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Hatchetman
Will sigler s gone from psychopathic
August 21, 2016
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I met him at this past gathering and I must say he seemed like a total dick.

August 21, 2016
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You realized this was discussed at length in the Psychopathic Radio thread?

August 21, 2016
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I feel like this is worthy of its own thread.  Sigler was involved with more than just Psychopathic Radio, and the controversy doesn't even have anything to do with the Radio Show anyway

August 21, 2016
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Where the fuck are all these ninjas coming out of the woodwork with accounts supposedly created fuckin' YEARS ago with post counts in the LOWER DOUBLE DIGITS?

Where you fuckers been? ( and NOT just you @swollenthumb ) You mean to tell me in the last FIVE YEARS (or whatever) THIS was the first and only thing that fostered a response?!

 

I'm still absorbing all this shit and will probably try to make a fuckin' DIAGRAM to figure it all out but in the meantime...

I gotta say some of you fuckers got some "Selective Forgiveness Syndrome"... We ain't gonna err on the side of family when it comes to Will and his accounting of the situation but when Shaggy has GONE ON RECORD as having [paraphrasing]"...gone through a period where I punched girls in their face..." ...

 

Will left Psychopathic. That's all there is to it at this point but I'd still like to know what the fuck all this shit is REALLY about.

 

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August 21, 2016
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I apologize if my post count offends you, Cheshyr.  I can't speak for the others, but in my case, I don't always have anything to add to the conversation.  I prefer to lurk and chime in whenever I feel like I have something to contribute.

 

I've been lurking at Faygoluvers since it was competing with Real Juggalos and Juggalo Nation... not that such things matter, of course.  I remember in 2001, (listen to dot.com by Dark Lotus) when Scottie D was just another Juggalo with a website, and now in 2016, he's outlasted ALL OF THEM, and is THE MAN when it comes to independent underground news.  Mad respect for that.

As to the actual topic at hand, I agree with the "selective forgiveness syndrome" thing.  At the very least, Sigler should get some recognition for the hard work he's done for the hatchet.

However, I can see both sides of the argument.  His past, guilty or not, does seem to clash with Psychopathic's current ideals.

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August 21, 2016
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SwollenThumb said
I apologize if my post count offends you, Cheshyr.  I can't speak for the others, but in my case, I don't always have anything to add to the conversation.  I prefer to lurk and chime in whenever I feel like I have something to contribute.

 

I've been lurking at Faygoluvers since it was competing with Real Juggalos and Juggalo Nation... not that such things matter, of course.  I remember in 2001, (listen to dot.com by Dark Lotus) when Scottie D was just another Juggalo with a website, and now in 2016, he's outlasted ALL OF THEM, and is THE MAN when it comes to independent underground news.  Mad respect for that.

As to the actual topic at hand, I agree with the "selective forgiveness syndrome" thing.  At the very least, Sigler should get some recognition for the hard work he's done for the hatchet.

Shit, homie... I apologize. I wasn't trying to take a swing at YOU specifically. Just an observation. There HAS been an uptick in the number of "zombie accounts" suddenly posting and between troll shit and the dubious nature of this "Psychopathic leak", you can see how shit can look with the wrong set of glasses... but I guess I'd like to think that Faygoluvers is starting to make a turn so I shouldn't be "so" surprised... FLH does work! cool

However, I can see both sides of the argument.  His past, guilty or not, does seem to clash with Psychopathic's current ideals.

Agreed... but as to all things... "To what end?" Whose issue was this? Why are we hearing about it now? Do we also start some shit with all the hair metal bands of the 80's and 90's that were fucking underage groupies that managed to sneak in... MEH NO! I'm not getting into THAT cyclical debate! I'll just leave these thoughts from long ago...:

https://youtu.be/1Rr1YTWMJrU

 

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August 22, 2016
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If only will could moonwalk and make jams like thriller would this be excusable. Only MJ can be loved "pedo" 

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August 22, 2016
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che said
If only will could moonwalk and make jams like thriller would this be excusable. Only MJ can be loved "pedo"   

exactly! and maybe a couple million dollars for the victim! lol

replacing my heart with a liver, so I can drink more and care less!

May 10, 2017
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Let's revisit this, shall we? I think all evidence points to this bitch being "Mr. X". He definitely still works for PSY. Shameful. 

May 10, 2017
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Mm

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Let's revisit this, shall we? I think all evidence points to this bitch being "Mr. X". He definitely still works for PSY. Shameful.   

Damm b

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May 10, 2017
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I will say it again.  Will is NOT Mr. X.  I give you my word on that.  

May 10, 2017
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ScottieD said
I will say it again.  Will is NOT Mr. X.  I give you my word on that.    

Damm cuz.

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May 10, 2017
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Your rep is solid Scottie, I believe you. I blame PSY for this stupid Mr. X gimmick. It forces people to speculate, especially when they get caught with Mr. Siglers tattooed arms hanging out of the cookie jar. Thanks for the verification. 

May 10, 2017
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my goodness...  you were made to speculate against your will?  

'forced speculation'.  sounds real painful.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 10, 2017
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It's a turn of phrase. I am forced to guess because the information is kept clandestine. Using a "hard alias" like Mr. X encourages my curiosity. Was I physically forced? No. Would I give it a second thought if they just used a random name? No. 

By using "Mr. X." they are forcing me to speculate. Speculation is fun. No harm, no foul. 

May 11, 2017
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Cut the bullshit, guys. Jump to 13 minute mark.

