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ICP's top 10 songs on Youtube
November 8, 2018
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I thought this was an interesting topic.. the most viewed songs/videos on youtube

1. Miracles “Bang Pow Boom”

2. Hokus Pokus “The Great Melinko”

3. Juggalo Island “Bang Pow Boom”

4. Booge Woogie Wu “The Great Melinko”

5. What Is A Juggalo “The Great Melinko”

6. Lets Go All The Way “Bizzar”

7. Tilt A Whirl “Bizaar”

8. Halls of Illusions “The Great Melinko”

9. The Neden Game “The Great Melinko”

10. 6 Foot 7 Foot “Hurricane Of Diamonds”

 

i think it’s safe to say ICP are still on top of their game considering a song that came out last year is already in the top 10.. competing against their platinum songs.. I’m surprised Jeckel Bros. aint even in the top 20..

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November 8, 2018
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also, the most viewed past psy artist seem to be..

 

Twiztid

Boondox

Anybody Killa

Esham

Blaze Ya Dead Homie

Axe Murder Boyz

November 8, 2018
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ESHAM SLAUGHTERS EVERYONE

November 8, 2018
4:27 pm
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he’s up there with ICP to me..

I’ve always felt like he was crazy slept on, if not thee most slept on..

November 8, 2018
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Esham slaughtered everyone till about 1997

November 8, 2018
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chops said
Esham slaughtered everyone till about 1997  

PLEASE EXPLAIN?

 

I THINK ESHAM IS SO FAR AHEAD OF EVERYBODY

MOST ARENT ENLIGHTENED ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND

BUT IM INTERESTED..

LETS HEAR YOUR CASE………….

November 8, 2018
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Warlock, whered you get the list from? Just wondering

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November 8, 2018
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Drunkalo said
Warlock, whered you get the list from? Just wondering  

i searched icp on youtube and filtered the “sort by” view count.. i didnt calculate each repeated song but this is still a great and very accurate representation of the most listened to songs over the past several years..

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November 8, 2018
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Don’t get me wrong, I love eshams music. I have his whole discography on CD. I just feel like after 96-97 he started to fall off a little. He still released decent music like tongues/www.com but for the most part his music went downhill. I could say the same about icp after 1999. 

November 8, 2018
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chops said
Don’t get me wrong, I love eshams music. I have his whole discography on CD. I just feel like after 96-97 he started to fall off a little. He still released decent music like tongues/www.com but for the most part his music went downhill. I could say the same about icp after 1999.   

What was your turning point? I know nothing of esham but with The Clowns it was between Jeckel brothers and The Wraith.

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November 8, 2018
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i dont really like the 97 album, bruce wayne…

asides from that 06-10 was kinda a low point in his career..

for ICP 02-05 were kinda low to me.. even though i consider that esham era, the last golden era of psychopathic

November 8, 2018
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For icp it was bizaar bizzar when it started to change for me. Those albums still had the icp sound of the 90’s but it felt like it was missing something. To me riddlebox through ajb had a certain sound from both mec and icp. B/B still had that polish but it was starting to change. After B/B the music and vocals were 100% different from the previous releases. Of course during B/B recording sessions is when violent j and mec started to not get along in the studio. Violent j said himself he no longer enjoyed working with mike and you can tell on those albums. Also the fact that they released 2 albums the same day instead of doing lotus or the sixth was odd at the time. I don’t know it was the turning point for me. I still enjoy the majority of the music after 2000, it just has a different vibe than the stuff before it. 

As for esham, he changed a lot after 1995. I feel like doubelivengod was the last true wicket shit album from him. Dead flowers is damn good but it’s way different than his previous work. Bruce Wayne was basically no different than any rappers album of that time frame. Hustling, flossing and pussy. It’s still a good album just not wicket shit. Of course his brother got locked up in 96 so it’s no coincidence esham changed. I’m sure that had a huge effect on him mentally. 

November 8, 2018
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One of my first posts here and one that im standing by was stating that ICP’s 6th jokers card of the second deck will feature back up vocals by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Is it because of the more positive vibe that theyve been giving off, that their losing your votes? They’ve never been “horrorcore” from my stand point.

From what i heard Esham is someone they looked up to when they were up and coming.

Then from my understanding they became bigger and took Him under their wing.

They became more famous.

Please correct me if im wrong. Maybe im biased because im more a fan of ICP than Esham.

Warlock, give us a youtube breakdown of Esham compared to ICP, since thats the way the topic has turned. 

