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TECH N9NE wants more black fans at his shows - thoughts and discussion
May 1, 2014
6:55 pm
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First here is a link to the FLH article in case any ninjas missed it-

 

https://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/.....his-shows/

May 1, 2014
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From The Urban Daily:

Tech N9ne is not satisfied. Despite leading a diverse roster of multi-talented artists with all the money, power and respect that years in the game and an awesome catalog have earned him, the MC is still after one simple thing.

“I’m still working on my people, black folks,” the Strange Music CEO says in earnest. “I’m doing research out here on the road right now. My music is for everybody man. And when it’s just my people missing? Now, don’t get me wrong, a lot of my people are trickling in now, but it’s not how it’s supposed to be. My music is for everybody, so everybody is supposed to be there. True, indeed my shows are melting pots but they could be more of a melting pot. There’s a lot more I haven’t reached.”

Since 1999 the Kansas City native born Aaron Dontez Yates has been terrorizing stages and beats with his signature “Killer Clown” flow and energy. He’s released over a dozen albums and half as many EPS, selling 2 million units in that time span. He’s rhymed alongside everyone from Emimen and Busta Rhymes to Lil Wayne, B.O.B. and Kendrick Lamar, but his name has not achieved their level of ubiquity.

With his latest project “Strangeulation” being released on May 6th, Tech took a break from the “Independent Grind” tour he’s on with Freddie Gibbs and others to talk about what keeps him motivated, what he’s been missing in music, what other avenues of entertainment he’s trying to conquer next and which artists he sees as his successor. Come get familiar with the stranger side of Hip-Hop.

TUD: You own your label, merchandising, warehouses, cars and homes. You’ve made a ton of money, gotten all the respect and been around the world. But with you there’s always another album and always another tour. What’s the motivation? What keeps you going?

Tech N9ne: It just boils down to something real simple, man. I love music and without it I’d die. You gotta look at the people who said they were gonna retire; Jay-Z, Too Short… they said Wayne’s been planning it. It’s hard when you have this in your veins. It’s just the love of Hip-Hop. The love of seeing people smile when you walk out on stage, even though you’re looking sinister. It’s a rush like no other just being able to come up with new ideas for your fans. It’s a blessing to be able to do it. It’s that simple. I love music. When I hear a dope beat, no matter how tired I am, sometimes, it just motivates me and I gotta go in. I think that’s why a lot of people don’t retire, because it’s in their veins just like me.

Has it ever crossed your mind to retire? Have you ever gotten close?

Aww man, yes man, all the time! Back in 2009, I think? I just know I was done, you know what I mean? In my brain, I’m like, “Okay, I got all these artists on my label. I can just lay back and just chill. I can do verses for their albums and just chill, relax. You know what I mean?” No way man… I’ve thought about it so many times man. Like “I’m cool, I’m cool, I’m cool…. Nah, we ain’t cool man.” I still got a lot of people to touch. We’re not cool, we are not complacent, we have so many more faces to heal. So no.

Who haven’t you gotten to yet? What’s this other frontier you’re trying to get to?

When we go down south and we’re doing shows, I go onstage and I see my crowd, there’s white folks, there’s Mexican folks, there Asian folks and… it’s just a couple of black folks sprinkled. So when I go to a mall and these places in the day, it’s all black folks saying, “Tech9! Tech9! What are you doing here??” They don’t know. So it’s something that I’m doing or not doing. So I’m figuring this out.

I’m probably not supposed to be talking about this, but I’m a real one. I study everyday to see what it is that I’m doing wrong that I don’t have my people. Like the urban side of our promotion, maybe we need to enhance it because everybody been knowing about me. They’re knowing me through face recognition even though I have on face paint on stage. When I’m out here in the mall shopping for shoes and stuff in these towns like Birmingham Alabama and Mobile–the first couple of shows we had and these black folks are loving me and taking pictures with me the whole time I’m at the mall. But they ain’t at the show? I have work to do.

It’s funny that your ambition is to get more black people at the show when I’m sure there are plenty of label heads who’ll want their artist to crossover and get the fans you have.

[Laughs] Yeah, that’s real. That’s what people are on. But I’m not selfish like that. A lot of people say the black folks don’t buy CDs and that they don’t come to shows. That’s a lie. I’ve been to a Jay Z show. I know in Hip-Hop the number one consumer is probably a white person. But I’ve been to a Young Jeezy show; I’ve been to a Waka Flocka show. I know they go to shows. I’ve been there. So yeah, that’s cool that you want to get the white crowd, but that’s just business. People want to go where the money is. I understand that, but me, I’m an artist. I belong to everyone.

