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New Twiztid interview. Criticisms.
March 10, 2019
9:35 pm
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Actually, while that article with user posted comments I gave a link to on post #34 is good, THIS is the one I meant to put up for you, Kreyz.

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/2017/12/insane-clown-posse-juggalos-lose-appeals-court-fight/

 

Mainly because I show CPN acting like a fool again, making a big deal out of a 2008 memo from the Salt Lake City FIELD OFFICE of the FBI. In other words, what one state is bitching about three years before the FBI NGIC list is NOT damning all Juggalos nationwide as actual or potential gang members. Hence, it means NOTHING!

 

Comment posted on 1 year ago at 2:59 pm

Oh and by the way, does anyone remember CPN making a big deal out of this 2008 internal FBI memo where a few officers decided on their own Juggalos were a gang? And this was proof that a gang list existed?
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2013/mar/07/fbi-reveals-why-it-labeled-insane-clown-posse-gang/
Turns out the memo was issued in Salt Lake City, Utah in 2008. This is one of the states that had enough Juggalo shit going on that they labeled Juggalos a gang. This was not a federal, nationwide document. This was a localized, internal memo confined to ONE STATE. This Salt Lake City FBI 2008 internal memo is not a federal gang list. DUH!

 

CPN makes mountains out of molehills and doesn’t understand what he reads most of the time. LOL.

No matter how many times you throw a statewide Salt Lake City field office of the FBI document (2008), or a nationwide NGIC report (2011) in Twiztid’s face, they’re just gonna look at you and say, “yeah so what? Where are all Juggalos damned nationwide? Where are they equated with real dangerous gangs like MS-13? Where does it tell city and state police to fuck with Juggalos and arrest them all for being gang members without evidence and to violate their constitutional rights, or to take their kids away in a divorce case? It’s not in there.” They’ll probably also ask you why you didn’t notice the footnote “e” at the end of the report saying that Juggalos are mainly music fans. As in, the majority of them are not mainly gang members. Gee, isn’t that the kind of admission you guys always wanted out of them? Well it’s right there. The FBI covered their ass. The local and state cops abused this report and tricked Juggalos into blaming the FBI instead of the cops who misread and abused the report for their own personal gain. And the Juggalos fell for it.  And now they are falsely accusing Twiztid of turning their backs on Juggalos. They’re even talking about boycotting their shows and gloating about low attendance at Twiztid shows. All because they didn’t read the report themselves and are falling for stupid arguments by the likes of CPN who is clearly very superficial in his research.

March 10, 2019
9:53 pm
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@vinyllover I sent you a PM

March 10, 2019
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I don’t fuck with Twiztid or anything MNE anymore. Monoxide is so full of shit. No disses from them? Hmmmmm. “Down With Us”, “Down Here” and so on? Every album that Twiztid puts out now has a diss on it. All the fucked up shit Monoxide says on periscope? SKIPPING OUT ON THE MARCH??!! Are they noticing a decline in sales or something? I feel like they are backpedaling now, because all the stupid shit they’ve said probably is hurting sales. Just my Speculation. 

"I Just Wanna Hide Inside My Own Private Hell"- Boondox

March 11, 2019
3:33 am
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Blah blah blah…

Ranting…

Ranting…

Blah blah blah!

Was the March for publicity???

Possibly a little… Who fuckin cares?

Instead of focusing on “we were never on a gang list they’re lyin!”cry

how bout…  juggalos went through a gang assessment, and it came back “oh ok theyre not”…

Then cops start 2 spot  hatchetman patches & stickers around town…

“Hey isn’t that the juggalo gang thing we just heard about”? 

BOOOM!!! RIGHT THERE!

The fact it even got pushed that hard caused a lot a ripples in people’s lives who didnt deserve it. 

As soon as the FUCKIN FBI sent out a NATIONWIDE assessment, juggalos were automatically fucked. 

OUR HATCHETMAN pride made us targets… Without warning OUR badge mentally coincided with gang relation.

Maybe not every Lo got cop trouble for SUPPORTING THEIR FAVORITE BANDS LOGO that got mistakenly taken for gang contraband…  Wait?

It got ASSESSED…RIGHT?

