In general, people need to leave the big horror icons alone. Freddy, Michael, Jason, Leatherface… they’ve been used way too much to try to sound scary on a track. Chucky even has his Bushwick Bill song.

Maybe go for more obscure monsters. Even Pinhead and the Cenobites, Candyman, and such are a step in the right direction. But more obscure, far more. 

I was delighted when Blaze shouted out Randall Flagg of The Stand. I wonder if he wrote that rhyme or did Madrox.

But yeah, no more horror icons. It’s lazy.

4 Those of U by Twiztid. That fucking hook. I’m convinced it’s the worst hook in the history of rap. My God what an ear sore.

Also I know I’m not alone on this one but that “bam bam bam, bam bam bam bam” J does on They Shootin’. Just annoying.

I’ll be back when I think of more.

T.O. said
Violent J’s verse on Maniac Killa. That song was one of the earliest songs I would just listen to multiple times throughout the day when I first got into Psychopathic heavy. It’s still one of my favorites. The thing is, I downloaded it from one of those P2P file sharing programs that were around back in the day. J’s verse was cut out though (as was the intro with Vampiro). It was just credited as Twiztid feat. Blaze & Shaggy.. I loved the song front to back. Then I got the album, like a year later, and found out J was on there, which I never knew! So I was like “why the fuck would they cut out J’s verse?”.. Needless to say, I quickly understood.

It just ruins the flow. It’s such an aggressive hard hitting song but then J comes in and does this weird singing intermission. It’s like commercials in a movie. You get annoyed when they come on and then you just wait until it’s finally over so you can get back to the awesome movie you are watching. I still keep a version of the song with J’s vocals cut out.  

Yeah I can see why some people think J’s part is wack. To me I look at it like a bridge (or breakdown) in a rock song where there’s a change in the song. I think J was just trying to play a part of a different type of “maniac” than the rest of the guys are in the song. It’s definitely a “what the fuck?” moment but I think it works for what the song is. That’s just me though, again, totally get why others don’t like that part. 

Shaggy’s yodel at the beginning of his verse on She Was. Granted he has alotta bad parts on that album but that one I remember disliking immediately and has never grown on me.

Also when J says something along the lines of “Suck my Twinkie” on Murder Go Round.

dood said
Granted he has alotta bad parts on that album but that one

Speaking of that album, the cover is kinda ruined for me as well. I never noticed how distorted the hand was on there. that fat pinky and the extremely skinny index finger. seriously just noticed it last year or so. weird creative decision. Part of me kinda likes it because it looks weird and a little morbid, but I can’t take it serious really, because it also looks pretty stupid and it makes the fingers truly look like wiener sausages.

I suppose it’s the water that’s distorting it but that doesn’t make it any less wiener-sausagey-looking

scruffy said
makes me wonder if the track came off one of my mix cds.  when bizbiz and freekshow were new, while i was pickin out the various tracks i was gonna be bumpin for the rest of time, one of the first things i did was clip j outta maniac killa.  big improvement.  

thats my standard policy for any song thats dope notwithstanding a wack verse.  just chop it out.  [this goes for the lions share of skits and other bumper material, too]  

hell, verse doesnt even have to be wack;  evil sounds better without abk, the dirtball sounds better without twiztid.  et cetera. 

possibly! must have been around 2007/2008.

Sometimes I even cut out everything except for that one verse. Usually when it’s an artist I like whose featured on someones track who I can’t stand. For example, this totally unknown german rapper did a collabo album with the one and only Ganxsta NIP. the dude’s horrible though. but I actually like NIP over his beats, mostly. So I cut out all of NIP’s verses and just kept those.

For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLV101dBlA8

Somehow this is even produced by E-Moe from Siccmade.

Another example is Shaggy’s verse on Kickin’ Kickin’. I can’t stand the song. Hate the hook, hate the beat, hate J’s parts. But man, Shaggy’s verse is one of his best when it comes to flow. And it made me like the beat too! But only for as long as he’s rapping, once the hook kicks in, I start disliking it again.

Scruffy I agree about Cnt. Another bad song/hook. Also i remember thinking how much better Dirty Lil Girl would’ve been if they had laid down actual raps in the verses and not that lame singing or whatever it is.

Since i seem to be shitting on everything on Mirror Mirror i guess i better mention how awesome The World is. Still one of their top 5 songs IMO.

scruffy said

im really only just now realizing how much i have always overrated it…  used to say, often, that if every twiztid album was like mirror mirror times two, id be happy.  

definitely agree about the world.  required reading.  they should play it at every show.  well, not really, but ya know.  

  

Noah Fence said   
My biggest beef with a verse is when the krayshawn remix of when I’m clownin comes on and i don’t notice until she starts in. Because i use spotify i can’t just delete the song. And she just ruins everything. It’s not even that great a song to begin with.     

thats what you get for not being responsible for your own music.  

spotifys and pandoras…  all this rah rah over the years about how radio sucks [and holy shit, does it ever], and people are still depending on what the dj wants you to hear.  even if the dj is a robot.    

Using spotify allows me to keep room on my phone for video work I’m doing. Until a friend offered me access to their premium,  i kept all my music in my phone and honestly I prefer spotify. I can (and usually do) listen to my own playlists or full albums but I’ll occasionally make a radio station out of a song and let it give me random stuff. 

With random stuff, i get to hear stuff i can’t hear if i don’t seek it out. New stuff and weird stuff.