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Juggalos Fight ICP's Creativity Instead of FBI
January 24, 2013
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January 24, 2013
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I'm not fighting anyone. I'm only in it for the music and I'm gonna like what I like and support who I want. Blaming the fans for not blindly supporting everything is a cop out.

January 24, 2013
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Oooohhhhh yea let me tell ya..... Complete horse shit from this dude like you say yay yay i too am only wit it if i feel it n im not sorrrryyy..... Cuz who reached out to whom, well j of course n their big brainstorm wuz to release a album wit psy beats n such n just rap ova them ? Fuck that for one i really love the original assassin's by geto boys n when i got ajb n heard the the joint they did i wuz like hell yea but now years later n big hutch wanna use it n now he's the psy assassin hell to the muthafuckn naw...... Its like the raps are fuckn gimmicky when he spit on the beats n all of a sudden cold 187 is this transformed juggalo/artist n we should be swingn off his nutz cuz j had the bright idea to bring him on really i mean really all that fool wuz thinkn is this clown is gonna put me on n give me money just to rap over some used recycled beats hell ok pay me im a whore a washed up rapper still lookn to get my meals..... Sorry but as the old mpdo goes wit neew artist or has beens on psy it wuz good while it lasted or shoulda never happened in the first place!!!!! I applaud j for wanting to be nastalgic n shit, but at wut cost fool?

January 24, 2013
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it all started with ABK then it lead to Zug island and just went down the line

 

we all put our faith in anything psychopathic put out

 

cuz from the moment twiztid came out with mostasteless they really delivered, then it went to freek show and twiztid was on their own feet on the hatchet.

 

it seems like after blaze psychopathic got carried away with new artists that would contribute some good material but not strong enough to be on icp, twiztid and blaze's level. hatchet warrior was good but had lots of misses in it and everything from then on just got iffy.

 

we all bought the albums 2 support our love for the label and their product, but its gotten out of hand with AMB, big hutch and cold187.

 

i look at my cd collection and see zug island and the 2nd abk cd and i just cant believe i was suckered into purchasing them.

im very proud to have alot of ICP cds but the last one i purchased was hells pit and that was a major let down for me, it wasnt even close 2 be as good or wicked as dark lotus tales from the lotus aka the wickedest album in history

January 24, 2013
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i feel like juggalo sites are being monitored like terrorist sites now becuz of the lawsuit pending. icp cant really deny the juggalos out there creating gangs and doing crimes. J should just talk shit on those idiots like he used to do....this whole "family" shit is giving people an excuse to say that we are all one in the same.....

 

i been listening to psychopathic and acid rap music for over 13 years and i havent commited any crimes other than buying abks 2nd album and zug island and i regret that. alot of new fans have a bad understanding of wat being a juggalo is. just be yourself. stop dressin like madrox and monoxide, they aint even psychopathic anymore.

 

stop creating gangs using juggalo terms like joker card names and stuff u just look stupid anyways. icp is a gimmick, its fun, they are 2 serial killer clowns on "cd"!!!! not real life....J dont go 2 the grocery store wearin face paint and merch from head 2 toe. some of these kids should get their ass kicked for tryin to be hard cuz they think juggalos are an army. its just music, bottom line.

 

i dont even like typing the letters FBI online cuz i feel like you get monitored...this lawsuit is just gonna make things worse as far as juggalos becoming targets.

 

i was told to take off my hatchet man shirt back in 1999 at my middleschool cuz columbine happened, i didnt bitch and moan, i respected their decision and didnt wanna look like i was a crazy kid who would do something at skool, i just loved the music and wanted the TRL kids to see that i thought their music was gay and i loved that wicked shit like twiztid.

 

i actually got stopped in the hallway by two kids in my grade who started quizzing me on my favorite joker cards which i replied ringmaster and milenko and they approved me as a real juggalo lol that was the 90s for ya, just being a true fan of the music. i became friends with them, we listened to the music, we smoked some pot and just were average teenagers. i didnt dress like i was part of the label, some kids are just stupid with it. and ive never whooped whooped in my 13 years of being a juggalo

January 24, 2013
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if any ninja, back in the day or otherwise, had presumed to pass judgment on my juggaloness, id have shut them down. 

if they had a problem with that, id have floored them. 

in my case, school was a distant memory by the time icp blew up, but i certainly wouldnt have taken any shit from them about it.  but then, i had the principal under my thumb for most of high school, he wouldnt have dared. 

didnt watch the video, because theyre generally boring as fuck.  however...

i dont fight icps creativity, since i know that they, the artists, can create whatever the hell they want.  i, the consumer, can give them money for it, if i want. 

i dont exactly fight the feds, but i do resist them, just like any law enforcement, because i believe that they should not be allowed to dictate terms to us, the public. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 24, 2013
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i wish more fans would keep it real and not purchase some of these bad products coming out of the hatchet,

 

i have to admit when twiztid announced "abominationz" i thought...o great here we go with another mans mutant cd or independants day and didnt really have an expectation...

