Noah Fence said 

... Oh and again if psyral "only takes things literally" then why does he listen to songs about murdering people. We should all be very afraid. Oh. Right.   

 @noah-fence , I interpret what I perceive literally. I consider entertainment as literally as possible down to the base. It is entertainment.
Interpreting something literally does not equate to the interpreted content being a command. Even if I am interpreting a command literally, my decision to follow or not follow the command comes down to my choice. I could have thought I went through this several pages back but I can't find it. Maybe I didn't. I probably only thought about it when someone else brought up the same argument.

Noah Fence said 
... Even if you say it's just entertainment, that means you're entertained by the thought of people being viciously murdered. Sometimes for no reason. 

Just because I classify something as entertainment does not mean I am entertained by it. I would suspect that there are some forms of entertainment that you do not find entertaining.

...Now, if you think (like most of us) that the stories have subtext, layers of meaning, humor/ satire, and exaggerations meant to provide catharsis for the listener I would totally agree. But to hear a song like blacken yo eyes and to be like "man these guys are awesome they really tell it like it is" is a frightening prospect.  

That is not how I think. I can interpret the literal meaning of lyrics and decide to not like it. That is not one of the songs I like. The same goes for Trump. There are something that he says that I do not like. Just because I interpret something literally does not mean I like it or condone it.

King Lucem Ferre said
No, you have jumped through hoops. You're defending a politician, despite his flaws, from doing things you'd have scrutinized any Democrat for purely out of spite of the other side. You flat out admit that you only support him because he's not the other side. You flat out admit to watching Fox News because they they tell you biased lies that make you feel good.

Really, I cannot find my post where I said I watch Fox News because they tell me biased lies. I did find a post, though, where I said I watched them because I liked what they say. I am also glad that more people are watching Fox news every day. The latest ratings show:
•Total day: FNC: 1,708 | CNN: 852 | MSNBC: 1,371 | HLN: 233
•Primetime: FNC: 2,781 | CNN: 1,177 | MSNBC: 2,515 | HLN: 269

And, again, the fact that you equate your understanding of computer logic to normal logic proves that you lack the logical comprehension in the real world. If you really understand logic so well then you wouldn't take everything a human being says literally. Like I fucking told you, Trump was trying to take credit for Obama's success and you denied it because the statement wasn't literal until he made the literal statement. Everybody knew what he was saying, and it wasn't JUST common sense, it was a logical conclusion based on the understanding of human behavior, and most importantly, based on the immature and predictable nature of Donald Trump.

I never equated any two types of logic. I made a distinction of the type of logic I use. And I have never heard of "normal logic". I have heard of syllogistic, propositional, predicate, modal, mathematical, philosophical, and computational logic but never "normal" logic. And I still don't understand your use of "logical conclusion". You seem to speak of inference and deduction, not logic - at least not in the sense that logic was defined in any of my logic classes in college.

Why I know you don't care about persuading anybody? Because of flat out said that you'd support a Republican that you know would be worse than the Democratic choice because you could never support a Democrat. Which is also how I know you don't care about the well being of this country.

I do care about the country. And you are now taking me literally even when I attempt humor. Many of those types of post have " :P " in them to denote humor. Maybe I should forgo the " :P " and just state "This is attempted humor" when I make such statements.

On top of that, if you really wanted to convince anybody then you'd try to segregate yourself from the others in your camp. Or at least tell your wife to tone it down. Because she's the one that flings the most shit. She's the one who's always resorting to memes and insults wayyyyyy back when it used to be a much more civilized discussion. Ya'll talk about how bad Noah is, well fuck, at least he's provided thoughtful dialogue that wasn't some hate baiting propaganda bullshit. Perfectly honest, I doubt any outsider is going to come in here with a new perspective from any of you. The only people you're truly speaking to and having an impact on are those that already agreed with you in the first place. Everybody else just thinks we're a bunch of savages. Also, I know damn well that explanation was a cop out. Just like your "I take everything literal" comment. I've said it before, but I'm not dumb enough to believe the guy married to somebody as sarcastic as Krunk takes everything literal.  

If you want the statistics on that, I can provide the numbers. She and I were attacked before either of us ever decided to "fight back". And the direct personal attacks vs just attacks on ideology will also show that the attacks against us are generally direct and personal. Our "attacks" trend towards the ideological attacks. You can find exceptions on both sides but the pattern leans in the direction I stated.

I have tried to avoid what you call "hate baiting propaganda" but if I have resorted to that, I appologize. And maybe, as you say, you are "not dumb enough to believe the guy married to somebody as sarcastic as Krunk takes everything literal." but your belief does not represent my reality and the way I think. You are still claiming you "know". How do you "know" how I think? Is it not based on the way your mind thinks, making your views of my thinking process the result of your own? I cannot understand how a person can know how another person thinks. Maybe it is possible, but for me, with the way I think, it is not.

King Lucem Ferre said

I'm not going to argue because a lot of it is complete and utter bullshit and you know it. For the record, you did say that you know Fox News lies and you did say that you still watch it because they tell you what you want to hear....

I absolutely did NOT say that -> https://faygoluvers.net/v5/foru.....2/#p177639

That is where YOU said that is what I do. You incorrectly deduced what I was thinking again.