iLLtheClown said:

I'm tired of giving respect when it comes to music. Motherfucker your music is shit yet you tour a shit load. Doesn't add up. Tech's verse on E-40s Zombie track is a perfect example of whackness. He's becoming the next KMK only more so on liquor. ICP has a real grind. They earned that respect not because of touring but because of The Gathering, Hatchet Attacks, JCW, Comics, Movies and Their stage performance. Lil' Wayne was semi respectable in '98-'01 but his music is shit now. Necro earned his respect through music. Wu-Tang through their music. Slayer, Metallica, Kool G Rap and Ill Bill as well. If your music sucks don't tour and focus on your next release. The different style argument doesn't apply anymore.

I completely agree that ICP got their grind on and now are infamous for their sets. but Metallica was a shitty example. They sould out on the black album when the lead singer took vocal lessons. And you dont gotta give respect to musicians but you cant deny that Tech's got incredible flow and has done some pretty fuckin amazing things. Yeah he put up all his videos on MTV and did that song with punk ass Wayne, but that motherfucker is talented, no doubt. And everyone changes style, it ain't nescessarily a bad thing though. they gotta expand eventually. you can only rap bout the same thing for so long. even ICP, there was a huge difference between B!P!B! and MDP content and beat wise and that was only a two or three year gap. shit changes, and no rapper gives a shit if anyone sticks with em for the changes, or at least they shouldn't.

I left a whole list of songs that don't fall under any category you listed off the top of my head.

Well I am not a super Tech N9ne Fan. I actually really didn't like his music at first. I only came around and started listening to him becuz my Woman likes listening to him, so I gave him a chance. Now I am the type of person who not only buys music but I will go out and buy all of an artists catalog that they have released just so I can listen to everything from the past to the present. So I've been down with Tech N9ne's music for about 4 or 5 years and I have almost everything he has released on CD. So from studying his past to present and do I think Tech N9ne sold out? No I don't think he has sold out. I say this becuz he duz Meet & Greets with every show and hasn't increased the price. He is sincere at all of the Meet and Greets I have attended and you can actually shake his hand and take pictures with him. He will Agnagraph wutever it is you want him to Agnagraph. He still performs at the Gathering of the Juggalos and luvs that the Juggalos still luv him and his music. So No I don't think Tech N9ne has sold out. Lets see, Game Mainstream and Bigheaded. He duzn't give a fuck about his fanbase and duzn't care wut NE1 thinks cuz he knows that there are millions of idiots who will buy his music wether or not I buy his music. Lil' Wayne Mainstream as Fuk. Luvs being on every1 else's songs cuz he thinks he's the best. He duzn't even do Meet and Greets and if he did he'd probably just have his fans stand off to the side of the Platform that he has to walk up on to to get to the Stage and that is your Meet and Greet. You get to watch him walk up the Platform to the Stage.

iLLtheClown said:

Being a hip-hop head doesn't mean loving everything hip-hop related. Fairly certain KRS-One still doesn't like Nelly. Me not liking tech n9ne is nothing as I don't like his music. He has his fans i'm just shit talking.

loooool @ the nelly thing & i never said you had to love everything like i already stated i dont like his music either but im sure even krs can cosign tech being an emcee.. although i find cats like nelly to be wack he has a decent song or 2.. techs a better rapper tho in every way shape in form so he doesnt suck

chops said:

busta is good, very good. i still think tech is better imo. twista shouls sign to strange

word.. adrenaline rush is a claaasic album