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Cops at the gathering
May 23, 2014
5:30 am
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LTB said
Wonder if that means I wont be able to get a ticket in late july.

my thoughts exactly... 

"HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN, ONCE YOU SURRENDER THE ABILITY TO PROPERLY OPERATE YOUR MIND, YOU ARE THEN SURRENDERING THE ABILITY TO BE THE SHIT. AND THAT ONLY MEANS, YOU AINT SHIT ANYMORE."-SHAGGY2DOPE

May 23, 2014
5:48 am
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and if i get to go i'm not worried about cops, i don't do drugs no more, and i generally don't act like an ass. so i think I'm set, the only problem would be it's literally one week before my 21st so un less they go around checking IDs of everyone whith a beer in their hand (Witch i highly doubt unless your belligerent) i think i can have a pretty good time. 

"HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN, ONCE YOU SURRENDER THE ABILITY TO PROPERLY OPERATE YOUR MIND, YOU ARE THEN SURRENDERING THE ABILITY TO BE THE SHIT. AND THAT ONLY MEANS, YOU AINT SHIT ANYMORE."-SHAGGY2DOPE

May 23, 2014
9:40 am
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if your worried about Cops fucking with you at the Gathering, your probably going with intent to do something you shouldn't be doing. If you go to have fun, have with Lo's and enjoy music, you shouldn't have nothing to worry about.  Cops are like Bee's, don't fuck with them and they wont sting your ass.

I'll fuck you till you love me, Faggot!

-Tyson

May 23, 2014
11:37 am
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Hey, *everything worth doing at the Gathering is "something we shouldn't be doing". The Gathering is what it is BECAUSE it isn't just a bunch of meek mannered puffballs wandering around a music festival. I get what people are saying but this straight-edge teetotaling chatter is a bunch of crap.

"Ooh, then yer not there for the fam", "Der then you're not there for the music or the right reasons", whatever.

That IS the reason why they're there. To have the time they wanna have with their "fam" that aren't supposed to judge them or give them shit until they become a problem or affect someone *else's good time!

Like I said in another thread, WEED IS DRUGS/DABS IS DRUGS.... Don't play bullshit games with other people's moral compass just cuz yours doesn't point in the same direction. An' not fer nuthin' but the same people that will be eyeballing us for the things you wanna give the stinkeye about are also watching what you have in your cups and bottles and who you're handing them to.

Have your IDs ready homie and don't associate with people outside your age range cuz we're ALL suspect now. Make sure you keep your rightious indignation for other people's shit in a clear cup so "they" can make sure you're not feeding it to anyone under age...

"Judge not lest blah blah blah..."

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May 23, 2014
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As long as the sticky icky and a few shrooms are on Deck,Ill be straight...Fuck all them other drugs,Prescription Pills got all these kids brains fried to a crisp like walkin zombies.Last Gathering I went too,That bridge looked like some shit out of a George Romero flick.18

May 23, 2014
8:02 pm
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From Hatchet Herald:

What’s up, ninjas?

As always, this is going to be a shoot.

I wanted to take some time to address the recent article that came out concerning this year’s Gathering of the Juggalos. First, I wanted to say that you have no idea how hard it is to make the Gathering happen each year. The incredible amount of work and personal sacrifice it takes to make it all come together is unfathomable to say the least. Hopsin mentions in a few of his songs that he “threw his life away” to make it and I can totally relate to what he’s talking about. It usually takes that level of dedication to make it great at anything in the music world and working on the Gathering is no different.

Due to the irrational fear the outside world holds for us, there are literally only a handful of places across the nation that would even host the Gathering. The main reason for this is because of the FBI unfairly labeling Juggalos a gang, which has caused us immense problems.  When we found Crybaby Campground (aka Harlequin Park) in Kaiser, MO we were elated because we found someone open minded enough to allow us into their home. However, when the town rose up against the land owners with a petition and threatened to boycott their business, it was too much for them to bear and so they pulled the plug. It was one of the lowest points of my life personally.  I felt that I had let everyone down because I found that location to begin with. However, I can fully relate to the hardship the people at Crybaby Campground had to endure, because we as Juggalos live with it every day.

Now at this point we had spent mad time and resources gearing up to have the Gathering in Kaiser, MO to only find ourselves suddenly scrambling for a new location. We had many suggestions sent in from private landowners (some of whom were Juggalos) to outdoor music venues to state parks. However, every time we started to try to move forward in a serious way with a location, suddenly the people weren’t returning our phone calls or just outright backed down. Still we refused to give up; in fact, failure was never an option.

Then Legend Valley suddenly came along. Someone sent me a link to it and I contacted the landowner, who unbeknownst to me had already contacted our CEO Billy Bill. We went down there and sure enough it was the perfect spot for the Gathering.  Steve, the owner, told us how he had been to a Gathering before and how he is super supportive of our family and hosting the event. He fully understands that there is no reason to fear Juggalos because he understands us and what we represent. In fact, he feels that us being oppressed as a people is straight bullshit. His open-mindedness was key to even having a Gathering this year, seeing as we had so little time left to organize one.

