a squad while on tour.

In reality these artists are signing with MNE which is run by George V. There is obviously some trust there from these young up-and-comers that George has their best interests in mind and is going to try and blow them up as best he can.

The best Gathering lineups happened when George was doing the booking for PSY, up until 2012 before Jumpsteady took over. No one has ever said a bad word about the guy, even ICP still give him props and say he's a nice dude.

Also Violent J has alluded that George V comes from a wealthy family and that is why all these artists want to roll with MNE...

Twiztid definitely has a say in what's going on but Monoxide has admitted he gets into heated debates with George over merch, release dates and other stuff.

LARS was paid over 10 grand for the albums they put out on MNE. They weren't supposed to be signed long term, it was a move MNE made early on to help build the catalog, Mono later revealed the albums didn't make any money.....

G MO was pissed they spent around 10 thousand to make his first video for Chali and the Filth Factory, because they made it part of his budget that he had to recoup. G MO wanted them to only spend a thousand bucks on the video, basically admitting that he wanted to go super cheap even though he signed on with a major underground label that has distribution and has got his cds into stores. That led to a bunch of bad blood and G MO quitting the label......

Gorilla Voltage didn't sell and one of them(Clockworc) was a dick to work with. They broke up and went their separate ways after barely being a rap group for a few years. Clockworc used to be Kung Fu Vampire's merch dude....

He's doing one of them UGHH mixtapes

Chevy2Dope said
So his Hoodoo actually doing anything with Twiztid or is this another completely made up thing by KuKluxKlown who somehow hasn't been banned yet?   

There may be something fishy going on behind the scenes with Twiztid poaching already produced works and hocking them for a cheap profit because the artists that have thrown hissy fits and left need a window to advertise them and sell them.

They probably have already produced unreleased material that Psy hasn't cataloged.

It's possible their contracts aren't air tight, despite J explaining time and time again that it's never wise to let go of Masters.

However, we do see artists leaving the label, sometimes momentarily, sometimes for good, with material they later put out as having been worked on while at Psychopathic.

So either these artists are paying for these Masters (I can't imagine Psy allowing that in many cases) or their contracts aren't as iron clad as they should be (which is also odd, giving the rumors around the labels supposed obsession with control).

I mean Blaze left and put out another rendition or Gang Ragz, but that one was probably some sort of leased Masters deal.

Boondox later released some stuff off label, as had other artists.

I think as soon as their cut-cost method of acquiring music expires, we'll see some of these artists drift off.

I don't even think it's directly that they're trying to piss off J (but it's very likely Mono is chuckling about it, but in an really disturbing, wet-eyed way), but instead they (MNE) have to justify their Sub Label contract with InGooves, their Parent Company.

If rumors are true, Twiztid sold the idea of MNE being a Sub Label of InGrooves by claiming an already-baked in fanbase (juggalos, horrorcore fans, alternative music fans) [while also promising they could distance themselves from the negative press Juggalos sometimes receive], and in order to keep their Sub Label looking viable, they have to hock something.

Then in comes Mono planting seeds of discontent @ Psychopathic, trying to pull over artists to work for peanuts under some guise of revenge and being backed by a Major Label (so more money). They even release other artists videos on their YouTube Band page instead of just a MNE page. That's part of trauma-bonding manipulation. Snakes "love bomb" you and then shame you. This back and forth is how they control people to make them feel like they, the target, are unstable, and "need" the abuser, and that everyone else is the "real" enemy. That's how MNE is doing this shit.

Young Wicked claims he can afford things now, but that's not reflected in his Instagram posts. AMB were on probationary contracts anyway because Psy is independant; they probably DID get bonuses for switching to InGrooves. That shit runs out though... eventually.

The real problem is that InGrooves isn't going allow this process to go on for long, and they'll probably just keep the Label of MNE permanently for the Masters and back sales sake.

I'm sure by 2025-2027 we'll hear Twiztid making claims of being old and going into retirement, with boasting in 2026 that they people said they were going to retire or fail and they're still around. Then: poof.