But in 2014, when all the genres are blending and people are doing their best to not see color, you can say you’ve been inclusive from the door. Are you worried you might be hustling backwards?

Nah, cause when I started out, the black folks was with me. In 2001, I came out with “Angehellic,” I was on the cover as a fallen angel and then I told a story about a good guy gone bad. When I expressed my spirituality a lot of black folks thought I was a devil worshipper and I had to work really hard ever since to get that back. If you do your research, like on my “MLK” album years ago, I had a song called “Message To A Black Man” where I’m talking about I’m doing all this wonderful music and y’all missing it. I need my people here.

Last year came “Breaking Into Colored Houses (BITCH)” with T-Pain. Like okay, I’m tired of knocking. I need y’all at my show. So my quest has been to get everybody at my show. All people, all creeds and my people are the only ones missing and I’ve been knocking for a while.  Since we started, we’ve always had the support of everybody else but I am not complacent. I am not done with my people, I will not write my people off.

Do you worry about this quest alienating the groups of people who’ve supported from the door? I know you don’t want that…

My music is for everybody.  They’re gonna be there. And there’s more of them coming. I’m not saying eliminate what we’re doing, I’m saying enhance what we have. We add somebody who can touch these other people when it comes to the promotions side, that’s all I’m saying. I don’t want to take away anything we have, but I’m a real one so my music is always gonna resonate to real folks. And a lot of black folks know that my music is real. They listen to it, but just getting them there is the quest. No, I would never ever alienate my fans. When I say white folks, that’s like college folks are coming, the ICP fans are coming, metal-heads are coming, some gang-bangers are coming, it’s everybody.  I just need that other demo right there at my shows.

Ok, from a boss standpoint. Jay had Bleek as a successor. Wayne has Drake…

And Nicki.

You’re right, Nicki too. Do you think you’ve signed the person who can step into Tech N9ne’s shoes and run the kingdom for the next 10-20 years?

Every time I sign an artist, starting from Krizz Kaliko, I feel like he’s a supreme artist who can do what I do plus more. Every time I sign a Ces Cru, I sign somebody who can do what I do plus more. Every time I sign a Mayday! Band, I sign them cause I think they can do what I do, plus.  Stevie Stone, same thing. Murs, Jay Rock, whatever. I do that. And we’re not done. That’s what I mean; we have a lot of work to do. It ain’t just me getting black folks to my shows; it’s my artists that we’re working on as well. Trying to get them on tours, trying to get them seen because it’s all about being seen in front of all those people you know what I mean? So we’re on a forever quest to blow this thing out of the water and it’s happening slowly but surely.

So the answer to that question is yes, every time I sign somebody. Like when you listen to Krizz Kaliko, he can rap, he raps his ass off, he’s a lethal lyricist. But then he can sing! He can really blow if I can get him on a tour with Janelle Monae or Black Eyed Peas or Cee-Lo Green or whoever, he can do it! Or Kutt Calhoun, if I can get him on a tour with T.I. or Wayne… or Mayday! If I can get them with a Sublime or… whoever! I just want to push hard for Strange Music. That’s what we do here… we push all the artists and believe in them equally.

May 1, 2014
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Tech just has to accept that over half his fans are Juggalos, and 95 percent of us are white. I don't get why Tech is so desperate to cross over into the mainstream. He should have learned from being on the Rock the Bells tour back in the day. He received a very mixed response from the mostly mainstream rap crowd in attendance.I read a review for that tour where the critic said Tech's set was the time when most of the crowd went to get a beer. Jay Z success just isn't meant to be for him- no big deal. Also I think Tech way overestimates his importance for an underground rapper with very few if any true "hits". He had the balls to charge 50 dollars for tickets last time he came to Toronto!yell I've never paid that much to see a rap show in a club, and I wasn't about to pay that much to see him again for the umpteenth time. A Tech show is worth a 35 dollar ticket-tops.

May 1, 2014
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"Once you reach your fantasy you got five more fantasies.. that's real" - Bullet

Lol just playin... but so what? He's on top of the independent circuit, might as well let Tech chase a goal to keep his creativity and energy flowing.

May 1, 2014
7:55 pm
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Im taking the fact the he won't shut the fuck up about it the wrong way...thats for sure...I mean dude's been on this same note since 2007....We get it you want more black people at your shows....duely noted moving on can you please stop interviewing about it and making songs about it...just a shot in the dark....

