8:16 am
December 18, 2012
So people can make jokes about every other type of people but not gay people? Are gay people extra sensitive or something? Why do straight men on this forum think they have to defend gay people so god damn much? Can they not do it themselves? Are you insinuating gay people are weaker than straight people and need others to defend them? How come icp can make a song making fun of retarded children and everyone loves it but a song about killing homosexuals for being homosexuals is off limits??? Does no one see the hypocrisy?
Before anyone says anything about me being anti gay, I support all sexes and sexual orientations(except pedophiles they can get murdered horrendously and I’d love it). Seriously though people need to stop being offended by words or jokes. Especially from musicians or entertainers. Most of them play characters or are required to push the boundaries. Step outside of your world and realize everyone is raised differently with different beliefs and some of that is hard wired from child hood and cannot be easily swayed or changed. Get off your high horse you are no more noble than the next. Or we can all get brainwashed into believing the same shit, wear the same clothes, eat the same food, walk the same, talk the same, and then get led off a cliff like sheep. Stay different keep your beliefs if they are important to you but don’t spout off some holier than thou bullshit and wonder why people percieve you as a douchebag. Whether you are the offender or defender it don’t matter. Just my 2 cents have a wonderful day not everyone is trying to spread hate some just have a warped sense of humor
8:22 am
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August 6, 2013
Of course gay people can defend themselves, but they have also historically been oppressed and subjected to incredibly cruel treatment.
It's akin to making a song killing someone based solely on their religion or skin color.
PLUS, it has been made obvious over the years that these guys actually feel this way.
Anyone can make a song, they have that right. I just don't understand why anyone would ENJOY listening to a song about killing gay people simply for the fact that they're gay.
8:40 am
December 18, 2012
you Have a point and your intentions are pure. But icp have slaughtered hundreds of innocent people, kids, animals, etc for no other reason than entertainment. But sexual orientation is suddenly not allowed for some reason. You are telling me every single person icp has killed in songs are straight racist white guys that are evil?
9:42 am
March 30, 2013
I agree with a lot of what you both just said. What it all comes down to is the individual, though. Some straight dudes use "faggot" as (what they feel to be) a lighthearted play on words like "goofy ass dude", "silly" or "overly feminine to the point where it makes your masculinity humorous by comparison". I truly dont believe that there is any intentional hate in that approach. . . But is it ignorant and dumb? Yes. And we all do it. My wife calls me a fag and I her. That's our business, really. I am going to die someday, I dont really care at all about lovingly exchanging ribald slurs with my soulmate. Fags.
Then you have a recent example of Tennessee's Finest Slumerican getting internet-angry at me and using "faggot" as a way to try and establish some sort of intellectual/heterosexual superiority over me. His use of it was lazy, unoriginal and hateful... but.... I am not offended. I am not a homosexual (if you dont believe me, ask Slumerican's mother) and even if I was, I would be content with that. Not proud, per se, because I'm not "proud" to be a heterosexual male, either. Who the fuck runs around proclaiming how straight they are?
Imagine a Straight Pride Parade.
Or don't, and just go to a gentleman's club.
But yes, it comes down to the individual. I am tired of everyone on here playing fucking Saint Faygoluver. Fucking speaking for everyone else, like you know how they hurt inside from everything they experience.
I told someone at work the other day "at any given time when you speak words out loud, you are going to be offending someone, somewhere on this planet. So may as well just talk."
Actions are more important. When people talk, it is not carefully crafted and meaningful dialogue like in a motion picture. As we all k ow, most human speaking is a bunch of "ums" and "uhs", with a nice mixture of babblings, mindless chatter, coughing and being cut midsentence due to someone talking over you. In practice, language is a fucking bore and a chore. It would be nice if we could all talk like we were in a Tarantino movie (hopefully with much less 'nigger', though) but the reality is far more convoluted and chaotic.
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bozodklown9:08 am
July 28, 2016
There's a major difference between "I'm going to kill you because you're gay" and "Im killing random people and some of them are gay"
For the record, as admin at juggaLGBT I have regularly received slow your role along with threatening messages (although that has stopped over the past year or so). People don't hear it as a joke. They don't hear it as random killings.
Would you be down to listen to a song about looking for black people to murder because they are black?
Well, krunk would but some of you wouldn't. Relax it's a joke . Just words don't blow your top.
Anyway, the song is whack and nobody associated with it likes it so why do you? What do you get out of it?
Also pedophile isn't an orientation no matter how bad pedophiles want it to be.
If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter
9:26 am
May 4, 2014
10:59 am
June 27, 2018
SoopaVillains was just okay in my opinion.
The project seemed rushed.
And I think that Lavel dude ruined it!!!!
IN MY OPINION... SOOPAVILLAINS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SUPER GROUP WITH “INSANE CLOWN POSSE & NATAS)!!!!
Could you imagine Esham, Violent J, Shaggy, TNT, & Mastamind On ONE PROJECT????? It would have went ghetto platinum. It would still be talked about today. It would have gone down in infamy.
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Noah Fence, Old Mr Dangerous, bozodklown1:24 pm
July 28, 2016
Codeine1999 said
SoopaVillains was just okay in my opinion.The project seemed rushed.
And I think that Lavel dude ruined it!!!!
IN MY OPINION... SOOPAVILLAINS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A SUPER GROUP WITH “INSANE CLOWN POSSE & NATAS)!!!!
Could you imagine Esham, Violent J, Shaggy, TNT, & Mastamind On ONE PROJECT????? It would have went ghetto platinum. It would still be talked about today. It would have gone down in infamy.
Agreed on all fronts.
If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter
2:37 pm
September 1, 2014
If The dark Carnival was a continent, VJ would be its Donald Trump. Having a super group of Natas and ICP would have never worked out because VJ could never control every facet of it.
Imagine the Natas song, C U N Hell with violet J rapping over it, Ughhh...I'll Pass, Riddle Box-Melinko VJ, maybe, but modern VJ?
Oh hell nah.
Soopavillainz should have just been a one off project, like KJC. It makes the pop up shows much more special that way.
Besides, ICP is on its quantity over quality shit these days...what Anthems did the last two Jokers cards produce?
Focus on ICP, ICP.
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bozodklown10:01 pm
Members
August 6, 2013
HahahaWooo said
I don’t know why y’all are so bothered by ‘Slow Ya Roll.’ Shit is stone cold and catchy. Plus they make songs about killing pedophiles all the time and thats like the same thing as homosexuals in as far as mental diseases go. Less HIV, genital mutilation and suicide though.
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bozodklown10:08 pm
March 30, 2013
10:17 pm
March 16, 2017
Didnt Esham and Lavel release some tracks as the soopa villainz a couple years after furious? It didn't have shaggz or J on it. Also I wish that soopa heroes album would have happened and then a soopa heroes vs soopa villainz...that shit would have been fresh. Plus there would have been so much production/beat potential with Esham/Shaggz/Lavel/FritztheCat(at the time)
11:04 pm
March 30, 2013
AmputatedStumps said
Didnt Esham and Lavel release some tracks as the soopa villainz a couple years after furious? It didn't have shaggz or J on it. Also I wish that soopa heroes album would have happened and then a soopa heroes vs soopa villainz...that shit would have been fresh. Plus there would have been so much production/beat potential with Esham/Shaggz/Lavel/FritztheCat(at the time)
Yeah. "It Ain't Safe No More". Had lots of ICP disses on it.
Unfortunately, it has a couple of the best tracks on there. But they own the rights, Esham and Lavel.
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