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February 26, 2018
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I’ve always been interested in the politics of gender and sports. My buddy (who grew up playing volleyball) wasn’t allowed to play in high school because boys/men have a competitive advantage. There were girls who were allowed to play on the football team (which I have no problem with)

 

If my friend had started identifying as a woman would he have been allowed to play? Does his identification as female, even if nuerologically sound, negate his biological competitive advantage that comes from having a male body?

 

I think these are important questions that warrant an honest discussion.

February 26, 2018
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I wish i could give young little girl krunk a hug…

I imagine her ugly as shit with the head she has now on a little girls body. But ill sitll do it.

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February 26, 2018
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Pigg said
I’ve always been interested in the politics of gender and sports. My buddy (who grew up playing volleyball) wasn’t allowed to play in high school because boys/men have a competitive advantage. There were girls who were allowed to play on the football team (which I have no problem with)

 

If my friend had started identifying as a woman would he have been allowed to play? Does his identification as female, even if nuerologically sound, negate his biological competitive advantage that comes from having a male body?

 

I think these are important questions that warrant an honest discussion.  

Eh if they a girl… they a girl

To me its like saying black ppl shouldnt play basketball with white ppl cuz they are tall. Not all black ppl are tall and not all trans ppl are going to be beasty or hella feminine. 

No angry Samoans in football.

Shit changes.

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February 26, 2018
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Also it sounds like we are making a dcale in how male u are still. Cuz they are taking hormones. So biologically speaking they are changing.

So do these skills just go away cuz they arw becoming women? Or was the biological advantage simply just her size?

Or is the biological advantage associated with men have a mental advatage over women when it comes to sports. As in as their brain is betting programed for sorts.

I dunno seems like we making like a spectrum scale.

I think we should let things unfold as they should.

I hope trans is the end of sports.

All hail the light skin GOAT curry.

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February 26, 2018
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This rare footage of East Germany’s Women’s Olympic Team says it all.

YouTube Video East German Womens Olympic Team Rare Footage 

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February 27, 2018
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Psyral Infection said

Not sure it is larger than we thought. I see the current gender spectrum as it is viewed at this time as potentially infinite.

And there is a problem with the wrestling issue. There are guys who are wanting to compete as girls who absolutely do not identify as girls but are willing to say they do just to “prove a point”.

And where does it end and who decides what is valid and what is not? The realm this is going is open to abuse. I do not care one way or the other how someone identifies themselves, but I think an open mind must be tempered with scepticism.

There are people who identify as other species. Should they be able to walk around in public nude like dogs do if they identify as a dog? What of the people who identify as a child. Should they be able to compete in sports against children when their biological age is something like 27? There are those who self identify as vampires. Whould we be bigots if we said we don’t see them as vampires?

I know I branched away from the gender issue but I was showing the road it could lead. Will it lead to that? Hopefully not and probably not. But it is unclear where to draw the line and say, “Ok, that’s far enough.” And who gets to decide that line?  

Don’t slippery slope this shit because that is the type of rhetoric that’s always used by bigots. They said gay marriage was a slippery slope to bestiality. No, that’s garbage.

As for the what ifs, well, every system in place is being taken advantage of by people who found loopholes, including your president who openly admitted to using loopholes to evade paying taxes, this will be no different. We’ll find out when we get there, but for now, let’s not deny scientific growth for the sake of ‘what if’. Just accept that shit is changing and we don’t truly understand as much as we thought.

February 27, 2018
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I really didn’t think I was “slippery slope”-ing this. I was posing questions which is what true science does. It never accepts, always questions. Nothing is ever settled and everything is open forever to be denied, questioned, and repostulated. Even scientific laws are not set being defined as simply a description of an observation. Of course you can find definitions of scientific laws that state that they are invariably proven but this is a new (common core) style definition which destroys scientific thought. The four fundamental tenants of scientific thought are fact, law, hypothosis, and theory. Facts are what is observed. Laws describe the observation. Hypothosis is an attempted explanation of the described obeservation (law). Theories are the result of substantiated hyposthosis based on experimentation. The tenants never change class but can evolve only within their classification. Theories can never become laws, facts, or a hypothosis. A hyposthosis cannot change into any of the others. Laws cannot become facts or anything else either. I always find it odd when people say something is only a theory since theory is actually the highest of the four tenants with facts and laws being the lowest. … Well, I ran off on a tangent there. Back on tract … Everything should be questioned and never “accepted” even if it goes against social ideas… especially if it goes against social ideas.

Do I personally think it will lead to the far fetched expamples I gave? No. I even said it would probably not lead to that. The extreme possibilities (however unlikely) were used for emphasis to drive the question.

I think we are doing well with this. Several people ( @piggofdoom , @bayareashaman , and others ) have posed additional questions which help spark the necessary discourse that should accompany all social changes and ideas. I am at work and probably shouldn’t be devoting this time to posings answers or even replying with my tangental responses, but I will try to revisit your questions when I get a chance.