Legend Valley was perfect in every way with only one drawback – He told us that he has always maintained a good relationship with the Sherriff’s department and has always allowed them onto his property for every event he hosts. We asked him if he would make an exception and we talked about it over the following weeks. We tried to come up with options such as allowing them on the grounds with an escort (which is what we did at Nelson Ledges Quarry Park) or keeping them close by in the parking lot to be pulled in if we needed them, but found in the end that it was non-negotiable and was simply the way he chooses to run his events there. So seeing as we were out of time with regards to finding a location this year we had to make the hard choice, so Legend Valley it was.

Now I am not sure if ninjas new to the scene realize this, but there have been more than a few Gatherings that have had a Sherriff’s presence before. In fact, the Gathering of the Juggalos at Frontier Ranch back in 2006 had the exact same Sheriff’s department on the grounds that will be at this year’s Gathering. I have recently talked to the Colonel of the Sherriff’s department and he told me he is not expecting any problems at the Gathering this year because he had none back in 2006. He fully understands that Juggalos are coming to have fun and his people are not there to arbitrarily give ninjas the bone.

So with the hand we were dealt and against seemingly insurmountable odds, we then went ahead and started to book one of the greatest lineups we have ever had at the Gathering – period. On the logistics side of things, it continues to be an upstream struggle as we swim against all those that try to hold our family back, but yet we continually prevail! I personally have had more than a few doors slammed in my face from companies we need to work with each year to make the Gathering happen; everything from tent rental to porta-potty companies. But in the end, if I dug deep enough, there seemed to always be one willing to work with us. It seems the Dark Carnival always finds a way to keep things rolling on.

I can’t tell you how proud I am of our Psychopathic team to turn everything around from the utter defeat of losing our location in Kaiser, MO to the supreme victory of producing what could be one of the greatest Gatherings we have ever had. All the while we remain fueled by the love and support of our Juggalo family. This love is the only thing that makes it worth the sacrifices we all make daily because we don’t want to ever let our family down out of the love we have for them.

So now it seems we have a few Juggalos spreading fear amongst our family, who to me seem no better than the citizens of Kaiser who let fear grip them to the point of irrationality. This is such a hard pill for me to swallow. I understand why outside forces would be consumed in fear and let it get the best of them but I have no idea why Juggalos would allow the same fear to rule them. Is there going to be police on the outside harassing Juggalos on the way in? Yes. But is this honestly any different than any other year? Has that not been status quo for the last seven years at Hog Rock? It’s the same kind of bullshit that we as a family have to deal with on a daily basis. Why would any ninja bow down now and let anyone stop them from having the greatest time of the year amongst our family?

I also wanted to take a moment to address the capacity situation. We have structured the Gathering this year to accommodate 6,000, which is a number we based on the attendance of last year. However, the property at Legend Valley is 120 acres (which can hold about 50,000 people) and there are options for us to expand if it goes beyond 6,000. I have talked to Steve in length about this when we were first booking Legend Valley. He has done events there with well over 40,000 people and I guarantee that there is plenty of room for everyone to attend the Gathering this year and no one will be turned away. So far ticket sales are higher than where we were at last year at this time, so we will see if we indeed need to take these steps.

In closing I wanted to end with the following statements:

I know some ninjas were expressing their opinions on the Gathering flyer we put out and are upset that Twiztid, Boondox, ABK etc. are not on it. This to me is just fucking ridiculous. That flyer has been the same format for the last few years. It has no Psychopathic related artists on it (except ICP because they are hosting it) because you know they are going to be there. The Gathering flyers are intended to showcase the unknown and variable talent we are bringing in each year that is outside the family (not to mention it’s impossible to fit everyone on one poster). If that was a mistake, then so be it.  It honestly was not any attempt to belittle the fact that any Psychopathic related artists are going to be there.

In closing, I truly feel that this is going to be one of the best Gatherings ever. We have an incredible line up set in an all new location of freshness. Everyone we are working with for the Gathering this year seems mad fuckin’ cool, from Steve the property owner, the security, EMS and yes, even the Sheriff’s department (I can’t vouch for the Ohio State Highway Patrol who will be on the outside). Ticket sales are higher than where we were at last year and at least ninjas won’t have to deal with the bridge this year. There are plenty of hotels nearby along with mad other businesses and there is excellent cell phone reception and Wi-Fi internet access. We remain hard at work up here day and night insuring we put together the best setting possible for our family reunion. We have mad love for all you ninjas and feel that each and every one of you is worthy of all of our blood, sweat and tears. Believe me when I say we wouldn’t work as hard as we do for anyone else on the planet.

I look forward to seeing you all at the Gathering this year, which will truly be epic in every way!

May 23, 2014
9:44 pm
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For the record, because I don't want people to get the wrong idea,

I am a member of, contributor and contributor *to several harm reduction and education organizations such as DanceSafe, Bluelight, Erowid, BunkPolice and NeuroSoup. I am a staunch anti-prohibitionist. I support decriminalization that includes prostitution and gambling. I approve of all kinds of *educated* -ADULT- entertainment.

And on a personal note, a few years ago my estranged father died from complications of a meth induced stroke he had a couple years prior. But I'll spare the broken home sob story for when we're all "sharing".

