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Note to Mikeysnyder, 17%er
December 28, 2018
9:46 am
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Haha it’s funny how butt hurt you twizzlers get when someone points out Twiztid being the shady fucks they are, and by the looks of it your not just a twizzler but your on their payroll too. Anyway douche of course they have the right to ask for their masters back, no one said otherwise ya dumb fuck, but why does it have to be “we’re not playing the Gathering unless you cough up a master” or “nah we’re not doing another Lotus album unless you cough up another master” shady as fuck

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Psychopathic didn’t fail to make new CDs ya dumb fuck as I just said this CD was available on PsyMerch up until very recently,

They were not selling them until recently. You’re full of shit again.

Check for yourself here mikeysnider. This is a webarchive grab from August 2018.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180817165050/http://psychopathicmerch.com/catalogs/Twiztid

Here are the cd’s for sale:
8 items
Twiztid Cryptic Collection 1 Reissue $9.99
Twiztid Cryptic Collection 2 Reissue $9.99
Twiztid Heartbroken & Homicidal $9.99
Twiztid Independents Day $9.99
Twiztid Mirror Mirror $9.99
Twiztid Cryptic Collection 4 $9.99
Twiztid Jamie Madrox – Phatso $9.99

Let’s look at July 2017. A lot of repeats but some different ones.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170706155811/http://psychopathicmerch.com/catalogs/Twiztid

Twiztid Mostasteless $9.99
Twiztid Man’s Myth Vol. 1 $9.99
Twiztid Monoxide – Chainsmoker $9.99

Clearly, these were all bought up by August 2018. Now this July 2017 page is as far back as the web archive goes for Twiztid cd’s for sale from Psychopathic. So again, where is your proof that they were still selling Abominationz, WICKED, Freekshow and Green Book? THEY WEREN’T THERE EVEN BACK IN 2017! Here’s a clue. They ran out a long time ago and failed to put them back in print. THAT IS WHY TWIZTID ASKED FOR THOSE MASTERS INSTEAD OF CASH FOR PAYMENT FOR THE GATHERING. Asking for masters that THEY AREN’T FUCKING USING to put cds on the market to make money anymore anyway, is NOT extortion. It’s a deal!

Again, for you to ignore the facts about how Psychopathic stopped having copies to sell long ago, and for you to think Twiztid should let their albums die on Psychopathic because Joe and Rob Bruce are doing some kind of fuckboy shit that prevents them from putting Twiztid’s most popular albums back out there, means you’re in the wrong.

December 28, 2018
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Even if someone wants to challenge me on whether or not Psychopathic was out of cd’s of a certain album or had only a small amount left still in existence BEFORE they gave Twiztid a master to that certain album, that doesn’t change anything for one simple fact. While Twiztid was there, ICP DROPPED THE BALL on Abominationz. They didn’t promote it and didn’t print enough copies for the first run. Twiztid is allowed to read the writing on the wall, see how Psychopathic fucks up, and try to use maneuvers to try and protect at least SOME of their albums from extinction on physical format.

MS, and any other 17%er are free anytime to explain why Twiztid should suck it up and let their albums die on Psychopathic. Otherwise, they can get a clue.

December 28, 2018
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I was on the Abominationz tour bus and it was clear to me that the students had become the masters. Glad Twiztid is thriving, & hope J incinerates his midlife crisis and gets his wicked on ASAP.

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December 28, 2018
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Just for argument’s sake, @vinyllover HatchetGear morphed into Psychopathic Merch in June of 2017, which is why you don’t see previous data on the web archive.

https://faygoluvers.net/v5/2017/06/hatchetgear-re-emerges-as-psychopathicmerch-com/

I did see Madrox and Monoxide variations of Abominationz on some of the HatchetGear web archives from 2016, but I didn’t click on every snapshot between 2016 and June of 2017.  Here’s one example though:

http://web.archive.org/web/201…..d_type=234

December 28, 2018
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I appreciate the info Scottie.

