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CPN is still an idiot who doesn't understand the FBI "gang list"
July 15, 2018
7:46 pm
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vinyllover said     

Bonesaw Wizardstick said     
It’s actually on behalf of people who say stupid shit like what I put in bold from your comment.  Why is that necessary?  Other than to keep the drama alive, I mean.    
Riiiiight….it isn’t.  People like you are the problem and have been since everything started.      

vinyllover said
Twiztid never needed to be forgiven for not attending any march. They never made a faux pas. The faux pas was on behalf of the 17%ers that don’t know how to read and understand government documents and then hurling bogus accusations against Twiztid about so called betrayal of Juggalos.  

You forgot to bold those parts.      

um.  

yeah…  so.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

July 15, 2018
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vinyllover said

You forgot to bold those parts.  

Hey, why don’t you put up a poll to support your argument?  I know you enjoy talking in circles and only listening to what you want to hear, but a poll would give you the definitive answer that you so desperately desire.  Be sure to include a “none of the above” option for Scruffy.

Whoop whoop Bonesaw Wizardstick :

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July 15, 2018
7:57 pm
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said      
Be sure to include a “none of the above” option for Scruffy.      

¡gracias!  

Whoop whoop scruffy :

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  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

July 15, 2018
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scruffy said

¡gracias!    

de nada

March 21, 2019
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CPN fucks up hard YET AGAIN! I swear this guy is a fucking moron. He is as bad at reading comprehension as those same police that claimed the list damned every Juggalo as a potential or actual gang member in the United States of America.

Two main arguments:

1. Paul and Jamie are wrong to say the list was just the FBI looking at them to determine if they were a serious gang threat or not because in order for that to work, CPN says the FBI would have to be unsure if Bloods, Crips, MS-13, and Latin Kings were considered a national gang. WRONG FAT BOY! You want proof? Check the 2009 and 2007 reports. Those four national gangs are on there. JUGGALOS ARE NOT. What does that mean? That the FBI ALREADY KNEW in 2011 those four were national gangs BECAUSE THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN ON PREVIOUS LISTS AND WERE STILL COMMITTING CRIMES UP TO 2011. Juggalos are NOWHERE TO BE FOUND on those earlier lists. THAT IS WHY Twiztid is correct to say the FBI was taking it’s first look at the Juggalos. You dumbass!

 

2. CPN fucks up even harder at about 12:20 when he says the FBI declared Juggalos to be a national gang. NO THEY FUCKING DIDN’T YOU IDIOT. There are THREE TYPES OF GANGS in the 2011 report. National, neighborhood and hybrid. Those four main gangs mentioned earlier are all NATIONAL GANGS. Juggalos are a loosely organized HYBRID gang that up to this point of 2011 are not a gang in every single state like those other four gangs are. So no, Juggalos are NOT on the same level as those four gangs, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE SAME DOCUMENT YOU FUCKING IDIOT, CPN! How come you still haven’t talked about the difference between national, neighborhood and hybrid? Why are you leaving that out? Why are you also leaving out the footnote that even Kreyz McCormik found that I showed him that says that not all Juggalos are gang member nation wide? They are primarily and a majority of the time, just music fans and that’s it.

e Juggalos are traditionally fans of the musical group the Insane Clown Posse. Arizona, California, Pennsylvania, and Utah are the only US states that recognize Juggalos as a gang.

Plus, the FBI’s lawyer confirmed their NGIC 2011 report didn’t damn every Juggalo nationwide.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/so-if-juggalos-will-never-forgive-or-support-twiztid-again/page-2/#p204268
So CPN and anyone else should stop pretending that that is what this report did and make a public apology for being wrong.

 I swear watching this guy’s videos gives me a fucking headache. HE DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT! HE IS SO STUPID! The only thing he has gotten right in the past is the railroading of Will Sigler.

March 21, 2019
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17:45 mark.

CPN brings up the same old muckracker article written in 2013. As if that proves anything. What the “document” was, was a 2008 FBI field office in Salt Lake City, Utah. In other words, CPN is trying to use a single state wide memo from 2008 as proof that the FBI declared Juggalos a nationwide gang in 2011. LOL. Oh my god he is so wrong and stupid. The 2008 list is not proof of Juggalos being a nationwide gang NOR DID THE FBI use this Utah state wide 2008 report to claim every Juggalo was a gang member in 2011. BECAUSE THAT’S NOT WHAT THE 2011 DOCUMENT SAID! All the FBI used the 2008 Utah report for in their 2011 list was CONFIRMATION that they are still a gang three years later in Utah. YOU FUCKING IDIOT!

Utah of course already declared Juggalos to be a gang so it is no surprise this document comes from Utah. 3 years before the FBI list. Hence this 2008 STATE-wide report from Utah  has nothing to do with anything federal. Hence it’s not a “gang list” that say damns every Juggalo NATION-wide. CPN doesn’t understand what he reads, if he reads at all
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/majik-ninja-entertainment/new-twiztid-interview-criticisms/page-3/#p229938

21 minute mark:
CPN makes a good point. Many law enforcement agencies were still using an outdated 2011 list as justification to harass juggalos. That could be true. This is the ONLY VALID POINT CPN has. That post 2011, Juggalos may have gotten harassed. However to this day, nobody can provide court paperwork showing the following happened in 2011 and every year after:

1. Someone lost custody of their kids in a divorce because they were a juggalo.

WHERE IS THE PAPERWORK? Where are the section 1983 lawsuits launched against local police proving ANY constitutional rights violation of someone? Does Kreyz McCormik getting pulled over, patted down and having his car searched count? Would a lawyer agree with him? All Twiztid wants is evidence. That’s all they are asking. They don’t want people’s opinions on how they THINK their rights were violated. They want actual examples and documentation.

March 21, 2019
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vinyllover said
… I swear watching this guy’s videos gives me a fucking headache. HE DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT! HE IS SO STUPID!..

Have u considered not watching any more of his stuff? Sounds like u have an amazing vinyl collection. Maybe crack open a few mint condition records and buy a clue?

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March 21, 2019
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