To me, the March should have been directed towards the unFUCKIN NECESSARY juggalo discrimination…

WHO ARENT ON THE GANG LIST BY THE WAY…

And 4 real I don’t care if it was 1 Lo who’s life got messed  up or if all of us got hit…

I won’t just stand there… TURN MY BACK and be like meh it’s only a couple juggalos it’s not me…

Imma stand up for my people bitch…

Cuz it ain’t right. 

That is all.

I’m done.

Saltfree.    cheers

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March 11, 2019
5:45 am
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jiggles the clown said
I said from the very beginning that the March was just a way for J to try to flex his ego and he’s just got his panties in a twist that nobody wanted to help him live out his fantasies.

It’s the same reason the young wicked problem even exists. Samantha is a grown ass woman, YW is a grown ass man. They’re able to make their own fucking choices, their own fucking mistakes, etc. J is just fucking mad because he wants to pretend he’s the big boss don. YW fucking Samantha proves that he isn’t in control and thats why it pisses him off.  

If you go back to the Juggalo Show where they talked about this issue. Jumpsteady agrees with you about them both being adults who can make their own choices.

The reason they fired him was because he lied to his face about it for some time like a weak bitch and he had to find out about it from somebody else.

Aside from the fact that he was cheating on his baby Mumma that he claimed he owed his life too for helping him and staying with him through all his addiction issues and Jumpsteady would have liked someone better than a two faced lying cheater for his daughter.

The end.

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March 11, 2019
10:23 am
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Radam said

If you go back to the Juggalo Show where they talked about this issue. Jumpsteady agrees with you about them both being adults who can make their own choices.

The reason they fired him was because he lied to his face about it for some time like a weak bitch and he had to find out about it from somebody else.

Aside from the fact that he was cheating on his baby Mumma that he claimed he owed his life too for helping him and staying with him through all his addiction issues and Jumpsteady would have liked someone better than a two faced lying cheater for his daughter.

The end.  

jumpsteady might’ve. But I’m not talking about Jump. Jump always seemed like a good dude.

J comes off as an insecure control freak with delusions of grandeur.

March 11, 2019
5:34 pm
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Maybe we’ll never understand the pressures of being a creative genius whose imagination started a whole movement of people that so many snakes have used to exploit it for their own gain without really appreciating what it took to create such a loyal and established fan base of their own.

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March 11, 2019
5:46 pm
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Wonder how much y’alls feathers will be ruffled by whatever they say on their upcoming interview with Adam22 on the No Jumper Podcast

March 11, 2019
6:02 pm
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Radam said
Maybe we’ll never understand the pressures of being a creative genius whose imagination started a whole movement of people that so many snakes have used to exploit it for their own gain without really appreciating what it took to create such a loyal and established fan base of their own.  

Yeah. Because that has so much to do with him getting upset that HE felt disrespected that someone on his labeled fucked somebody ELSES daughter without him knowing it.

March 11, 2019
6:16 pm
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That 

Hypnotized Ninja said
Wonder how much y’alls feathers will be ruffled by whatever they say on their upcoming interview with Adam22 on the No Jumper Podcast  

That was dropped a few weeks ago homie. 

March 12, 2019
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jiggles the clown said

Yeah. Because that has so much to do with him getting upset that HE felt disrespected that someone on his labeled fucked somebody ELSES daughter without him knowing it.  

Well it kinda does, because J did everything he could to help Otis with his career and he lied to him and his brother about what was really going on. They trusted him and treated him like real family and he ruined all of that by lying about something he really didn’t need to lie about.

J deserves more respect, he is literally the main creative force behind the whole Juggalo culture. When he dies, Psychopathic dies, everything will turn to shit. No one could even come close to replacing him, not even Twiztid or some kind of super group with Shaggy, Twiztid, Blaze, Boondox and ABK.

Once J goes it’s all over.

March 12, 2019
8:42 am
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LOOK. J WANTED OTIS TO “BECOME FAMILY” HE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON

HE WAS TRYING TO “BREED” THE NEXT GENERATION OF PSYCHOPATHIC, BY COMBINING YOUNG WICKED DNA WITH MYZERY 

DNA. 