My point to the others against me still stands. What justification do they have for Twiztid sitting by on the sidelines and letting their album die on psychopathic? When they left in 2013, it was obvious that Psychopathic may fuck up again in the future and not keep putting Twiztid product out there once the last batch of an album was done. Twiztid had every right to want to keep their best/most popular albums from dying on physical format. I guarantee no 17%er would say that if it looked like Island was going down the tubes and ICP could have gotten a master or two out of them for cheap or almost nothing so they could give the Juggalos some merchandise and flavour, they would be all for it. The double standards are clear. This is all about a fuck twiztid agenda just because they didn’t march. I have already exposed that nonsense in many topics so I won’t do it again here. I’m just gonna point out the obvious and hope at least some people will recognize.

December 28, 2018
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vinyllover said
Sometimes I dip my dickhead in lotion and pretend it’s Mt. Fuji

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December 28, 2018
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Bonesaw Wizardstick said

vinyllover said
Sometimes I dip my dickhead in lotion and pretend it’s Mt. Fuji

  

Made my day.

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December 28, 2018
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vinyllover said

My point to the others against me still stands.

You mean the ONE guy you called out in the title that I don’t think has ever posted on the forums, just main page?

Is this gonna turn out as another “Why can’t anyone answer my extremely specific question that no one really asked in the first place?” 

Be sure to timestamp a chuck video to prove me wrong

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Just in case this doesn’t get posted here.

 

 

Comment posted on 1 hour ago at 10:11 pm

With all the shit Violent J has done to Twiztid in the past, these being a few examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbn7oWydxmE

I’m perfectly fine with Twiztid putting a finger in the eye of Joe Bruce by doing this type of shit if that is their intention. Saying “fuck Twiztid for not marching” when the march was stupid to begin with because Juggalos can’t read a government document properly
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/so-if-juggalos-will-never-forgive-or-support-twiztid-again/
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/cpn-is-still-an-idiot-who-doesnt-understand-the-fbi-gang-list/
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/majik-ninja-entertainment/kreyz-mccormik-on-twiztid-and-the-gang-list-mar-12-2019/
just makes me laugh. Mikey and other 17%rs getting their knickers in a knot makes me laugh. Twiztid wanting to do their own thing means whatever they want to do without the dictator J. Bruce telling them what to do and fucking them out of hundreds of thousands of dollars, failing to keep their albums in physical print, thus causing them to negotiate to get masters back that Joe Bruce wasn’t fucking using ANYWAY as seen here [ https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/note-to-mikeysnyder-17er/ ] , and also getting wasted on drugs and assaulting them. And since this group is part of Twiztid’s legacy and they have 3 of the 5 original members, you 17%rs can just sit back and take it. Tough fuckin’ shit. I’m with Chuck Reeves. Bring back Triple Threat, but do a mixtape under the name “Lotus” and call it “Majority Rules.”

November 29, 2019
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They have 50% of “Original” members. Blaze wasn’t in the original version of Lotus.

 

Also you sound like a bitch.

 

Double also, hop of Chuck’s bearded nuts.

 

Finally, Mikey is never gonna read this as he doesn’t visit the forum. So you just wasted your motherfucking time.

 

How come you never post about vinyl anymore?

November 29, 2019
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When I was younger, We used to go out on nights out and end up going to the gay bars, towards the end of the night (because thats where straight girls used to go, to get away from men like us (OR MAYBE IM JUST GAY LOLOLOL)). One night, I walked into the toilets. Through the main door, there were two other doors, one left and one right. I chose the right door and when it opened, I saw 2 men. One was sat on the back of the toilet with his legs over the other guys shoulders, getting fucked. I was 18. I was absolutely mortified. I ended up just leaving the bar and getting in a cab and going straight home, without telling anyone. 

That was the gayest thing id ever seen, until this whole “beef” and how everyone is reacting to it.