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November 8, 2018
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chops said
For icp it was bizaar bizzar when it started to change for me. Those albums still had the icp sound of the 90’s but it felt like it was missing something. To me riddlebox through ajb had a certain sound from both mec and icp. B/B still had that polish but it was starting to change. After B/B the music and vocals were 100% different from the previous releases. Of course during B/B recording sessions is when violent j and mec started to not get along in the studio. Violent j said himself he no longer enjoyed working with mike and you can tell on those albums. Also the fact that they released 2 albums the same day instead of doing lotus or the sixth was odd at the time. I don’t know it was the turning point for me. I still enjoy the majority of the music after 2000, it just has a different vibe than the stuff before it.

to me, bizaar is up there with their best work..  bizzar was definitely a change of pace and more “bizarre”..

November 8, 2018
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Icp and psychopathic copied esham and RLP from the beginning. They had a falling out in 93 and did not work together again until 2000(besides esham’s skit on mutilation mix). In late 96 or early 97 violent j ran into esham in Detroit and took a bunch of eshams albums to the record label A&R’s but they all passed saying he made devil music. Then in 1999 esham started hanging with icp again and was going to sign with psychopathic to release tongues and be a member of dark Lotus. That fell through esham dissed J on tongues(2001) icp dissed esham on cartoon nightmares. Natas showed up to Big Ballas in December 2001 squashed the beef. Esham signed with psychopathic in 2002 causing bad blood between E and mastamind who had a new natas album(godlike) that got no exposure or promotion because esham was busy working with icp. That’s the relationship in a nutshell. My memories foggy but that’s the basic history. 

Violent j always tried to help esham but went about it the wrong way. Psychopathic gave him a horrible offer in 2000. When he finally did sign in 2002 they put in the contract that he could not be referred to as the unholy by anyone or himself, they didn’t want to work with TNT or mastamind. When repentance started getting radio play and exposure in 2003 violent j got jealous when esham was invited to some awards show thing and stopped all promotions for the album and removed him from the upcoming wicked wonka tour. Esham was always quick to turn his back on icp and shit talk them. It’s a weird relationship. 

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November 8, 2018
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I got ya, i think. Sorry to interrupt

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November 8, 2018
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I started to listen to icp in 97 and became obsessed. Every bit of knowledge I could find about their history, producers, tours, similar artists, whatever I absorbed and memorized. Its so much shit it starts to jumble together. I enjoy reminiscing about it all. 

Becoming a juggalo in 97, by the time ajb was released I had been listening to everything from 92-98 on constant repeat and listened to no other music for the most part. So when Bizaar Bizzar came out it was a big change to me. Like I said it still had the magic that psychopathic releases had prior but it wasn’t a sideshow ep and it wasn’t a jokers card. I still think it should’ve just been a sideshow ep called the “bizarre bazaar” and could have been about a creepy shop in the dark Carnival in the same vein as Terror wheel and tunnel of love. The first album released on psychopathic that sounded completely different and lacked that mec polish was freekshow. I did not like that album first listen and I loved mostasteless. Anyway I’m rambling about bullshit 

November 8, 2018
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It took me a long time to become obsessed. ICP has come in and out of my life at many up and down points. It took me a while but I know the first 6 for sure. My first concert was BPB and i slowly wanted to fill in the blanks. After joining you all ive been trying to learn and catch up on so much its becoming a little overwhelming. Thanks for the input man, really.

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November 8, 2018
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chops said    
Becoming a juggalo in 97, by the time ajb was released I had been listening to everything from 92-98 on constant repeat and listened to no other music for the most part. So when Bizaar Bizzar came out it was a big change to me. Like I said it still had the magic that psychopathic releases had prior but it wasn’t a sideshow ep and it wasn’t a jokers card. I still think it should’ve just been a sideshow ep called the “bizarre bazaar” and could have been about a creepy shop in the dark Carnival in the same vein as Terror wheel and tunnel of love.    

coulda been worse.  

imagine if theyd gone with the ‘HICMIC / ESOMN’ idea instead…  brrr.  

  

pick any moment from icps career, jump ahead a few years, theres gonna be a big shift in the sound.  it only seemed like a big jump at that particular time cuz youd only been analyzing it for a [relatively] short while.  i thought that jeckel brothers was a jarring shift, but quickly got used to it, so much that by the time the sixth dropped, i was half-expecting it to be another big change.   which it was.  

really the whole icp/psy discography is them serially dabbling in one new style or another.  

same for esham, generally.  and thats mostly deliberate on their part, im sure.  

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November 8, 2018
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Shaggy hasnt seemed to have changed much, he knows his role, hes comfortable with his role. J keeps trying new styles. I could see FFF being a chopper style shift for VJ. Its been more prominent since Lyte started.

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