 

but holy shit!!!!

twiztid went above and beyond on their new cd. i was suprised to see how good it was and to see the whole juggalo community stand behind a product.

its so weird this is one of twiztids highest praised works since freekshow, its gettin more love than "the green book" and i used to think that cd was third inline behind freekshow and mostasteless, but abominationz is getting up there,

 

its twiztids best work in years and they aint here anymore for videos or anything psychopathic used to do for them...all we have is a cd thats amazing, no promos, no music vids, its all bittersweet. theres just a tension in the air right now, we dont know anything about them leaving..

January 25, 2013
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I don't purchase the bad products from the hatchet such as amb or boondox but I did buy Zug and ABK which both artists I do enjoy...but then again it is all a matter of opinion....

January 25, 2013
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LBC Juggalo said:

i have to admit when twiztid announced "abominationz" i thought...o great here we go with another mans mutant cd or independants day and didnt really have an expectation...

 

what made you think that??

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January 25, 2013
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My name rusty. Rusty shackleford and this guy has more talent than icp now a days I'm not promoting him or pluging him but miss the old icp just saying

January 25, 2013
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I agree with this video.  Here is the way I see it, Juggalos have always really embraced new artist (Blaze, ABK, Twiztid) or really hated on new artists (Cold 187um, Zug, AMB).  With that being said I applaud ICP and Violent J for trying new things.  There are a lot of us that grew up on West Coast Hip Hop and have waited a long time for that true West Coast flavor on the label.  I personaly have heard Cold 187um's album and have no problem with it.  I think it is refreshing to see what he did with well known beats, will it get over with younger fans who may not know his history or care about West Coast rap, probably not.  I do think ICP has fallen off as a whole.  BPB and MDP were ok but not up to the standard of say Milenko or Riddlebox.

Now Twiztid on the other hand has put out some amazing work with W.I.C.K.E.D., H & H, and Abominationz.  Even when Twiztid has gone away from the Mostasteless sound they have done really solid albums.  I have thought for a long time that the students passed the masters on the label long ago. 

I think PSychopathic needs new young blood to rejuvenate the label and I don't think relying on classic artists they grew up with is going to work.  I can't wait to see what ICP and Psychopathic is going to do.  But I am more excited to see what Twiztid is doing and where they are going now that they have freedom to do anything they want.

 

I listen to music because I like it.  I don't care who it is.  That is one reason I enjoy working here at Faygoluvers doing CD reviews, cause get to hear new artists all the time.

 

Anyway thats my two cents.

 

MMFWFL,

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January 25, 2013
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rustyshackleford said:

this guy has more talent than icp now a days

 

really??? are u retarded???confused

 

rustyshackleford said:

 

I'm not promoting him or pluging him

 

yes u are and thats probably u

 

rustyshackleford said:

but miss the old icp just saying

 

then put in tha old icp cd's and bump it .. tha old days are done and gone and never coming back

 

January 25, 2013
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No no no lol that's not me I was just fucking around and being like most idiot trolls on here u probably even though I was the real rusty shackleford too lmao look I love icp been listening since riddlebox and got nothing but respect for them

January 25, 2013
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And ps if the old days are gone then why in the fuck are they doing a riddlebox show lmao

January 25, 2013
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rustyshackleford said:

No no no lol that's not me I was just fucking around and being like most idiot trolls on here u probably even though I was the real rusty shackleford too lmao look I love icp been listening since riddlebox and got nothing but respect for them

nope just figured u were another troll idiot that post stupid shit up here

January 25, 2013
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rustyshackleford said:

And ps if the old days are gone then why in the fuck are they doing a riddlebox show lmao

to make money  but its only one show it aint like there doing a tour and i highly doubt any of there new music will sound like tha old days just sayin

 

and main point about it is it gets old when all ppl keep saying is bring back tha old icp and we want tha wicked shit from coc 2 jeckel bros. or u havent like a cd since jeckel bros. but yet its 14 yrs later and there still here talking about new icp it dont make since to me

 

and to be real yeah there new music isnt as good as tha old days but

there new music is good for what it is and there isnt no way to compare the old to new to me its a different sound completely  same topics just different sound

and on a final note if ppl havent like what they have put out since jeckel bros or the wraith then why u still listen after so long of not liking them

January 25, 2013
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rustyshackleford said:

 u probably even though I was the real rusty shackleford too lmao

 

nope didnt even know who rusty shackleford was until i looked it up never watched king of the hill

January 25, 2013
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Well your missing out man lol king of the Hill is the shit just sayn and I agree but think about icp knows what we want finally after god knows how long we want the wicked shit hence the riddlebox show so they can make money of course who doesn't like money and the icp cd I was dissapointed about was tempest not because the sound because I was suppost to a storm not a god damn roller coaster

January 25, 2013
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I also agree that the sound is always changing there is not one joker card that sounds like the next I remember being at a party and some idiot guy was like I like riddlebox and milenko what happened to them sounding like that and I said those two albums are completely different from each other I think there is not one joker card that sounds the same not one at all and it makes me pissed to man I understand we all love that wicked shit and yea they would have been boring if they sounded like them two albums there whole career

January 25, 2013
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rustyshackleford said:

 I understand we all love that wicked shit and yea they would have been boring if they sounded like them two albums there whole career

 

agree 100 percent

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