 

Violent J Employs A Pedophile and Disses Majik Ninja Again #BeastHost #BeardSpeaks EP 12

That pervert is clearly in the new video. The tattoos don't lie. Chuck was right. Fuck Psychopathic for that!

 

Chuck is not one to speak without having consulted documents. He is very trustworthy. Observe this out of date link I found through the webarchive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160610135611/https://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2008_08_13_archive.html

08/13/2008

MANSFIELD William Sigler is pleased by a local court ruling restoring his sexual offender classification to the level of least serious.

Sigler, 29, claimed the Adam Walsh Act, signed by President Bush in July 2006, unfairly grouped him as a sexual predator someone who repeatedly or deliberately set out to find victims.

Richland County Common Pleas Judge James DeWeese found in favor of the Mansfield mans appeal Monday, ruling that retroactive reclassifications are unconstitutional in the state of Ohio.
- And everywhere else as well.

According to James Mayer III, Siglers latest attorney, DeWeese is one of the states first judges to issue a ruling among hundreds of appeals filed since the Ohio Attorney Generals office reclassified all sexual offenders.

Under the mandate of the Adam Walsh Act, states must fully comply by July 2009 or face a 10 percent cut to their share of federal grant funds used to fight crime funding that suffered a 67-percent cut in 2007.

Mayer believes other defense attorneys across Ohio will use DeWeeses ruling in arguing for their own clients.

Sigler pleaded guilty to attempted rape through a plea bargain agreement in May 2000 and was sentenced to six years in prison. His guilty plea stemmed from a November 2006 incident in which he forced a 14-year-old girl to perform oral sex at gunpoint. A pre-sentence report indicated that two other women said Sigler forced them to have sexual relations with him. DeWeese called him a sexually oriented offender and said he would not be a good candidate for successful counseling.

In 2000, DeWeese used details of the case and attorneys recommendations to determine Sigler's classification as a sex offender upon his release from prison.

That classification was dismissed under the Walsh Act, and Sigler was reclassified from Tier I, the least serious category, to Tier III, the most serious.

In reclassifying him under the new law, the Ohio attorney general considered only the level of crime he pleaded to, rather than actual details, Mayer said.

The retroactive reclassification to Tier III meant Sigler would have to register with the sheriffs department every 90 days for the rest of his life, instead of once a year for 10 years or face felony charges. It also meant the Richland County Sheriffs Department would mail notification cards to every address within a mile of Siglers residence.

Siglers name would be added to a national sex offender registry under the Walsh Act, but that portion of the law was ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge in Florida last April. Currently, Sigler is identified as a sex offender on a registry kept by the Richland County Sheriffs office and the state of Ohio.

After his reclassification appeared online early in 2008, coworkers and neighbors looked at him much differently, Sigler said.

When people started thinking I was a predator, they had a problem talking with me, Sigler said.

The Mansfield resident said hed been up front with co-workers.

I had no secrets. I told everybody. I said, Id rather you hear it from me than from someone else, or on the Internet, Sigler said.

The reclassification made people think he lied about the seriousness of his offense, he said.

Afterward, he was barred from Starbucks, since juveniles might be found there.

My (probation officers) said I couldnt (go there) on the basis that I was just sitting there, hanging out. Well, that is what you do, when youre enjoying your $7 latte, Sigler said.

In his ruling Monday, DeWeese said it is appropriate to use the new classifications for people convicted in new cases, but it violates the Ohio Constitution to retroactively change a sentence a court previously decided.

In his ruling, the judge noted the Walsh Act has resulted in more than half of the countys sex offenders being reclassified as Tier III offenders.

Sigler said his classification is a crucial issue.

Tier I, he explained, means usually that youve made one mistake in your life. You made a bad choice. You chose to do something wrong, and youre paying for it."

Those labeled Tier II are considered habitual offenders, but not necessarily predators.

It has been a heck of a struggle for him, Mayer said of his client. He was distraught to open that letter, seven, eight years later saying that they were going to reclassify him. He wanted to fight it, right from the start.

The Ohio attorney general may appeal, Mayer said.

I dont think were going to know how this will play out for some time. But I do feel strongly that Judge DeWeese got it right.

DeWeese, who could have sentenced Sigler to anywhere from two to eight years in prison, meted out nearly the maximum penalty in 2000. Still, Sigler said Wednesday hed hoped DeWeese would be assigned his appeal, since hed heard the original case.

I am just very pleased with the results of the judges findings, he said.

Here is the court document relating to his appeal.
https://www.sconet.state.oh.us/rod/docs/pdf/5/2009/2009-ohio-2010.pdf

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May 11, 2017
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Honestly if that shit really happened dude should be executed. That girl is gonna be fucked up for the rest of her life. He didnt pay his debt to society.

You could never pay enough for something like that. Shit is unreal.

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May 11, 2017
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Notice the usual Psy cock riders are silent on the issue? I bet you child's play ninja ain't gonna touch this.

 

Or maybe we should start calling him child porn ninja ?

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May 11, 2017
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Slumerican502 said
Honestly if that shit really happened dude should be executed. That girl is gonna be fucked up for the rest of her life. He didnt pay his debt to society.

You could never pay enough for something like that. Shit is unreal.  

Don't forget it wasn't just that first girl he violated.

 

"A pre-sentence report indicated that two other women said Sigler forced them to have sexual relations with him."

May 11, 2017
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Notice the usual Psy cock riders are silent on the issue? I bet you child's play ninja ain't gonna touch this.

TheBoyBlue91982 talked about it in a video published on youtube on Nov 13, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUuRKF2SEZo

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