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May 22, 2012

alien was, and is, classic. great film.
aliens isnt a film, its a movie. buts its a pretty damn good movie.
alien3, lotta people dislike, but i think its mostly as effective as the first two. just different.
now, we come to resurrection and avp, which i hated. made me give up on the franchise.
but then, comes prometheus…
Whoop Whoop scruffy :
Nyroawfully paranoid, arent you?
10:03 pm
July 27, 2012

Potato-tan said
@Neverthrive prefers the AvP, himself.
I love these movies so fucking much, they’re so goooooood.
TNG was more my jam, personally.
Okay, that’s… partly true. I’ve really only seen Alien so far, haven’t gotten around to the rest yet. And I will admit that AVP is really just an objectively bad movie, but I still dig it. The sequel is a flaming pile shit, though. I have no love for Requiem.
10:10 pm
February 23, 2016

scruffy said
alien was, and is, classic. great film.aliens isnt a film, its a movie. buts its a pretty damn good movie.
alien3, lotta people dislike, but i think its mostly as effective as the first two. just different.
now, we come to resurrection and avp, which i hated. made me give up on the franchise.
but then, comes prometheus…
Alien was basically a slasher in space.
Alien 2 explored Ripley, the mother.
Alien 3 explored Ripley, the fighter.
Alien Resurrection was Ripley, the inhuman.
In Alien she just wants to survive, and in 2 she fought to protect her loved ones. In 3 it was to end the horror, once and for all.
By the end of Ellen Ripley’s life, she has become a host to the very things which plagued her nightmares. And even in death, she isn’t granted rest
All the clone ever knew was the worst parts of Ellen Ripley’s existence.
But in the end, there is redemption for the queen mother…
10:22 pm
February 23, 2016

Neverthrive said
Okay, that’s… partly true. I’ve really only seen Alien so far, haven’t gotten around to the rest yet. And I will admit that AVP is really just an objectively bad movie, but I still dig it. The sequel is a flaming pile shit, though. I have no love for Requiem.
I’ve never seen AvP.
Alien is too precious for this world kawaii desu
10:32 pm
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May 22, 2012

Potato-tan said
Alien was basically a slasher in space.
i give points for historical significance. when alien was new, slasher movies were barely a thing, and nothing like alien had been done.
in fact, the slasher genre has always borrowed heavily from alien. alien set the standard in two genres, and for a while.
its kinda like night of the living dead. show that movie to a millennial, they will piss all over it, sure. but in 1960-whenever, that shit was wig-peelingly raw.
Alien 2 explored Ripley, the mother.
in the original, theatrical edition, not so much. but thats easy to draw from it, still.
Alien Resurrection was Ripley, the inhuman.
…
All the clone ever knew was the worst parts of Ellen Ripley’s existence.
i barely remember resurrection. mostly i remember being severely disappointed. lotta eye rolling.
for one, i hate movies with what i call xerox clones in em, where they are exact copies of the actor character, scars and memories and haircut and all. if we have the technology to do that, then we should be able to do all kinds of shit. basicly, we would be functionally immortal.
avp was loaded with canon breaks. its like it was written by some kid who never saw alien or predator, but did at least read the back of the vhs boxes…
awfully paranoid, arent you?
10:59 pm
February 23, 2016

@scruffy
Alien Resurrection was the first Alien movie I ever saw, so it earns a lot of nostalgia points despite being objectively weak.
The bizarre mother-child theme surrounding Ripley!clone and the human-alien hybrid was an interesting spin on the motherhood theme.
First she is the mother who has lost her child — beginning of Aliens.
Then she is the surrogate mother of Newt.
Then she again becomes the grieving mother, when she loses Newt, while also being the unwilling mother of her own nightmares.
In Resurrection, she is both the unwilling mother and the surrogate to the monster that she herself is slowly becoming. When she is forced to kill it — for the good of everyone — she is remorseful, and once again she is the grieving mother.
In the end, Analee becomes both a surrogate for all of Ripley’s lost “daughters,”as well as for Bishop.
Plus, I just love Winona Rhyder.
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