J DID NOT REALIZE HIS BROTHER WAS GOING TO GET PISSED. ALSO WIGGLER GOING WITH TWIZZLER MADE PSYCHOPATHIC 

CATCH RIVAL GANG HEAT FROM MYZERY’S LOW LIFE POSSE. NOW J TRYING TO PLAY IT OFF LIKE IT WAS ALL A BIG SUPRISE.

HE KNEW ABOUT THE “INTER-MINGLING” HOW COULD HE NOT!! RIGHT?

TOO BAD BECAUSE YOUNG WIGGLER ACTUALLY GOT ICP TO MAKE GOOD MUSIC AGAIN..

March 12, 2019
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Radam said

Well it kinda does, because J did everything he could to help Otis with his career and he lied to him and his brother about what was really going on. They trusted him and treated him like real family and he ruined all of that by lying about something he really didn’t need to lie about.

That depends on whos side of the story you believe.

 

J deserves more respect, he is literally the main creative force behind the whole Juggalo culture. When he dies, Psychopathic dies, everything will turn to shit. No one could even come close to replacing him, not even Twiztid or some kind of super group with Shaggy, Twiztid, Blaze, Boondox and ABK.

Once J goes it’s all over.  

Look. I love J as an artist. He’s an amazing storyteller, and he knows what he’s doing on the creative side of things. that’s true. But I think he needs to step down from the business side of things, let someone else run that part of the show. He has a huge ego and takes business shit way too personally, and the way he handles psychopathic proves that. Look at how many people have been signed and then immediately fell off. Look at how he handles people like Lyte. He’s a great artist, but he’s shit at running a record label.

 

and no. “psychopathic records is X years old” isn’t proof that he’s running a successful label when its popularity is built entirely on ICP. That just means he knows how to manage ICP.

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March 12, 2019
1:47 pm
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Pigg said
That 

That was dropped a few weeks ago homie.   

Nah I know about that, I was talking about Twiztid’s upcoming interview with No Jumper

March 12, 2019
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jiggles the clown said

J comes off as an insecure control freak with delusions of grandeur.  

That’s both J and Monoxide.

Nobody’s perfect, everybody does some shady fuck shit at least once. Don’t put these guys so high above yourself that you’re disappointed when they act as imperfect as any of us.

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March 12, 2019
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If psychopathic records failed because violent j was no longer around to run the label then psychopathic is a failure as a business. 

March 12, 2019
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King Lucem Ferre said

That’s both J and Monoxide.

Nobody’s perfect, everybody does some shady fuck shit at least once. Don’t put these guys so high above yourself that you’re disappointed when they act as imperfect as any of us.  

I don’t. But just because they’re imperfect humans doesn’t mean you should just ignore the fucked up shit they do and pretend like they’re flawless geniuses who aren’t equally responsible for the bad things that happen to them as the other party involved.

 

What young wicked did was fucked up, mostly because I have no sympathy or respect for cheaters. But the way J handled it was more akin to a child throwing a tantrum because mommy said that play time was over than a mature business man doing what was best for the company.

 

Same with his reaction to twiztid not attending the march. I get why he’s angry about that, but it was a shitshow from the top down, extremely mismanaged, and calling people “little hitler” is just extremely immature.

March 12, 2019
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chops said
If psychopathic records failed because violent j was no longer around to run the label then psychopathic is a failure as a business.   

Well it’s going to be hard to run a business when it’s mostly based on the creativity of one person.

March 13, 2019
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jiggles the clown said

I don’t. But just because they’re imperfect humans doesn’t mean you should just ignore the fucked up shit they do and pretend like they’re flawless geniuses who aren’t equally responsible for the bad things that happen to them as the other party involved.

 

What young wicked did was fucked up, mostly because I have no sympathy or respect for cheaters. But the way J handled it was more akin to a child throwing a tantrum because mommy said that play time was over than a mature business man doing what was best for the company.

 

Same with his reaction to twiztid not attending the march. I get why he’s angry about that, but it was a shitshow from the top down, extremely mismanaged, and calling people “little hitler” is just extremely immature.  

No, the problem is that people tend to hold them more accountable than they would hold people they actually know or even themselves. It happens to every celebrity.

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