 

 

 

 

 

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May 1, 2014
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
I understand why black folk don't dig ICP and Twiztid.  But then I'm confused cuz they like Eminem.  

I went to Twiztid in March 2013, ICP in May 2013 and Tech N9ne on Monday all at the same venue. There were more black people at ICP and Twiztid than Tech N9ne's show.

 

 

 

May 1, 2014
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Ya know this kinda reminds of when The Game was on Howard Stern and they asked him about beefing with Hopsin, and The Game said, "white kids like him", like he was letting Howard know that Hopsin wasn't popular among black people. Being categorized similar to Hopsin probably eats away at Tech, rappers like The Game just don't really respect him I guess. Here is that clip from Howard Stern,  they fuck up a lot of the facts about Hopsin when discussing himlaugh

[youtube]mJ1A7IyRgq0[/youtube]

 

May 1, 2014
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I think there's a reason people of of an ethnic backgrounds are called minorities. White people are the majority. It's statistics. I think anyone that remotely likes rap likes tech at least a little. I think black people being the dominant force in hip-hop hasn't been the case for a while. Fuck if I really know though

May 1, 2014
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Demented Smoka said
I think there's a reason people of of an ethnic backgrounds are called minorities. White people are the majority. It's statistics. I think anyone that remotely likes rap likes tech at least a little. I think black people being the dominant force in hip-hop hasn't been the case for a while. Fuck if I really know though

I just realized this makes absolutey no fucking sense. There's just more white people in the US, that's all.

May 1, 2014
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Just make music. The people who like it will be your audience. Looking at skin color is so last decade. And double thinking your music to force a certain demographic is a quick path to failure.

Not that I really know the music industry, those are just my thoughts.

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May 1, 2014
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I get what he's trying to say...

It'd be like, say, a Juggalo making it big *as a Juggalo and then having to wonder why there aren't more Juggalos at their shows.

BUT...

I also have to add to the voices saying that while it may be a conundrum, it *should be unimportant.If I were the kind to make racial speculations (an' I ain't), I'd have to throw it out there that being that the majority (apparently) of Tech's fanbase *already is white, then "black people" that are always bitching about white people "stealing" black people's music can't run their mouth on the usual "US vs THEM" bullshit. I mean, let's not ignore the elephant in the room and admit that in certain situations that black people can be every bit as "racist" as white people get accused of being and there are just *some black people that think that "whites" should be nowhere near the rap game let alone become the largest demographic buying and listening to hip-hop.

Another thing "working against" Tech is the fact that the majority of the imagery he projects isn't all rims and fat asses. Not to generalize (cuz *that's racist), but some of the artists he mentioned have a lot of cars, guns and bitches as primary subject matter. Tech ain't *shy about that shit but that's not what he's about... And let's also mention his beats are very... eclectic. He's not content to just sit on a hi-hat with a bunch of sub-woofer bullshit. He appeals to a bunch of different genres and admittedly, those genres don't have all that many black people in *them either... He even makes mention of the fact that he "spits over breakbeats" in a song I can't think of at the moment.

Like I've said elsewhere on ICP videos on YouTube, the days of "race claiming" hip-hop and rap are OVER! Music is for everyone and there's no such thing as a genre that only *some people can/should be listening to. Just like Twiztid's argument about people they feel are thinking have to choose between them and Psychopathic just based on a record label, the same goes for people's skin color. If the basis of critique of *any music is race, then THEY are being the racists they are claiming to admonish...

Hey, if it weren't for french white guys liking it during WWI & WWII, jazz would'a been fucked.

I get what he's saying though and it's good to see that *he sees it as a PR thing and not a flaw in himself. I just wish/hope he doesn't lament over it much/for too long...

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May 1, 2014
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
I guess I don't follow Tech enough to get annoyed by it.  I rarely listen to his interviews, or read them.  This is only the second time I've heard him discuss this, and the first time it was only casually mentioned. 

He has made at  several songs about it maybe more.  Its not a passing thing and its the reason hes been making rushed shitty music since about 2009.  Two that come to mind are below Message to the Black man (2007) and Breaking Into Colored Houses (B.I.T.C.H)

 

He mentions it all the time in interviews.