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November 29, 2019
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Noawareness said
When I was younger, We used to go out on nights out and end up going to the gay bars, towards the end of the night (because thats where straight girls used to go, to get away from men like us (OR MAYBE IM JUST GAY LOLOLOL)). One night, I walked into the toilets. Through the main door, there were two other doors, one left and one right. I chose the right door and when it opened, I saw 2 men. One was sat on the back of the toilet with his legs over the other guys shoulders, getting fucked. I was 18. I was absolutely mortified. I ended up just leaving the bar and getting in a cab and going straight home, without telling anyone. 

That was the gayest thing id ever seen, until this whole “beef” and how everyone is reacting to it.  

We also used to hit up the gay bars because they were fun and the most club-like atmosphere in the area. And the girls were more relaxed and fun. We had good times until it was bought and torn down to make room for an expansion to my wife’s father’s job. Some kind of underwater pipe factory. 

In reference to the beef, it is overall stupid, agreed. I however have been annoyed by Paul Methic’s attitude for many years prior to these recent shenanigans. This is from meeting him several times in person in addition to internet info. Sometimes people just clash, and certain personalities dont mix. I respect him and enjoy lots of his music. But never meet your heroes, as the saying goes. 

I am just annoyed by those that take one extreme side. Both of these groups of grown ass clowny men are imperfect businessmen. Paul is just the one that I dont vibe with the most. Maybe it’s my own vibe, which knows. I dont really care, I simply can’t sleep right now.

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November 29, 2019
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Pigg said
They have 50% of “Original” members. Blaze wasn’t in the original version of Lotus.

 

Then why did he have a verse on the first full length song of the first version of the first Dark Lotus album with Marz?

And what about wikipedia Dark Lotus page?

Dark Lotus was an American hip hop group based in Detroit, Michigan. Formed in 1998, the group mainly consisted of Insane Clown Posse (Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J), Blaze Ya Dead Homie, and Twiztid (Jamie Madrox and Monoxide Child).

And what about wikipedia Tales from the Lotus Pod album page?

Insane Clown Posse and Twiztid recorded a collaboration called “Echoside” under the name Dark Lotus. The song was released as a single in 1999, with all-black artwork and labels.[2] The song was intended to appear on the Dark Lotus album Tales from the Lotus Pod, but because the album’s production took longer than expected, it was instead released on ICP’s 1999 album The Amazing Jeckel Brothers.[2] Between this time, Blaze Ya Dead Homie joined the group, and Insane Clown Posse toured with the rap metal band Marz, whose leader, also named Marz, was impressed by ICP’s performance style, and was embraced by the Juggalo fanbase

 

That’s your excuse? That Blaze wasn’t on the Echoside song?  Blaze takes precedence over Marz and Blaze was there for the first full album. His presence counts. MNE has 3 out of 5 original members. Not 2 out of 5. Get the fuck out of here. LOL.

November 29, 2019
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Pigg said

Also you sound like a bitch.

 Double also, hop of Chuck’s bearded nuts.

 

Facts about Violent J’s misbehaviour piss you off. I know.

By the way, I will post more about vinyl once Psychopathic Records gets their ass in gear and gets more of the shit on vinyl that they promised would come out in 2019. Maybe if FFF and Flip weren’t such terrible albums musically and production wise, I would have posted more about their vinyl release. Flip is in fact due out today since it’s Black Friday Record Store Day.

November 29, 2019
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Dark Lotus was, in actuality, to be an ICP/Esham project. They even discussed doing Soopa Villainz with Tech N9ne and calling it Planned Panic. No matter how you slice it, Dark Lotus was originally a Violent J concoction. I’m sure he then approached Twiztid and Blaze about it and they collaborated from there. 