Meth, opiates and prescription medications are the scourge of the world and are NOT in any way being defended by *me. But in the other hand, every time I see a 3minute commercial for some anti-depressant with 10seconds of results and 2minutes and 50seconds of side effects, I'm like, "Just smoke a damn bowl!"

I don't judge people's choices until they begin to affect their lives and those around them. As Mick Jagger once said, "It's alright letting yourself go, as long as you can get yourself back". I'm not writing to condone ANYONE's use of ANY drugs but there *is such a thing as "responsible use". When people throw out the "...or those ones there just to do drugs" diatribes, I guess you've never gone to EPCOT *just to do the "Around the World" and get blitzed on giant carafes of beer you buy in each of the countries or *just gone to Disney tripping. Weed is drugs. Alcohol is drugs. Just because your chosen vice is "more acceptable" than the next guy's, doesn't mean you're not both there for the same equally well-meaning reasons, ie. TO HAVE FUN.

Nobody wants to see zombies (until the apocalypse) but shaming is not gonna do it. Splitting hairs about *this substance or *that one isn't gonna do it either. I don't get people wanting to walk around all sleepy an' shit at something so exciting myself. Maybe get them to take a nap or get them out of the sun... I dunno, give them a different choice.

Educate yourself and your friends. Look out for them and those around you. There's no such thing as "safe" or "better". Like Mick said, "...as long as you can get yourself back".

 

And PS, Titties an' that neden have destroyed more lives than anything else out there. Act like ya know. Protect yoself at *all times.

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May 23, 2014
11:03 pm
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Your heart is cracked.

May 23, 2014
11:35 pm
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I hope the cops bust and arrest all the the fake ass fam. with meth, crack, heroin, ice, needles, N-bomb and whatever, besides weed! FUCK UR DRUG BRIDGE !!!

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May 24, 2014
1:29 am
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FUCK THE POLICE

May 24, 2014
6:11 am
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Sean Law said
if your worried about Cops fucking with you at the Gathering, your probably going with intent to do something you shouldn't be doing. If you go to have fun, have with Lo's and enjoy music, you shouldn't have nothing to worry about.  Cops are like Bee's, don't fuck with them and they wont sting your ass.

couldn't have said it better myself.

and i do believe as an educated adult you should have the right to poison your own body any way you deem fit. but there is always a time and a place and especially with cops roaming around you best be able to make the right decision on when and where you decide to use your preferred poison.

"HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN, ONCE YOU SURRENDER THE ABILITY TO PROPERLY OPERATE YOUR MIND, YOU ARE THEN SURRENDERING THE ABILITY TO BE THE SHIT. AND THAT ONLY MEANS, YOU AINT SHIT ANYMORE."-SHAGGY2DOPE

May 24, 2014
10:29 am
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Cheshyr said
I guess you've never gone to EPCOT *just to do the "Around the World" and get blitzed on giant carafes of beer you buy in each of the countries...

 

Actually, I have ;-)

 

-Jules ºOº

May 24, 2014
10:42 am
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If I cant Openenly smoke my weed without worryin about sum shitty cop arresstin my ass...I gotta pass on the Gathering this year..Aint worth the 800 miles and couple grand id blow on it anyways...60% of my gathering adventure is roamin the grounds tryin out differnt strains from all over the world son.I feel like cops bein all over the place is gunna kill that vibe

May 24, 2014
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I openly smoked in front of whomever at the 2006 GOTJ.  My boy got his head cracked open by a tiki torch and while I was helping him to the EMT tent (which was directly next to the police section) a sack with a little over a quarter in it fell out in plain sight of three police officers.  I hate the cops....but  Im just sayin.

"Somewhere theres a Waffle House thats severely understaffed right now" -OCJ to Scruffy watching a second stage act at the Gathering.

May 24, 2014
11:38 am
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In 2006 the cops gave no problems. They actually were smiling almost every time I saw em.

 

Funny thing tho, the only year with uniformed patrolled cops, was the only year my tent ever got robbed

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May 24, 2014
9:35 pm
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I think a more tangible line of questioning might be:

Will THIS even be possible at this year's Gathering?

 

 

 

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May 24, 2014
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with all the cops, this year, will I be able 2 overdose on my N-Bomb?

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May 25, 2014
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I would just fucking do karate on the cop man!

Noah Fence is a RACIST piece of shit and so are you if you support him. No excuses.

May 25, 2014
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Cheshyr said
 

I think a more tangible line of questioning might be:

Will THIS even be possible at this year's Gathering?
 

Most likely.

As somebody who's been around the festival scene a time or two, where they frequently allow cops into grounds, typically weed isn't an issue unless you go up and blow it in a cops face. I can't count how many times I've had a bowl burning as cops rolled by, looked at it, and kept going. If they were cuffing everyone who toked up, they'd be left with about twenty people at the festival, an overflowing jail, and enough paperwork to make them want to kill themselves.

Cheshyr, you're seriously overreacting to this one. To the point where you, yourself, have turned into what it seems you dislike most: a fear-monger.

May 25, 2014
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I one time monged a fear.

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