 

Im kinda just over Tech in general.  I like him and all but hes sufficiently alienated me away from buying his music or even listening to it because its so repetitive and about simplistic shit I don't really care about.  He addresses people like me on his song Harvey Dent offa Ollie Gates Mixed Plate...it is the third video after this post.  I still bump Anghellic and Absolute Power all the time.  He came through DC last week too, but I now judge whether to go to his tour based on the openers...as Ive seen him over a dozen times...and I didn't know who Freddie Gibbs was...I went to his last show that came through with Rittz and Brother Lynch and Kutt though so there it is.  His live show is still worth the money imo.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_p8JGZnLDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ01mDawRU0&feature=kp

 

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May 1, 2014
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Tech became big because of the juggalos. Juggalos started liking Angellic, then Absolute Power came out and juggalos mentioned it so much that it caught the attention of Violent J. So J contacted Tech to get him on The Green Book and see what the response was like. Then he became more and more famous and 99% of his fans are juggalos -

May 1, 2014
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i first caught Tech when he was on the Wicked Wonka tour. i bought Absolute Power before the show to check him out and thought it was the coolest shit ever.

everyone that i ask if they heard of Tech,white or black, that is not a juggalo, says they never heard of him.

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May 1, 2014
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yeah really - nobody has a clue who he is unless they already to listen to psychopathic artists

May 2, 2014
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At least in Omaha, college kids are more into Tech than Juggalos, that's not to say that there aren't juggalos, they are just the "Those guys" that annoy people. I remember I argued with this dude in high school for days because he thought Tech was whack but Lil Wayne was the shit...

May 2, 2014
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sketchez said
yeah really - nobody has a clue who he is unless they already to listen to psychopathic artists

That's a big statement. Though juggalos definitely broadened his fan base and most people may have inadvertently  heard of him through juggalos we're not the only ones who know about him. I was given everready as a gift when I was a kid and barely new who ICP were much less their label and roster. I didn't realize strange was his label or know shit about it actually but knew who tech was. Anyway, way we could account for 30%-60% but all the other fans found out through the Gang Related soundtrack, internet, or tours. I think he's opened for Jay-Z and other shit. We are most likely his core, but not his everything.

Also, twiztid said recently it was all their own idea to get him on serial killa.

May 2, 2014
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He never said he wanted less white people, he said that he wants more black people, as in more people.

Every white person that is offended is a closed minded fuck. Period. He never said fuck you, he said I want more. He wants EVERYBODY jamming to him, that includes white and black, so he’s hurt when there isn’t enough black especially when it’s his race.

This is something that most white people will never get since we are the majority in this country. Minorities have closer bonds with in their race. Doesn’t mean they are racist or that they hate other races, they just stick together when they are not the majority the same way juggalos have a tight bond. Being a juggalo used to be such an esoteric thing back in the day that finding another juggalo was like finding treasure. That’s how I imagine being a minority is.

It’s like, you have a huge group of diverse friends like the metal head friend and the swaggot friend and the raver friend and the nerdy friend and so on. None of them like juggalo shit. Even with all those great friends you still search for and long for a juggalo friend for that one simple connection that you could not get with those other friends. That’s what Tech is doing. So quit bitching.

 

Oh, and juggalos need to get the fuck off of their pedestal and stop claiming that every underground rapper with a juggalo following owes their success to juggalos. Ya'll even go as far as claiming that every successful underground label got it's blueprint from Psychopathic.

May 2, 2014
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obviously, being in missouri is a factor, but techs fans here are maybe twenty, twenty-five percent juggalos, in my experience.  

 

i could contribute all kinds of points to the racial questions, but the truth is, i find the discussion largely tedious, and old hat.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 2, 2014
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He's been alienating his OG fanbase since Gates. That's when he really dipped his toes into the mainstream pool. It was successful purely on an artistic level. He came back with 6's and 7's but had the backing from those mainstream cats he picked up from Gates. After that his shit has been 100% garbage fast tracked for air play. That's the last album i've bought from him. I remember it was $8.95 for a signed CD, a shirt, and some stickers(I still have that shit sitting in the package it came in). Similar presales (no clothing) now go for $30 just a couple years later. If that doesn't show you how much of a sellout he AND his camp are I don't know what to say. His shows used to be $15-$20 now they're $35-$50. I understand the want and need to make more money, but a 200% jump in a matter of years doesn't add up against the sales he makes.

 

He wants to be and chooses to perceive himself as something he isn't and can't be. Which is a mainstream icon. Why wasn't ruling the underground enough? Did he not have enough mansions? Are the 2(or 3?) warehouses they own not big enough? And I don't believe in that "He's evolving as an artist that's why his music sounds different". He's just not as personable with his music. In every CD he puts out there are still classic Tech songs about his struggles and his feelings, but the mainstream doesn't want that. And he caters to that mainstream audience now.  

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