It is unfortunate that my type of “rhetoric” questioning used by social scientists and even by progressive think tanks is “always used by bigots”. Maybe I am a bigot along with those scientists and progressives. It seems that only a tiny group here seems to accuse me of being a bigot and intollerant even though people with whom I interact personally have quite an opposite opinion of me and my mindset. Oh well. The accusations don’t change what people who know me know about me, if that makes any sense.

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February 27, 2018
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My hypothesis is that King’s mad because the only one on here who calls him a troll anymore is him, and lately real science seems to trigger WAY more posters than he ever has.

Conclusion: He’s

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February 27, 2018
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Bill Nye ain’t much of a scientist. He’s inspired others but he’s more so a comedian wrapped in a lab coat.

February 27, 2018
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Solomon Grundy said
Bill Nye ain’t much of a scientist. He’s inspired others but he’s more so a comedian…

and perhaps a fascist?..

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February 27, 2018
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Psyral Infection said
I really didn’t think I was “slippery slope”-ing this. I was posing questions which is what true science does. It never accepts, always questions. Nothing is ever settled and everything is open forever to be denied, questioned, and repostulated. Even scientific laws are not set being defined as simply a description of an observation. Of course you can find definitions of scientific laws that state that they are invariably proven but this is a new (common core) style definition which destroys scientific thought. The four fundamental tenants of scientific thought are fact, law, hypothosis, and theory. Facts are what is observed. Laws describe the observation. Hypothosis is an attempted explanation of the described obeservation (law). Theories are the result of substantiated hyposthosis based on experimentation. The tenants never change class but can evolve only within their classification. Theories can never become laws, facts, or a hypothosis. A hyposthosis cannot change into any of the others. Laws cannot become facts or anything else either. I always find it odd when people say something is only a theory since theory is actually the highest of the four tenants with facts and laws being the lowest. … Well, I ran off on a tangent there. Back on tract … Everything should be questioned and never “accepted” even if it goes against social ideas… especially if it goes against social ideas.

Do I personally think it will lead to the far fetched expamples I gave? No. I even said it would probably not lead to that. The extreme possibilities (however unlikely) were used for emphasis to drive the question.

I think we are doing well with this. Several people ( @piggofdoom , @bayareashaman , and others ) have posed additional questions which help spark the necessary discourse that should accompany all social changes and ideas. I am at work and probably shouldn’t be devoting this time to posings answers or even replying with my tangental responses, but I will try to revisit your questions when I get a chance.

It is unfortunate that my type of “rhetoric” questioning used by social scientists and even by progressive think tanks is “always used by bigots”. Maybe I am a bigot along with those scientists and progressives. It seems that only a tiny group here seems to accuse me of being a bigot and intollerant even though people with whom I interact personally have quite an opposite opinion of me and my mindset. Oh well. The accusations don’t change what people who know me know about me, if that makes any sense.  

I the shaman do not endorse this statement.

Vote for me for forum Mayor

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February 27, 2018
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And now, back to the LGBTQSTFU Mafia’a manifesto.

YouTube Video Bill Nye hits peak trans  

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February 27, 2018
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bayAreaShaman said

I the shaman do not endorse this statement.

Vote for me for forum Mayor  

As long as ur called The Two-Faced Mayor u have my vote.

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February 27, 2018
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Don’t know if I’d call him fascist or he didn’t know how to respond to that question.

Vote Solomon Grundy for Forum Mayor and I’ll enrich you beyond the illusions of life and death

February 27, 2018
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krunkazphuk said

bayAreaShaman said

I the shaman do not endorse this statement.

Vote for me for forum Mayor  

As long as ur called The Two-Faced Mayor u have my vote.

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Yeah i can do that. I like it.

I go by many names.

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February 27, 2018
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bayAreaShaman said

Yeah i can do that. I like it.

I go by many names.  

But are known to the living only as… THE WRAITH?

 

9+8

Whoop whoop Pigg :

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February 27, 2018
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Not gonna lie.  As a parent, I’d be pissed lol, now I don’t have a daughter but I could only imagine.  I just learned about this little kid too.  Not here to argue either…jus sayin…

February 27, 2018
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I know i make no sense sometimes but i hope yall know i wish they let that little boy play with the rest of the little boys.

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February 27, 2018
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djscrubb said
Not gonna lie.  As a parent, I’d be pissed lol, now I don’t have a daughter but I could only imagine.  I just learned about this little kid too.  Not here to argue either…jus sayin…  

Which part would piss you off? That could be taken a lot of ways lol

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@piggofdoom said

djscrubb said
Not gonna lie.  As a parent, I’d be pissed lol, now I don’t have a daughter but I could only imagine.  I just learned about this little kid too.  Not here to argue either…jus sayin…  

Which part would piss you off? That could be taken a lot of ways lol  

My take was that @djscrubb would not like if his daughter had to fight against him. I think he means that the guy should fight guys. I may be wrong. He could be seeing it differntly,though. Like he would be upset if his daughter decided to undergo hormonal therapy to be a guy.

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