GWAR without Oderus isn’t GWAR. Also, the no jumper guy is a boring moron. No wonder so many boring morons like him. 

Wait isn't dressing like Viking aliens cultural appropriation?

Noah Fence said

No, it isn't. 

Also, I'm not saying someone can't do anything. Just that sometimes doing something is harmful to the people you allegedly "appreciate".   

ICP are a white owned rap label hiring a majority of white people. It's kind of appropriation and kind of harmful when you think about the biggest hurdle of black culture being that they had to compete with already established white businesses that work against them from ground zero and then get their culture taken by people that prophet off of it with out giving back.

How ever, morality isn't simple so I don't really hold ICP to anything because I know their intent isn't to harm anybody and they're just trying to compete in a system that inherently builds people to be selfish and apathetic to get by. Not even selfish because I don't think they really think about it like that and ICP always seems to give back to their community.

What I think of, though, as REAL problematic cultural appropriation is when culture gets stolen so hard that people forget or re-attribute a culture. Like how rock music was appropriated from black culture to the point where it's no longer seen as black culture despite it's roots and many many many pieces of rock culture are filled with white supremacy and racism.

Living in America, what's supposed to be the melting pot of culture, we should be sharing cultures and appreciating each other with out the worry of what race makes a art that comes from another race. It's a shared experience for all people no matter the race. It's when people forget the roots of an art form and have no respect for it is when I have a problem.

King Lucem Ferre said

ICP are a white owned rap label hiring a majority of white people. It's kind of appropriation and kind of harmful when you think about the biggest hurdle of black culture being that they had to compete with already established white businesses that work against them from ground zero and then get their culture taken by people that prophet off of it with out giving back.

How ever, morality isn't simple so I don't really hold ICP to anything because I know their intent isn't to harm anybody and they're just trying to compete in a system that inherently builds people to be selfish and apathetic to get by. Not even selfish because I don't think they really think about it like that and ICP always seems to give back to their community.

What I think of, though, as REAL problematic cultural appropriation is when culture gets stolen so hard that people forget or re-attribute a culture. Like how rock music was appropriated from black culture to the point where it's no longer seen as black culture despite it's roots and many many many pieces of rock culture are filled with white supremacy and racism.

Living in America, what's supposed to be the melting pot of culture, we should be sharing cultures and appreciating each other with out the worry of what race makes a art that comes from another race. It's a shared experience for all people no matter the race. It's when people forget the roots of an art form and have no respect for it is when I have a problem.  

Lol I told this new guy at my work, originally from Nebraska, who is quite sheltered... when I told him that Insane Clown Posse regularly give out turkeys and food for parts of Michigan every Thanksgiving, he was in awe. He was truly stunned that they did that. 

King Lucem Ferre said

JuggaloJ said

Pigg said
How do you determine what is perfectly morally correct?  

In the context of this conversation or in general?
In general it has to do with the principle of harm.

I will always believe that morality is always harm vs. help and that it's never simple because human suffering isn't that simple.

How ever, despite agreeing with and appreciating your stance against Trump supporters especially with you being a Republican that hates Trump, if I ever saw you or any of your friends trying to attack Krunk or Psyral in anyway just for supporting Trump I'd take their side and physically defend them from any attack.  

I went to The Gathering this year. I was posting all up in the forum while there. At the end of the day I’m at The Gathering to have fun, not get kicked out on some dumb shit. Back in the day at Hog Rock it was literal anarchy and no enforcement of any kind.

One time by boy was legit Timberland stomping dude laid out on the ground and Blaze drove by on his golf cart and almost stopped like he was gonna try to intervene, we just told him “keep in moving man, nothing to see here” and he did just that! Hahaha!!!

wow this tread got real interesting 

I feel like If anyone was beating you down I would have your back because were Juggalos and on this horrible forum

I can shit on you but an outsider can't

I would even protect Robbie Tidwell because as much as I don't agree with him I feel like I know him "un petis peu"and only I can shit on his views not some outsider phishead..

political views left or right are secondary

besides if you don't have a left and right leg you cant walk and if you want walk your left behind

JuggaloJ said

King Lucem Ferre said

Now I need to know why dude was getting stomped, LOL.  