It was kind of like one guy said “hey I’ve got this idea for a crazy fresh restaurant called Murder Burger! It’s a carnivore-only joint where no vegetables besides potatoes are allowed! Hey, Eshack, do you want to join me and add your own flavors to my meat?” And Eshack is initially intrigued but then decides that he isn’t fully down with the code of Murder Burger, because as a future Cordon Bleu graduate, he still wants to include some veggies like onions and lettuce. So the guy approaches his other two associates, who have recently began working at his other restaurant, Intense Chicken Place. Those two fellas are on pretty good terms with the guy at this point, and are ready to adhere to the particular rules and practices required of Murder Burger. Murder Burger then becomes a force of four gentlemen: the guy, his brother-from-another-mother Snazzy 3 Piece, and the two employees Jiminy Masterson and Preston Childe, aka Rotundo and Da Surgeon General. The guy is so impressed at the creative offerings and work ethic and overall comfort ability of his new homie’s that he easily agrees when they ask to being in their old school friend, Christoph Roosevelt III, soon to be know as Braise, Ya Bread Slowly. And goddamn, what a crew! The way that they all form a Voltron-esque unit and make waves to push the Noah’s Ark-like barge called Murder Burger into the ocean of American restaurant success stories becomes the stuff of underground legend! They officially open their first Murder Burger in 2001 and form a cultish following. Even folks like myself become a part of this, and even tattoo their restaurant insignia onto their flesh, in that oh so familiar bloody chicken bone Celtic cross on my back. It’s like the Golden Arches of indepedent musi- I mean restaurants. . . Time goes by, and rumors start to emerge of some strife behind the scenes at Murder Burger. Most of it is unfounded rumors passed from word of mouth between customers, but then, unfortunately, the internet becomes a thing. A thing that shows a view inside the greasy cartilage-covered windows of Murder Burger and into the reality of the employee’s egos. Some say that Braise, Ya Bread Slowly was treated unfairly and underpaid…  others murmured about Snazzy 3 Piece getting too into the raspberry vodka + Faygo mixer that they called Danger Juice and him causing an overall chaotic ruckus… but the truth was that the original guy and one of the other main contributors to the success of Murder Burger, Da Surgeon General, had some personality clashes since day 2. I guess they had some pluckin to do, I’m not for sure. But after a decade+ of success, Rotundo, Surgeon and  Braise leave to form their own restaurant, citing things like Murder Burger not promoting their pork chop sandwich enough, and also of personal things, like when the original guy went off his meds and accused Surgeon General of sexy dancing with a girl at their Detroit restaurant rival’s place, Phlegm-N-Em’s (which, as we all know, is a lot more successful in the mainstream restaurant world… the guy even pressured Rotundo and Surgeon General into making a mock radio ditty aimed at Phlegm’s.. I think it was called ‘The Real Fried Anus’)… and ultimately Braise had to leave because Rotundo ghostwrote all of his sauce recipes, anyhow…….. the year is now almost 2020 and fans of both restaurants have become loyal to either one, but some enjoy both and wish the drama would just be over. Personally I love both places, but I only have enjoyed a few recipes from the new place, Majik Nibbler Eatery. It just doesnt taste the same for me, but maybe my tastebuds are biased. What will the future hold? I’m no Wiseman, buy my advice is to eat what you like, dont be afraid to share your opinion, but dont get too caught up in the behind the scenes drama. Ultimately, these people are flawed human beings just like you and I. I think the one employee/business partner who does stuff for both restaurants and himself, Anybutter Grilla, has the right mindset.

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they promoted the fuck out of abominationz 

if I remember correctly the album came with 1 of 10 trading cards, and if you pre-ordered you got a free blacklight poster I got both versions of the album with 2 posters and it came up to under $40 shipped to Canada in Canadian funds.

never has a deal been so good since

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Old Mr Dangerous said
Dark Lotus was, in actuality, to be an ICP/Esham project. They even discussed doing Soopa Villainz with Tech N9ne and calling it Planned Panic. No matter how you slice it, Dark Lotus was originally a Violent J concoction. I’m sure he then approached Twiztid and Blaze about it and they collaborated from there. 

