rustyshackleford said:

Well your missing out man lol king of the Hill is the shit just sayn and I agree but think about icp knows what we want finally after god knows how long we want the wicked shit hence the riddlebox show so they can make money of course who doesn't like money and the icp cd I was dissapointed about was tempest not because the sound because I was suppost to a storm not a god damn roller coaster………………………what difference does it make if it was a storm or a roller coaster?Go listen again,imo its both a storm and coaster…peep it homie..

scruffy said:

only track on the tempest i dont like is watch my ride.  the rest, good stuff. 

yeah that track & whats happening now are the only 2 i didnt like at 1st but slam tv helped them grow on me...

when mike clark first left it was unspeakable at the time cuz of the catalog being so strong with his involvement. mike p had a lot of pressure to overcome and he delivered with "one less g" and "shangri la"..he even made abk have a decent album with "hatchet warrior" and thats a hard thing to do....J seemed energized with mike p being a new producer. mike clark came back and he just monopolizes entire albums with only his beats and since his return the magic isnt there and we all expected wat we got from him in the past. he was gone for so long his beats changed during that time. dark lotus came out way better with mike p and fritz finishing the record. things were fine with mike p and it was a new era and the music was still good. now its just corny and too happy for most juggalos.

Fucking exactly everything was fine with Mike p, but just like everything icp got greedy and he left.

I think this needs to be fully in the open, icp are too goddamn greedy, why has EVERY SINGLE artist left?
Them holding out on Money, mec, esham, mike p, boondox, abk and now twiztid.
I think it's obvious, they're shady businessman, alot ppl don't even show up to gatherings cuz the money ain't right.

dilutid said:

I think this needs to be fully in the open, icp are too goddamn greedy, why has EVERY SINGLE artist left?
Them holding out on Money, mec, esham, mike p, boondox, abk and now twiztid.
I think it's obvious, they're shady businessman, alot ppl don't even show up to gatherings cuz the money ain't right.

I've pondered this myself.. as much as I want them to be these funny cool dudes who care somewhat about their fans.. I really wouldn't doubt it if they were just shady business men. Sometimes though when I think about it long enough, Violent J is just too goddamn silly to be some sinister sneaky rich dude rubbing his hands together in golden jelly and diamonds sneering "YESsssSSsss YesSssssS... dis iz how we shall take that cash muneyyy".

Hopefully that speculation of greed and shady business tactics are more behind the scenes.. like the CEO or some kind of business party running things on the DL.

Idk.. between the rumors.. Boondox twitter posts.. Twiztid leaving.. the cheap videos and marketing schemes lately.. who knows for sure?

At the end of the day, all i care about is fun, creative, entertaining music I can bump and daydream about to make my silly little monkey tool life better.