Long story. My one boy fell asleep in a camping chair at my campsite (he was camping at another site) and got robbed. Everyone at my campsite was the homies except this one dude, which we (fairly I think) assumed it was him. So the next morning we confronted dude, he got slapped up, and that coulda been it if he’d played his cards right...

But later when he saw me out walking without my homies he wanted to get tough all a sudden. He was a bit older/bigger then me, I assume he thought he’d chump me and be able to redeem himself for getting chumped earlier that day.

Well I ain’t no punk, so we thru down...I actually started the fight by smacking dude dead in the face with a full can of beer, baseball pitch style, at point black range (was pretty sweet) then the resulting fight was about a tie if I’m just being real. A noble “tie” considering I was 19 at the time and dude was mid-20s with like 100 pounds on me. 

Well afterwards I saw my homies and told them the story. My one boy, who is a fuckin monster -no joke- was like “that’s it”...we went to our campsite and dude was there and my boy took care of business, the aforementioned stomp-out was the result...then we threw his tent and belongings in a bonfire and he had a super awkward ride home with our peoples (I assume) lmao

So yea...he “allegedly” stole shit...and then proceeded to exacerbate his embarrassment and suffering by not knowing when to just take a goddamn L

I still see dude in passing at The Gathering some years, but he don’t say shiiiiit lol  

So you and your homies beat up a dude that you think stole from you.

That's some fake phony self righteous bullshit if I ever heard it. No offense.

Like, fuck proof, lets just pick a target and blame him then proceed to assault him and destroy his stuff. Lazy, cowardly and stupid as fuck.

If you had undeniable proof that he did steal I'd cheer it on but this is fucking retarded. Double digit lower than 70 IQ shit from dudes just looking to prove masculinity in the face of their insecurity. If I had full context and was there I'd have stood by him and taken a whooping with him against that short bus bullshit.

What's even more disgusting is that you boast about it like it's something to be proud of then delude yourself into thinking you're somehow better than Krunk or Psyral for supporting Trump when I'm fairly sure neither would support that and neither fit the stereotypes of being blathering racist that you probably think of them.

Then again, if he actually is a thief then I sound like a complete dumbass. I just have profound loyalty in the "innocent until proven guilty" mantra because jackasses will force a fit just to get a conviction.

Pigg said
If dude stole from you, and was staying IN YOUR CAMP, wouldn't it be pretty easy to find out if he actually did it?

 

Also why you gonna go through the trouble of stomping dude out and burning his shit, but still give him a ride home.

If I thought someone stole from me, they're finding a new ride home or they're walking.  

Right?

Now imagine he didn't do it at all and they (as republicans do) assumed it was him because he was an "outsider".

They completely beat the fuck out of some innocent dude out of suspicion. Gross. What a bunch of gold star denied, special ed mother fuckers.

Oh and for the record, the Trump supporters may very well not be racists themselves personally. But, they are irrefutable bigot coddlers/apologists...bad enough in my book...  

Just imagine that guy not stealing then getting slapped and having his shit taken with accusations of it being stolen. He may think that you guys were just setting him up the whole time and the accusations of thievery were just a cover up in the public light.

But now we have an unsolved mystery. Did he actually steal from you guys? We may never truly know. We must contact Whang, he can get to the bottom of this.

JuggaloJ said
Oh and for the record, the Trump supporters may very well not be racists themselves personally. But, they are irrefutable bigot coddlers/apologists...bad enough in my book...    

I can't truly disagree with this and often times it comes off as them knowing exactly what they're doing but my only rebuttal would be that they don't see it that way. Psyral's said that he doesn't support everything Trump says or does and I'm sure Krunk is the same way. That wiggle room of deniability, no matter how exploited by actual racists, is enough for me to think it's out of line to hurl threats their way. Innocent until proven guilty. Even then, I don't think assault has ever changed anything. It'll most likely drive them further into the direction purely out of spite and they're already spiteful enough.