It was kind of like one guy said “hey I’ve got this idea for a crazy fresh restaurant called Murder Burger! It’s a carnivore-only joint where no vegetables besides potatoes are allowed! Hey, Eshack, do you want to join me and add your own flavors to my meat?” And Eshack is initially intrigued but then decides that he isn’t fully down with the code of Murder Burger, because as a future Cordon Bleu graduate, he still wants to include some veggies like onions and lettuce. So the guy approaches his other two associates, who have recently began working at his other restaurant, Intense Chicken Place. Those two fellas are on pretty good terms with the guy at this point, and are ready to adhere to the particular rules and practices required of Murder Burger. Murder Burger then becomes a force of four gentlemen: the guy, his brother-from-another-mother Snazzy 3 Piece, and the two employees Jiminy Masterson and Preston Childe, aka Rotundo and Da Surgeon General. The guy is so impressed at the creative offerings and work ethic and overall comfort ability of his new homie’s that he easily agrees when they ask to being in their old school friend, Christoph Roosevelt III, soon to be know as Braise, Ya Bread Slowly. And goddamn, what a crew! The way that they all form a Voltron-esque unit and make waves to push the Noah’s Ark-like barge called Murder Burger into the ocean of American restaurant success stories becomes the stuff of underground legend! They officially open their first Murder Burger in 2001 and form a cultish following. Even folks like myself become a part of this, and even tattoo their restaurant insignia onto their flesh, in that oh so familiar bloody chicken bone Celtic cross on my back. It’s like the Golden Arches of indepedent musi- I mean restaurants. . . Time goes by, and rumors start to emerge of some strife behind the scenes at Murder Burger. Most of it is unfounded rumors passed from word of mouth between customers, but then, unfortunately, the internet becomes a thing. A thing that shows a view inside the greasy cartilage-covered windows of Murder Burger and into the reality of the employee’s egos. Some say that Braise, Ya Bread Slowly was treated unfairly and underpaid…  others murmured about Snazzy 3 Piece getting too into the raspberry vodka + Faygo mixer that they called Danger Juice and him causing an overall chaotic ruckus… but the truth was that the original guy and one of the other main contributors to the success of Murder Burger, Da Surgeon General, had some personality clashes since day 2. I guess they had some pluckin to do, I’m not for sure. But after a decade+ of success, Rotundo, Surgeon and  Braise leave to form their own restaurant, citing things like Murder Burger not promoting their pork chop sandwich enough, and also of personal things, like when the original guy went off his meds and accused Surgeon General of sexy dancing with a girl at their Detroit restaurant rival’s place, Phlegm-N-Em’s (which, as we all know, is a lot more successful in the mainstream restaurant world… the guy even pressured Rotundo and Surgeon General into making a mock radio ditty aimed at Phlegm’s.. I think it was called ‘The Real Fried Anus’)… and ultimately Braise had to leave because Rotundo ghostwrote all of his sauce recipes, anyhow…….. the year is now almost 2020 and fans of both restaurants have become loyal to either one, but some enjoy both and wish the drama would just be over. Personally I love both places, but I only have enjoyed a few recipes from the new place, Majik Nibbler Eatery. It just doesnt taste the same for me, but maybe my tastebuds are biased. What will the future hold? I’m no Wiseman, buy my advice is to eat what you like, dont be afraid to share your opinion, but dont get too caught up in the behind the scenes drama. Ultimately, these people are flawed human beings just like you and I. I think the one employee/business partner who does stuff for both restaurants and himself, Anybutter Grilla, has the right mindset.  

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vinyllover said
When they left in 2013

Actually they left in 2012.

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vinyllover said

Pigg said

Also you sound like a bitch.

 Double also, hop of Chuck’s bearded nuts.

 

Facts about Violent J’s misbehaviour piss you off. I know.

By the way, I will post more about vinyl once Psychopathic Records gets their ass in gear and gets more of the shit on vinyl that they promised would come out in 2019. Maybe if FFF and Flip weren’t such terrible albums musically and production wise, I would have posted more about their vinyl release. Flip is in fact due out today since it’s Black Friday Record Store Day.  

You care MUCH more about J’s behavior than I do.

I’m not pissed off, I’m annoyed.

Chuck is annoying.

CPN is annoying.

You’re annoying.

Stop posting their stupid bullshit on the forum.

If you want to argue with Mikey, do it on the main page.

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Echo Side was the very first Lotus release… the original members were just ICP and Twiztid. 

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